LANTERN THEORY: Plotting Hal Jordan's Course Through The DC Extended Universe

LANTERN THEORY: Plotting Hal Jordan's Course Through The DC Extended Universe

We've heard a lot of conflicting reports regarding the Emerald Knights' return to the big screen, so here's my attempt at making sense of it all in chronological order. Due to the 100% speculative nature of this editorial, I'm inclined to warn you potential spoilers may (potentially) lie ahead. Come check it out!

Editorial Opinion
By TucksFrom2015 - Jul 27, 2015 06:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Green Lantern
ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL: In the Man of Steel universe there exists an intergalactic military unit, a spacefarring police force dedicated to the protection of all sentient life while promoting order and democracy throughout the cosmos. On the Planet Oa situated at the center of the universe lives a race of highly intelligent beings, Guardian Elite Oans who had taken it upon themselves to combat evil throughout all regions of space, no matter how desolate, as the self-appointed Guardians Of The Universe. After the failure to launch their legion of robotic sentinels called Manhunters, the Guardian Elites decided that their newest force would consist of living beings, ones who had free will and strong moral character. To arm this new legion of Celestial Knights, the Guardians forged the Power Rings, tools of inconceivably-advanced technology that allow their wearers to project hard-light energy constructs which replicate the physical and mechanical characteristics of whatever object the ring bearer imagines. Eons ago, the Oans harnessed the most powerful force in existence, Emerald Energy and contained it within pieces of jewellry worn around the finger, they divided the universe into 3,600 sectors and sent a power ring to each sector to select a recruit.
CHRISTINA WREN is CAROL FERRIS: The first Green Lantern seeds may have been planted as early as Man of Steel with the doe-eyed side character Captain Carrie Farris, described only as an air force officer and assistant to General Swanwick. Odds are she's exactly who everyone thinks she is - Carol Ferris, and her family owns the Farris Aircraft, Inc. one of the leading aviation companies in the world specializing in advanced aerospace concepts - how else does a pretty thing like her ascend to the rank of captain? Nepotism isn't a surprising feature coming from a Zack Snyder joint, and aside from not knowing what 'terraforming' means, her character's lack of personality traits made Carol's true identity difficult to pin down at first. But both Captain Farris and General Swanwick were added to the cast of it's universe-building sequel Batman v Superman, and with a cast that's that crowded, the roles they'll play aren't likely to be extraneous or pointless. Last we saw of them, one of their predator drones was knocked out of the sky right in front of Swanwick's car, the General had apparently programmed these UAV's to track down Superman's whereabouts, and with Swanwick and Farris confirmed to appear in the sequel, chances are that scene is gonna have a more satisfying payoff than "I just think he's kinda hot" and *eyeroll.*
DAN AMBOYER is HAL JORDAN: What do you make of this? A stage actor from Detroit joined the cast of BvS as a 'Drone Pilot' late last year, he uploaded an on-set photo of himself wearing a brown pilot's jacket, his normally blonde hair dyed a whole shade darker, stylishly quiffed into a leading man's supercut - that sounds a lot like Hal Jordan to me. Of course WB won't acknowledge this as a possibility or give it any authenticity so far from a release date - BUT - if he isn't the new Hal Jordan, then that means WB cast a classically trained actor in a minor role, which required that he dye his hair brown and lift weights every week to get into shape for all of that 'piloting a drone' stuff in one of the biggest movies of 2016, a movie whose subtitle literally translates to "An Origin of the Justice League." Seems like an odd series of coincidences, donch'a think? The solo Lantern film set the bar so low that any range of actor could replace Reynolds in the mantle, even an American theatre actor, so it makes plenty of sense that Snyder would begin his search for 'Hal Jordan 2.0' in the local talent of Detroit's theatre company - similar to what they'd done by casting a complete unknown as Cyborg. Dan Amboyer's role as 'Drone Pilot' would likely place his character in the same profession as Harry Lennix and Christina Wren's characters anyway, so having them around in the sequel is the best way to introduce one of the seven characters needed for future Justice-based crossover events.
'SUPERMAN-PROOF' PREDATOR DRONES: Amboyer's character is brought in as a USNC engineer who programs and pilots the newest model of drones, the movie lends a few moments of screentime to establish his on-off relationship with Carrie Farris, later this would-be Emerald Knight plays a key role in tracking the Doomsday's path of destruction across the planet. This scenario would really make it feel like everyone in the Justice League is doing their part to battle the beast, and given that Doomsday is basically a genetically-mutated Kryptonian, the new drones Hal engineered should handle their own against him. Again, these are all hypotheticals of my own design.
