Ghost Rider 2 to be Scarier

Ghost Rider 2 to be Scarier

Using Goyer's R-rated script to scare the kiddies, although they may go the PG-13 route...

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By teabag - Oct 02, 2009 08:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Ghost Rider
Source: Collider

Collider spoke to David S. Goyer the other day about his new TV show, "FlashForward." He took time to talk about "Ghost Rider 2."

Goyer confirmed that he’ll produce and Nicolas Cage will star in the sequel.

“I’m coming on as a producer, and we’re basically doing a polish of my nine year-old script,” said Goyer, referring to the script he wrote years ago for Stephen Norrington to direct, before Mark Steven Johnson came on board and took the Rider in a quirkier direction.

Goyer’s original script was apparently “definitely written as a hard R. It was a Blade-type film. Now they want it to be PG-13. But... 'The Dark Knight' has come out and I like to say that it was skirting the bleeding edge of PG-13, so people’s concepts of what a PG-13 movie could be [may have changed].”



Goyer's original script for "Ghost Rider" things seem to get very weird very quickly with the demon Zarathos running around and causing havoc in the swampy locales of Louisiana.

With "Blade" and "Batman Begins" under his belt, let's hope this is not another "Trinity."

Teabag out
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prototype87
prototype87 - 10/2/2009, 9:23 AM
lol funny pic! heh heh :D
@BmanHall & teabag@ but yeah i agree with you guys.
Shaman
Shaman - 10/2/2009, 9:46 AM
I'm all up for Goyer writing Ghost Rider 2 as long as he hands it to someone else to re-write it uh... i mean "polish" it.
InFamouslyCool
InFamouslyCool - 10/2/2009, 9:48 AM
..ahahaha. i love deadpool.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 10/2/2009, 9:51 AM
SO ZARATHOS WILL BE JOHNNY BLAZES ALTER EGO? OR SEPERATE?, I HAD A IDEA A WHILE BACK..WHAT IF MEPHISTO CAPTURED ZARATHOS'S POWER IN A CRYSTAL AND ONCE IN A WHILE MEPHISTO WOULD ENDOW SOME OF ITS POWER INTO A MORTAL, YET EVERYTIME THE CONTRACT ENDED HE WOULD TAKE IT BACK, FOR FEAR THAT IF TOO MUCH OF ZARATHOS'S POWER WAS FREE IT WOULD ALLOW HIM TO GET OUT, NOW THAT JOHNNY DOESNT WANT TO GIVE IT BACK, MEPHISTO GOES TO DRASTIC EXTREMES AND ENDOWS ANOTHER, BADALINO WITH SOME OF ZARATHOS'S POWER SENDING "VENGENCE" TO TAKE BACK THE POWER BY FORCE.BUT BECAUSE TOO MUCH OF ZARATHOSES POWER WAS OUT ..THE TRUE ZARATHOS GAINED ENTRY INTO OUR WORLD..
DDD
DDD - 10/2/2009, 9:54 AM
Pretty good idea Gun@!
DDD
DDD - 10/2/2009, 9:55 AM
All I know is I wanna ride that real bike they made for GR in the movie! That thing was plain badass!

I mean the one for GR not Johnny Blaze but Blazes bike was really badazz too!
Deathlok
Deathlok - 10/2/2009, 9:57 AM
I agree with BmanHall's first comment. I was really disappointed that we didn't see the true versions of Blackheart and Mephisto. Hopefully Zarathos will bring some more interesting supernatural elements to the table.
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 10/2/2009, 9:59 AM
ahhh a "quirkier" direction..Is that what Johnson did?

A slippery euphamism at the very best lol

good article and pic Tbag

Scarier is all well and good but well... how about just BETTER? Could we maybe try that too?
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 10/2/2009, 10:03 AM
The first one had some decent bits. But it was very meh.
DDD
DDD - 10/2/2009, 10:07 AM
No campy stuff this time! GR should be deadly serious!

I don't know why Goyer wrote camp in there. He usually is a pretty witty writer but that GR script was a real clunker but I liked the movie in spite of it!
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 10/2/2009, 10:10 AM
@ Multi aww damn your right, that was way off the radar. What was I thinking??

This sounded like good news so I got a little carried away I guess. I'll adjust to the far more realistic expectation of *not worse* lol
DDD
DDD - 10/2/2009, 10:16 AM
I kinda like lower-expectation trashy kinda girls...as long as they ain't TOTAL baggers! :D
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 10/2/2009, 10:21 AM
I loved the look and I loved the bike. And I think they represented his powers pretty ok.

