GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 Director Explains Cosmo Gender Swap And When High Evolutionary Visited Earth

GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 Director Explains Cosmo Gender Swap And When High Evolutionary Visited Earth

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 director James Gunn has addressed his decision to make Cosmo a "good girl" rather than a "good boy," while also explaining when exactly The High Evolutionary visited Earth.

By JoshWilding - May 16, 2023 06:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Vol. 3

In Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, we paid a visit to Counter-Earth, a world created by The High Evolutionary as his utopia. The movie made it clear the villain had taken many animals from Earth to experiment on, including the raccoon that would eventually become Rocket. 

However, The High Evolutionary's visit to our planet was mentioned only briefly when Star-Lord confronted him. Now, filmmaker James Gunn has clarified when exactly he travelled to the world which would eventually inspire Counter-Earth.

"[He] visited Earth in the ['80s], so it’s based on his loose memories of that," the writer and director told a fan on Twitter. That would explain its oddly retro appearance, though this is still quite a departure from the comic books. 

In those, The High Evolutionary actually originates from Earth, whereas the MCU's take is a humanoid alien who simply visited the planet for research purposes. Having learned this information, though, we can't help but wonder what else the villain might have done during his travels.

In other Vol. 3 news, Gunn also justified his decision to gender-swap Cosmo. 

Yes, the fact a Russian, telekinetic space dog is a "good girl" rather than a "good boy" has upset some fans for whatever reason, but as you can see below, we'd say Gunn makes a compelling argument about a) why it doesn't matter and b) why it worked better for the character's live-action portrayal. 

Cosmo debuted in 2014's Guardians of the Galaxy but didn't get a speaking role until The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special, with Maria Bakalova lending her voice to the beloved hero.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 is now playing in theaters. 

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Vigor
Vigor - 5/16/2023, 6:38 AM
" Why does it upset you so much?"

They can never answer this question
bobevanz
bobevanz - 5/16/2023, 6:56 AM
@Vigor - for some reason, they can't move on with their day, before telling someone who much it bothers them. Nobody loved them haha
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/16/2023, 7:37 AM
@Vigor - It all goes back to incel culture, blaming women for the fact that they've never touched a boob. Granted, a lot of these dudes have been "soaking in it" for so long, they don't know why they're supposed to hate women, they just know that they do.
Origame
Origame - 5/16/2023, 7:53 AM
@Vigor - he did though. It's not how it was in the comics.

What's never actually answered though is why is it so important to change? If it really doesn't matter, why change it?
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 5/16/2023, 8:11 AM
@Origame - Gunn explained why he changed Cosmo though. He didn’t say it didn’t matter.
Origame
Origame - 5/16/2023, 8:25 AM
@philinterrupted - dude I'm using the same logic as @vigor. All of this is explained.

And if it matters enough to change, it also matters to people wanting it to stay the same. Not that complicated.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 5/16/2023, 8:31 AM
@Origame - your phrasing made it seem like you were arguing against Gunn.
Origame
Origame - 5/16/2023, 8:34 AM
@philinterrupted - ...well I clarified. I'm arguing against vigor.
GeneralChaos
GeneralChaos - 5/16/2023, 9:21 AM
@Vigor - They have an answer. They just don't want to admit it. They want male characters left alone.

Conversely, if Cosmo were a girl in the comics and the actual dog was a boy, Gunn probably wouldn't have changed the gender. I don't think anyone is being honest here.
Vigor
Vigor - 5/16/2023, 9:37 AM
@GeneralChaos @origame

All things being equal, I don't think there would be any gender or race swaps. But this medium (like many other mediums) were dominated by white male characters. I grew up on all these white characters. My best characters were gambit, iceman, hawkeye, as a kid. And as a kid I had no problem being surrounded by characters that all looked the same

But now as an adult. A parent with a little melanin girl. It MATTERS to me that we have more diversity. So I am all for the swaps. It's better for the world in a utilitarian way. And it makes the incels seethe with rage. I consider this an absolute win!
Vigor
Vigor - 5/16/2023, 9:38 AM
@ClintThaHamster - I think they're worried they're being replaced or something
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 5/16/2023, 9:42 AM
@Vigor - you spitting
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/16/2023, 9:56 AM
@GeneralChaos - "Conversely, if Cosmo were a girl in the comics and the actual dog was a boy, Gunn probably wouldn't have changed the gender."

Truly tortured mental gymnastics to find a way to stay mad.
GeneralChaos
GeneralChaos - 5/16/2023, 10:17 AM
@Vigor - I'm not arguing against it. The characters were created by straight white males to appeal to straight white males. That's not the actual world and those same people want to go back to that. But people aren't being honest about their motives. Same thing is happening in Florida. DeSantis is taking away funds fron any college that wants to talk about diversity and equality and inclusion. He's doing things under the pretext of actually trying to make a level playing field for everyone but what he's really doing it for us to protect straight whites.
Vigor
Vigor - 5/16/2023, 10:20 AM
@GeneralChaos - the more I hear about DeSantis, the more I am genuinely beginning to dislike him.
GeneralChaos
GeneralChaos - 5/16/2023, 10:23 AM
@Vigor - That's the tip of an ugly iceberg.
GeneralChaos
GeneralChaos - 5/16/2023, 10:28 AM
@ClintThaHamster - Lol you're an excellent judge of character. I'm all for diversity. It's just that no one is being 100% honest. Few would be upset if a female character became male and those in charge wouldn't let that happen and would argue it was for the sake of preserving continuity when it's really for preserving diversity.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/16/2023, 10:42 AM
@GeneralChaos - I agree with what you say above about DeSantis and his ilk's bad faith efforts at preserving white supremacy in the name of equality, but I'm not sure what that has to do with having a lady voice a talking dog instead of a dude.
GeneralChaos
GeneralChaos - 5/16/2023, 10:50 AM
@ClintThaHamster - It's all about hidden motives.
Origame
Origame - 5/16/2023, 11:36 AM
@Vigor - dude, that's not any justification. If it's representation you're after, then adapt diverse characters. No one is gonna mind an icon movie, but they're gonna get mad at a black superman movie.
Vigor
Vigor - 5/17/2023, 8:45 AM
@Origame - "If it's representation you're after, then adapt diverse characters"