BvS PRE-CREDITS SCENE: You couldn't pay me to venture a guess at how Batman v Superman ends, and even if I did know I'd rather have every surprise left intact, but I feel compelled to offer up one possible explanation as to how far the Dawn of Justice subtitle goes to set up the next crossover event. Right when Batman v Superman is ending, closing out all it's tabs and resolving character arcs, Abin Sur's spacepod crashlands on the outskirts of Coast City, California and the one person there to witness Abin Sur's arrival and subsequent crashlanding on Earth (which could be the direct result of Doomsday) is the drone pilot Hal Jordan. The camera pans over to capture his reaction as he looks upon the wreckage and run towards it, and then the film cuts away to something else, and what's great about setting up Green Lantern with such brevity is that most people are smart enough to figure it out, today's audiences can be trusted to know exactly what this scene signifies.
CHRIS PINE is STEVE TREVOR: Here's what happens when rumors fly in the face of reports, Variety first claimed that the Z For Zacharia actor was being courted to star as the male lead in Wonder Woman (the DC movie that's closest to beginning production), a role that had been turned down by Clint Eastwood's son. But despite being the film slated with the furthest away release date, supposed Green Lantern reboot "plot details" kept resurfacing amidst the build-up to San Diego Comic-Con, claiming Chris Pine's discussions were all a ruse and he's actually our new Hal Jordan. What these reports amounted to, however, were safe-inside-the-realm-of-possibility conversation starters for the geek masses to feast on, and nothing that ever came to light at any of the DC panels, as Latino-Review's Da7e Gonzales claimed they would. Da7e's weekly rumor round-up sourced the Pine/Jordan rumor, and now it appears that it was just that, a collection of emerging theories that discredited Variety's report, and a few SDCC casting announcement predictions that ultimately didn't come true. However, Chris Pine's been a name associated with Lanternship since 2010, (although his Wikipedia page cites two fake sources for where the implacable casting rumor began) and it's not too difficult to imagine the face of Star Trek stepping just a few inches outside of his 'Captain Kirk' comfort zone to play another space cop. But last spring, Variety's sources said WB was looking for high-profile actors they could get for Steve Trevor, and ultimately gave Chris Pine a straight offer. Sure if he was given the choice between a role in the 2017 Justice League film or the 2017 Wonder Woman film, obviously a guy who can summon weapons out of thin air looks to be the more enticing offer, but the way Pine's career is headed he might just summon a bunch of scheduling conflicts out of thin air, while an underworked thespian like Dan Amboyer has more flexibility, and can work around Zack Snyder's rigorous shoots & reshoots. CONFIRMED: 13 hours after this was written.
THE 'PART ONE' VILLAINS ARE SUICIDE SQUAD? Last February David Ayer tweeted out a photo of comic books stacked on his desk, and at the top of the deck was an issue titled Justice League vs. Suicide Squad - the slightest suggestion of such an event happening in the cinemas sent shockwaves throughout our collectively blown minds. So what if instead of an alien army or a singular 'Big Bad' threatening the entire world, what if The Joker, Harley, Deadshot and the rest of Suicide Squad returns to the big screen as soon as 2017, except not as a G.I. black ops team, but as the antagonists of Justice League Part 1. When taken at face value, DC's upcoming slate doesn't have any other available slots for a Squad sequel, although there's supposed to be a Batman film somewhere down the line, even that won't swing around until much later on. So this theory hinges on how open-ended Squad's cliffhanger ending ends up being, and if Task Force X ultimately escapes from government custody under command of Joker and Harley, then what are the odds they'll be wreaking havoc on the streets of Gotham City to coincide with the formation of the Justice League? I'd say it's entirely possible, as all other alternatives point towards an invading alien army uniting the heroes as they effortlessly tear through thousands of faceless, emotionless drones. You know, that was still a cutting-edge concept when The Avengers assembled that first time, but the novelty factor wears off quickly when a rival company attempts the same song & dance in an effort to adapt the New-52 JLA origin. So it's obvious that WarnerBros. needs to try something a little different than what Disney/Marvel's done so well so far if they're looking to succeed on the originality front, and a 'battle royale' featuring all of their best characters just seems like the smartest direction to go in because it provokes such an interesting moral debate.
Part One being a cross-pollenation between Ayer's Suicide Squad cast and Snyder's Batman v Superman cast would mean Amanda Waller's metahuman squad - Jared Leto's Joker, Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn, Jai Courtney's Captain Boomerang, Will Smith's Deadshot, Cara Delavigne's Enchantress, etc. - are pitted against Batman's 'Super Seven' - that includes Hank Cavill's Superman, Ray Fishers Cyborg, Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman, Jason Momoa's Aquaman, and presumably Dan Amboyer's Hal Jordan, all of whom will have already been introduced beforehand, which means the only new character they'd need to introduce audiences to is Ezra Miller's version of The Flash. Theoretically, this movie would showcase a 'Year One' Lantern, a Hal who's been to Oa and back and trained under the Oan masters, but like most Power Ring recipients he's been afforded some downtime back on his homerock. Of course, having traveled throughout the galaxy's farthest reaches would put Hal at odds with the rest of the group, Superman would undoubtedly have some unanswered questions about the universe, and about Krypton, and Hal's basically wearing a universal database around his finger. So there could be a scene at the end akin to Tony Stark and Bruce Banner leaving in the same car, where Clark and Hal head off into space, and off-screen they discover something that would coincide with what many believe to be the antagonist of Part Two...