And I have said this before... complain about Cage all you want but I really felt like the writer and director or whatever tried to suffuse the characters with a humanness (is that a word?) that is often all too absent from these movies. The Carpenters??? M&Ms from a coctail glass? Eva Mendes asking a dumbwaiter if she was pretty or not???? Making these characters seem more human is actually a big step for this director that I think many fail to see.
Like it or hate it, someone at least gave that stuff some thought.
Shaman
Shaman - 10/2/2009, 10:26 AM
Darth- IT WAS JELLY BEANS!!!!! Off with this infidel's head!!!
Shaman
Shaman - 10/2/2009, 10:28 AM
I mean, the movie would have been much better if they were M&Ms. Who the [frick] eats jelly beans to begin with let alone from a martini glass!!! Plus he had really crappy flavors in it judging from the colors.
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 10/2/2009, 10:30 AM
I just caught Ghost Rider on tv the other night. Maybe it was because of the myriad bad reviews I had heard, but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be. Having said that...it wasn't a great show. I hate, let me repeat that...HATE Nicolas Cage. He's had two good roles in his career: H.I. McDonough in Raising Arizona and Castor Troy in Face/Off.

This is one of those films that just NEEDS to be rated R! I'm glad they are not re-booting though. I hope they can salvage the character.
Shaman
Shaman - 10/2/2009, 10:34 AM
I prefered him in Con-Air than in Face-Off. And i hate Cage too but he was decent in City of Angels. But i think his best performance was in Family Man. Great chemestry between him and Tea Leoni.
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 10/2/2009, 10:46 AM
lol @ Shaman! my bad jelly beans then. But even if it had been M&M's or even REECES PIECES, the villians still would have stank. I only saw the thing one time

I think this director tends to blow his load (so to speak) on veneer.
He spends all his energy on making it look good and strong action sequences and leaves nothing else for other parts.
Talontd
Talontd - 10/2/2009, 11:17 AM
Am I the only one that thought the SKULL WAS TOO SMALL???


SHAMAN-

YEA!! Something we agree on!! I think Cage is mostly crap as well, but I too liked Con-Air, Face-Off, City of Angels, and Family Man.

Everything else.......crap!
Shaman
Shaman - 10/2/2009, 11:22 AM
Darth- Dammit, REECES PIECES are awesome! That should have been mine!!!

MultiPurposePoni- Liked it as in didn't mind it. I felt he had a better performance in it than Face-Off. Travolta was better in Face Off than Cage. And yes, Family Man is the best Cage film ever! Can't believe Ratner directed it.

Talontd- Those are definitely his best films ;)
Shaman
Shaman - 10/2/2009, 11:53 AM
I did not see that yet, i just might check it out! And YES, the man needs to stick to drama!!!
BillyBlack
BillyBlack - 10/2/2009, 12:21 PM
teabag

I think it was watching Joquin Pheonix get stabbed to dead that made 8mm a decent flick.

Ror01

If memory serves (which it usually doesnt) didn;t you and a friend heckle the shit outta this one at the theater?

Best Cage performance... Trapped in Paradise with John Lovitz. Fkn funny! Raising AZ was the shit too. He should stick to the comedies.
Shaman
Shaman - 10/2/2009, 12:26 PM
Tea- It was the porn.

Billy- Wasn't that fond of Trapped, actually. I remember it letting me down. I think i had sky high hopes about it. And Raising AZ wasn't my cup o' tea ;) But yes, he was decent in both.
slimybug
slimybug - 10/2/2009, 12:36 PM
Ghost Rider may have sucked, but with Goyer writing it, and going for a darker tone, this might be pretty good!
shibazz
shibazz - 10/2/2009, 12:48 PM
Part one was horrible but still not as bad as Origins was. At least they had Ghost Rider looking like Ghost rider, every one else was just freakin sad and pathetic. My most hated scene is any time the elemental s are on screen and especially when Blackheart first makes his appearance and is far away and then "Oh No" he is up close and his teeth are showing and his head is tilted like Stewies from family guy and he screams. That was a joke! Horrible movie, and yet still better than Whackerine:Origins which was god awful. I mean not once was someone in their true comic form. pity really
thegreek
thegreek - 10/2/2009, 1:00 PM
Well atelast they are making a continuation... I liked the first one...

By the way where is any news on hopefully a CONSTANTINE 2
Shaman
Shaman - 10/2/2009, 1:04 PM
Multi- Yeah, i can see why you and a bunch of people liked it so much.
BillyBlack
BillyBlack - 10/2/2009, 1:12 PM
Shaman

Trapped was a fun flick, nothing special but good if you catch it on cable. Can't imagine having very high expectations for it ^_^ but I found Cage to be a character to pull for. Something very rare for me in ANY of his movies.

Poni

A great performance, but a total fkn downer. Liz Shue made that movie for me right down to the rape. Hey, can you rape a prostitute? Or is it more like shop lifting?
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