Oh you mean "invent" diverse characters right? Because as we just established, the medium is dominated by white male characters

And it's arguably less easy to make new characters stick than to adapt a revised version of an existing one

Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 11:07 AM
@Vigor - well no. You don't need to "invent" new characters. There are plenty from both dc and marvel, as well as all through fiction to draw from. For example, instead of a black Clark kent/superman, adapt icon. Or reboot meteor man. Dc in particular created milestone, which was devoted to making black superheroes made by black creators. And that includes a whole host of very well received heroes including static shock.

Just look at all these characters that are never adapted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_superheroes

But onto your point about it being easier to revise existing characters, that's objectively untrue. You're gonna get people more likely to notice, yes. But most people are just gonna see it as you taking from the works of others and its gonna be viewed as a nothing moment in the characters history.

Pretty sure there's a word for one culture taking (or appropriating) from another...
Vigor
Vigor - 5/17/2023, 12:07 PM
@Origame - the white characters you're talking about have no "culture" to appropriate. Unless you consider blue eyes and blonde hair a culture.
Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 12:17 PM
@Vigor - ...yes they are.

Do you not know what culture is?

White skin is European. As well as primarily united states culture. Saying white has no culture is the same as saying black has no culture.

Superman, for example, is based on the experiences of 2 Jewish immigrants. Even including parts of their belief into his origin.

Saying white people have no culture is laughable from the simple fact there are so many white characters you feel are needed to rip off. All those white led franchises are examples of that culture.

Dude, learn what culture is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture
Vigor
Vigor - 5/17/2023, 12:25 PM
@Origame - I was specifically not talking about superman/magneto, or anyone with ACTUAL cultural influences. Changing someone's skin color is not cultural appropriation. I know you know this but you're choosing to be argumentative
Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 12:31 PM
@Vigor - ...yes it is.

If I remade shang chi but made him a white guy, is that not cultural appropriation?

Or Luke cage into an Indian guy?

Their skin color is indicating the race that owns the culture.
Vigor
Vigor - 5/17/2023, 12:39 PM
@Origame - those characters entire stories snd motives are about their cultural backgrounds. You can't change that because it intrinsically changes the characters.

Also please stop assuming someone's skin color indicates a person's culture. I can think of a hundred examples where that's not the case.
Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 12:49 PM
@Vigor - no, you just have an arbitrary line for when it's no longer culture.

Also, by your logic Chadwick boseman was culturally appropriating African culture, because he sure isn't from Africa.
Vigor
Vigor - 5/17/2023, 12:54 PM
@Origame - Chadwick decends from African culture. Just as a Jewish American or an Irish America has traces of their background and culture.
Changing a characters skin color (simple example, Ariel from little mermaid) is not cultural appropriation, unless it actually is (changing Luke cage to a white man)

This is simple stuff but you're being argumentative and defending white supremacy like you usually do
Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 1:01 PM
@Vigor - "Chadwick descended from African culture" how do you know that? Does it have something to do with his...skin color?

Your mental gymnastics are unreal.
Vigor
Vigor - 5/17/2023, 1:07 PM
@Origame - not everything is black and white (no pun intended) you can have a light complexion man with dreads from Jamaica. Just as you can have a black male in Italy who speaks fluent Italian.
Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 1:56 PM
@Vigor - just like you can have a white African. Yet you shot down the idea of any race other than black playing the role and just assumed his ancestry based on skin color.

You keep digging this hole.
Vigor
Vigor - 5/17/2023, 1:58 PM
@Origame - I didn't assume Chadwicks ancestry. I KNEW his ancestry. You're the worst and impossible to have a discussion with because you can never be wrong. You just want to be argumentative
Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 2:18 PM
@Vigor - fine. How'd you "know" his ancestry?
Vigor
Vigor - 5/17/2023, 2:27 PM
@Origame - because I know he's african american
Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 2:35 PM
@Vigor - ...and how do you know he's African American?
Vigor
Vigor - 5/17/2023, 2:50 PM
@Origame - just stop
Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 2:51 PM
@Vigor - it's a simple question. How do you know he's African American?
Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 3:18 PM
@Dehonesto hey I figured it'd be good for reference sake if you witnessed this. He's claiming that race is completely separate from culture and is insisting Chadwick boseman was African because he was African American. Yet is refusing to answer how he knows Chadwick was African American.
Origame
Origame - 5/17/2023, 4:36 PM
@Vigor - well glad to see you've finally stopped.

Look dude, it's pretty simple. We both know the reason you won't answer that question is because he had black skin, which is entirely my point.

That's the reality of the situation. You have nothing but assertions about how the world really works.

So either accept that you're wrong about race or answer the question: how do you know he's African American? And said answer better not include his skin color if you wanna have a leg in this argument anymore.

And I'll be asking you about Chadwicks race if you ever try to bring this tired argument again.

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