BRAINIAC AS THE 'PART TWO' VILLAIN? One of Superman's gravest threats, the alien genius Brainiac has faced the League on several occasions, on Earth he's feared for his 12th-level intelligence and extreme Machiavellian ethics, but as a citizen of the Planet Colu he was known as Vril Dox. Coluans were pioneers of interstellar travel and have exceptionally long lifespans lasting for centuries, due in part to their advancements in genetic manipulation. Its populace hungered for more knowledge as they engineered cures for most diseases and medical afflictions, and the coalescence of organics and technology became commonplace, on our planet this is called trans-humanism. The Coluan race sought to leave their organic bodies to reside in immortal cybernetic forms, nanotech robotics would replace their planetary security forces, and so a combination of immortality and non-existent crime rates caused an overpopulation crisis - their solution?
Miniaturisation, the ruling class took control of Colu's infrastructure and shrunk down their greatest cities, but this caused a schism between rural folk and urban residents as Colu's global intelligence stagnated over a period of a thousand years. Corresponding with the dawn of Man, a brilliant, but fully biological Coluan scientist named Vril began cloning himself to create a hive-minded, genetically-singular community consisting only of himself so that his supreme intelligence would never die out. He acquired a spaceship and went on a journey throughout deep space, obtaining knowledge and using a nanotechnological cyber-cloud to capture living organisms of various alien species. It was through this solitary campaign that he became known as the Collector of Worlds, an archivist of destroyed planets, some of which he himself had a personal hand in destroying.
THE DESTRUCTION OF COAST CITY: An event that occured in the early 1990s during the fallout of the Death of Superman and Reign of the Supermen! storyarcs, where Hank Henshaw (Cyborg Superman) and Mongul conspired to turn Earth into the new Warworld, so they detonated thousands of bombs above Hal Jordan's homecity killing nearly all of it's seven million+ inhabitants - including most of Jordan's family. This was not a good time for Hal, he'd been off-world at the time and when he found out secondhand what had happened, the insurmountable grief over losing his girlfriend drastically altered who he was as a person. So if Justice League Part Two means to up the stakes with an alien invasion heralded by Brainiac, and deliver on a promise like the one Marvel Studios made with Age of Ultron "bringing the Avengers to their knees," then the most logical demonstration of 'sequel villain badassery' would be to level an entire city. Explosives aren't exactly Brainiac's style per se, so miniaturising 20 square blocks of a downtown area for safekeepaing inside a plexiglass jar on his shelf would just as easily do the trick, as he'd famously done the same to Krypton's bottled city of Kandor. Restoring such a large chunk of land back to it's original size seems virtually irreversible, so if Hal Jordan's loved one are truly gone forever - then a loose adaptation of the Emerald Twilight storyline might follow the 2019 film as part of the DCCU's ongoing storyline...
THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS (2020): Hal Jordan pleads with the Oan High Council to let him rebuild Coast City, but the Guardians of the Galax--er, I'm I mean Universe--continually reject Hal's proposal and admonish him for even trying, as doing so might drain the full power of Oa's Central Battery. Enraged at the Guardians' ungrateful and callous behavior, Jordan turns to the dark side and starts murdering Lanterns left & right, and shatters the Emerald Energy source. Unbeknownst to anyone that he'd been infected by the alien parasite known as Parallax, Hal Jordan grows immeasurably in strength by collecting the fallen Lantern's Power Rings. Being the super-intelligent pieces of hardware they are, the Oan jewels flee to the nearest quadrant to select the most capable recruits to thwart Parallax, but only four can escape the renegade Lantern's clutches. The remaining rings strategically choose to induct a league of Earthmen: Simon Baz, an Arab-American street racer from Dearborn, Kyle Rayner, a freelance graphic artist from Hollywood, John Stewart, an architect and former U.S. marine from Detroit, and Guy Gardner, a volatile police officer from Baltimore. Four individual's predicaments play out separately in vignette fashion before their paths can intersect on wartorn Oa, Jordan's former companions, Kilowog of planet Bolovax VIk, Tomar-Re of planet Xudar, and Katma Tui of planet Korugar, team up with the humans to put an end to Parallax's reign.
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FlyntCoal
FlyntCoal - 7/27/2015, 7:39 PM
Great work man. Still want Pine as Hal.
misterbatman212
misterbatman212 - 7/27/2015, 7:48 PM
anboyer is not hal jordan. chirs pine is
TucksFrom2015
TucksFrom2015 - 7/27/2015, 7:56 PM
@misterbatman212 -

misterbatman212
misterbatman212 - 7/27/2015, 8:09 PM
@TucksDeluxe

fake!!!
TucksFrom2015
TucksFrom2015 - 7/27/2015, 8:10 PM
@misterbatman - I dunno, seems pretty cut and dry to me

nrocket3
nrocket3 - 7/27/2015, 8:12 PM
NELLOGISTICS
NELLOGISTICS - 7/27/2015, 8:25 PM
Beautifully, uh, engrossing? I'm in no attempt to surpass your awe-inspiring piece, but you're sagacious enough.

This DC COMICS's- *whispers* extended Universe is apparent in its tip-toeing through the inception and is toying with an already laid establishment. The seventh member shouldn't even be a Lantern, could've took the risk and opt on Martian Manhunter. Yeah, that's right fook you Goyer. Sorry, but including J'onzz you can play with distinct parallels and contrastive dynamic and really emphasize a clash of perspective. Not to mention the early history and radical technology.

JL vs. SS is smart.. Very smart. But the time Part Two comes along the scope has to become just as ambitious. Vril Dox is cool. Just on how willing they are to introduce unprecedented and wicked concepts, the multiverse could be explored. Different earths? Could even continue into a loose Infinite Crisis adaptation. Point stands, go bigger! It's ideal to not introduce Jordan. Stewart, Rayner, maybe even Gardner or Baz are better options. This might be controversial, but Hal Jordan should already be dead in this universe. Or DCYou fused, excommunicated renegade? By time GLC rolls along you could make an awesome Rebirth story. Just as the story is intended for the comics, all of Green Lantern's '11 failures are redeemable. Especially, its main protagonist. While they might want someone brash and every bit of your archetypal hero, to explore the more megalomaniacal deranged side is ultimately much more interesting. And in a broad sense, you're right. Mongol can be introduced, we could finally delve deep into the Corps and pave the way into Sinestro Corps War and everyone's dream blockbuster- Blackest Night.

Thumbs up brother!

CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 7/27/2015, 9:37 PM
Awesome article, great ideas on how this could all come together. JL vs. supervillains could be cool. Maybe Luthor could reorganize the Suicide Squad into the Legion of Doom or something.

There’s so much potential here for this “DCEU” thing, that I really hope they don’t [frick] it up. I’m sure WB are being more cautious after the disaster that was Martin Campbell’s GL, but still.
CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 7/27/2015, 9:40 PM
But nooo to Dan Amboyer as Hal Jordan. I hoped that would have been all but disproven by now, especially since a drone pilot and a fighter pilot are two very different things. Hal is a fighter pilot, he loves the thrill of knowing he could die at any moment. Drones are piloted from behind a computer monitor.
NightBoyWonder
NightBoyWonder - 7/27/2015, 10:21 PM
I really hope JL Part 1 is JL vs SS.
MindQuad
MindQuad - 7/27/2015, 10:23 PM
Chris Pine or Bradley Cooper needs to be Hal Jordan. Anyone else will be a miscast. Just like Aquaman, Barry Allen, and Wonder Woman are.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 7/27/2015, 10:38 PM
I believe Dan is GL based on your idea that he is a classically trained actor, BUT, he can be lifting weights for his own good, he posted that photo in January, a month after BvS was done filming.

Now, the drone pilot thing is intriguing...

Butttt, there's no other evidence given atm.
AbhiShake
AbhiShake - 7/27/2015, 10:45 PM
Amboyer has the face for Hal, but Pine has charm and personality for Hal.
Good theories though.
BirchySteve
BirchySteve - 7/27/2015, 10:53 PM
Fair play you've put some thought into all that! I was on board with virtually all of it until you went down the Emerald Twilight route. There is no way they will do that with Hal. The Green Lantern Corps flick will either be setting up Sinestro as a villain or going full on into the Sinestro Corps War for me. But DC have spent last eight years or so trying to forget twilight ever happened so it's highly unlikely they will put it on film.
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 7/27/2015, 11:06 PM
@MindQuad, how can you say that those characters have been miscast, when the movie is still almost a year out and we haven’t seen the actors’ work yet (all of which have a history of some really great work themselves)?
I’ve heard similar complaints off and on: Ben Affleck as Batman, Jared Leto as the Joker, Will Smith as Deadshot, Jai Courtney as Captain Boomerang, Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor, Oscar Isaac as Apocalypse, Miles Teller as Mr. Fantastic, Kate Mara as The Invisible Woman, Michael B. Jordan as The Human Torch….all of which we have yet to see their talent put to new tests in these roles.
History repeats itself, as people will always prematurely voice their opinions: Michael Keaton as Batman, Christian Bale as Batman, Heath Ledger as The Joker, Chris Evans as Captain America (“he’s already played the Human Torch”….who the **ck cares?!!), Daniel Craig as James Bond (“James Blonde”), Paul Bettany as Vision (“he’s already been JARVIS….they can’t make JARVIS into Vision!”), Robert Downey Jr. as Sherlock Holmes, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine (“he’s too tall”), and so on and so on and so on.
We might as well hold our judgements for when after we have seen their hard work, because honestly they are all talented actors, and the historical hindsight I just stated – I am a fan of each of their depictions of said character.
It’s like people who claim to hate sushi…and yet have never had it.
It’s just ignorant to say something you have no basis for.
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 7/27/2015, 11:11 PM
@CombatWombat, ‘drone pilot’ can easily be smokescreen to cover up the real position! Perhaps it’s meant to be a big reveal in the movie, and they simply changed ‘fighter pilot’ to ‘drone pilot’ to confuse the fanboys….
The two aren’t so dissimilar and could easily be the he does both. Or starts off as a ‘drone pilot’. It’s not too far-fetched.
Zack Snyder’s history shows that he is very good as casting actors for the characters in his films, and I happen to support and trust his choice of actors for this as well.
TheBritAvenger
TheBritAvenger - 7/27/2015, 11:26 PM
Really good work @TucksDeluxe! Can't understand how you can make these at such high quality at the pace you do.

Also, when's that Fantastic Four fan-fic of yours coming out! I want to read that dammit!
MindQuad
MindQuad - 7/27/2015, 11:47 PM
@burningblue52

I didn't make it very far into your ramblings before I started skimming. Although, I did read enough to see you don't understand how I could believe what I wrote... Well, it's simple really, the actors were cast not because they in any way resemble the characters as they appear in the comics or for their ability to bring them to life, but for political reasons (i.e. their ethnicity). I don't need to see the film to know they were a miscast, like Fant4stic. When the main priority of film makers is political correctness or a personal desire to tell their own story and not faithfully adapting the material and characters the films suffer. Oh, and Joker and Harley look like trailer trash that belong at an I.C.P. concert.

You're inane list of past casting decisions is irrelevant. lol

The only people I've met that don't mind these changes are people that don't read comics. I imagine your first experience with comics was watching the X-men film. No body that has spent any significant amount of time reading comics and getting to know these characters (and spending countless amounts of money for the privilege) likes changes. Like what happened to Deadpool at the end of Wolverine Origins (I'm sure you were attacking people that complained about that one too), Mandarin in Iron Man 3, Hank Pym (Janet, Ultron, and YellowJacket) in the MCU, Khal Drago as Aquaman, etc... You're obviously just a mindless fanboy who will defend any decisions these studios make and fight tooth and nail with anyone who disagrees. If you actually started reading comics and got to know these characters and their stories you wouldn't be so eager and willing to have them shit all over. But that probably won't happen. It's much easier to just call people ignorant. lol
Greengo
Greengo - 7/28/2015, 12:02 AM
Bravo!
FrozenDiamondz
FrozenDiamondz - 7/28/2015, 12:05 AM
@Barchiel

Exactly. Shit would be lame af

So many villains to choose from. Despero, Darkseid, Starro etc..
BlackIceJoe
BlackIceJoe - 7/28/2015, 12:11 AM
I personally think Christina Wren will be the sister of Carol Ferris instead. The reason why is because her name is Carrie instead of Carol.

It will be great if Guy, John, Kyle & Simon will be in the movie too. So I hope that happens.
TheEpicJuicebox
TheEpicJuicebox - 7/28/2015, 12:12 AM
Wait so if Chris Pine is indeed Steve Trevor then who is Scott Eastwood playing? Deathstroke confirmed???
staypuffed
staypuffed - 7/28/2015, 12:15 AM
You had me up until your Justice League: Part One pitch. Everything before that sounded great.
WarnerBrother
WarnerBrother - 7/28/2015, 12:30 AM
Not buying the "Carrie Farris is Carol Ferris" theory at all.

A Captain in the Air Force (and the Army and Marines for that matter) is a junior officer rank
that a typical officer should rise to during their first five years after college.There is no need
for nepotism to factor into such a junior rank and I hate to bust your bubble,but many "petty
things" make it to Captain in the Air Force.

The Air Force has the highest percentage of officers per enlisted man of all the American Armed Forces
and unlike the Army or Marines they don't have a Infantry community to lead,so most of them that
don't fly planes or helicopters are going to be in administration which is just what "Farris" is,since she's
an aid to not just a full General,but the head of Northern Command.

Its the rank of Major that is the gateway to being a career officer and the first real step on the road
to General.

"Carol Ferris" is not just a gofer for a General,she is the day to day,head of an aerospace company
with major defense contracts and thousands of employees.She also is a take charge pilot and too
career focused to get all goo goo eyed at Superman like "Farris" did.


To make "Carrie Farris" the "Carol Ferris" of the DCEU would be an insult and actually have people
looking back on the 2011 Green Lantern for it's accurate depiction of the character.

No,Farris is returning in BVS because General Swanwick is and that's likely in the same role they had in
MOS,that being standing in a command post watching destruction.

nikgrid
nikgrid - 7/28/2015, 1:07 AM
@TucksDeluxe
That would have been great reading but I saw this...

CHRISTINA WREN is CAROL FERRIS: The first Green Lantern seeds may have been planted as early as Man of Steel with the doe-eyed side character Captain Carrie Farris, described only as an air force officer and assistant to General Swanwick. Odds are she's exactly who everyone thinks she is - Carol Ferris, and her family owns the Farris Aircraft, Inc.

She is not Carol Ferris. Carrie is not Carol and Farris is not Ferris, just like Bryce is not Bruce and Dayne is not Wayne.

I seen this rumour when MOS came out and SMH, fanboys wanting it does not make it true....she could be named after the writers cousin and a girl he went out with. Other than that. nice theory.
WarnerBrother
WarnerBrother - 7/28/2015, 1:21 AM
@MindQuad

Comic book movie casting decisions are made based on what a director feels is best
for telling a story in his adaptation and the studios sign off on them because they think
those choices will make money.

If its all "Political Correctness" to change characters just to further some social justice agenda
or appease minority groups,why not change somebody people will take notice of right away
like Spider-Man,Captain America,Ironman,Batman,Superman or Wonder Woman?

We are getting such a radical change in the F.F. because the original concept doesn't
work anymore.

Marvel started this on the publishing side with the ULTIMATES line that ironically,is a much bigger
influence on the MCU then anything Stan Lee and Jack Kirby did in the 60's.

FOX just followed the MCU route of adapting a more recent source for it's Marvel material
with the lone departure being the changing of Johnny Storm's race which at the end of the day
is the real point of contention for those who object to the new F.F. film.

I read my first DC comic in 1973 and my first Marvel Comic in 1974.

I also was a huge fan of the Fantastic Four in the early 80's under John Bryne
so I have read my share of comics over the years.

The sad fact is Marvel on the publishing side and FOX on the film side don't believe that
the all american (all white) first family of superheroes concept from 1961 is viable in today's
pop culture landscape,hence,the "UlTIMATE F.F." influence on the new film version.

Now we could argue all day about the execution of the Tim Story films and various comic
writers over the years,but what can't be debated is the Fantastic Four peaked in the late 60's
when it was the flagship title for Marvel.Was revived in the 80's to remain relevant in the age
of the X-Men and Spider-Man.And has been on a steady decline every since.

If the original concept still worked,Marvel would still publish it and FOX would make movies
based on it.

That's not to force an agenda on anybody.its a response to the box office performance
of the original F.F. films and the decreasing popularity of the F.F. in general.

When original concepts don't work,a film studio that owns the film rights to a property
is under no obligation to follow such concepts to the letter to appease a hard core fan base.




TheBritAvenger
TheBritAvenger - 7/28/2015, 1:25 AM
Not sure about Jl vs SS. That's a curb-stomp battle if I ever heard one. The only Squaddies who could put up a fight are Enchantress and El Diablo possibly.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 7/28/2015, 1:31 AM
@ TheEpicJuiceBox- I still think Eastwood is Deathstroke. I don't care if he had a "Steve Trevor" name tag on, I still think he's Deathstroke.
SimplyAz
SimplyAz - 7/28/2015, 3:25 AM
Some interesting ideas, the article was a great read.
I would love to see Simon Baz on screen and finally see a Middle Eastern character be a good guy.

I would pick Garen Boyajian to play him



or

maybe Jesse Williams

kong
kong - 7/28/2015, 5:26 AM
Nice article once again, but the GL movie is a little too close to home, as in earth, and I'd rather see them introduce a new corps.

TheAcuario
TheAcuario - 7/28/2015, 10:07 AM
awesome job!!! I personally would like Chris as the new Hal
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