A Spoiler-Filled Comparison Between Iron Man 3's and The Dark Knight Rises' Plot Twists

A Spoiler-Filled Comparison Between Iron Man 3's and The Dark Knight Rises' Plot Twists

SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS! Oh yeah, and the title says it all.

Editorial Opinion
By comiccow6 - Apr 28, 2013 08:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Iron Man

IRON MAN 3 AND THE DARK KNIGHT RISES: PLOT TWISTS


So a lot of people have been comparing Iron Man 3 to The Dark Knight Rises in terms of the big plot twist. I’m going to say that it’s completely unfair. The two plot twists may be similar on paper, but they both work completely differently. So let’s compare, shall we?

THE DARK KNIGHT RISES



THE TWIST:
Miranda Tate is Talia al Ghul, and has been working with Bane the whole time



Okay, I’m going to say it... every time I see The Dark Knight Rises, this twist in no way surprises me, but it still feels epic when Batman is looking down at Bane, but is stabbed in the back (literally and figuratively) by the woman he loves. It’s tragic, it’s epic, it’s touching. Marion Cotillard, you may not have given the best death scene, but I love the twist reveal. The thing about it, however, was that we all saw it coming. In fact, I’m not even sure if it counts as a plot twist. Also, many people were angry at Talia being the mastermind, as it made Bane obsolete. Seriously guys, Bane’s still a badass. He’s still intelligent, he’s still the face of the plan. And it gives a whole new layer to Bane. It shows that... well, the Tin Man must have a heart. Because it’s breaking. It makes Bane four-dimensional. He’s doing it for his own purposes, and for love, while also building on his three-dimensional character traits. And it gives the bland Miranda Tate a new identity and better reason to be in the movie. Yeah, I laughed at it the first time I saw the movie. But after two more viewings, I came to love this twist.

WHAT WORKS:

*It gives Bane more character
*It gives Miranda more character
*The reveal scene is great
*A flow of emotion happens at once

WHAT DOESN’T

*The fact that fanboys raged about it
*It sets up the worst death scene ever


Now, to Iron Man 3!

IRON MAN 3



THE TWIST
The Mandarin isn’t the Mandarin, but an actor



My first reaction: Kill me. My second reaction: (frick) this (frick)ing movie. My third reaction: Hahahhahahahahaha! That... oh God, that’s the best thing ever!

And that, friends, is how my mind works. First was when I first heard about the twist. Second was when it was revealed in the movie. Third was at home, browsing 9Gag. Allow me to explain:

The first two times, the Mandarin was rendered obsolete to me. Probably to a lot more too. I wasn’t a big fan of Iron Man until I saw the first movie. Then I got really into the comics. I own a bunch of them, and the Mandarin holds a special place in my heart. So I was... less than happy about this twist. God, I was so mad! I couldn’t analyze the scene out of anger. I was pissed about it.

On 9Gag, however, I got it. First, Marvel couldn’t make Mandarin work in an Iron Man movie. Not properly. The Iron Man movies have been branded as techno thrillers by audiences, and the Mandarin is much more fantasy than sci-fi. He got human sized power rings from an alien spaceship piloted by a dragon from outer space. Now, imagine that in an Iron Man film. Done? You sure? Mad? Angry? Dissapointed? Of course you are. Now, imagine Mandarin as the lone villain, with power rings. However, they are powered by arc energy. At the end of the film, there’s a two-minute fight scene against the Mandarin, who now has his own suit. Happy? No? OF FREAKING COURSE NOT!!!! Second, the Mandarin was all a play. Killian made a deal with the Ten Rings organization to play them up to be huge terrorists to distract Tony and get some tech for Extremis if they were promised some. I smell Iron Man 4! Third, It’s comedy. It’s a metaphor for North Korea and all these terrorists who are ‘acting’. They have no real power, or anything unbelievably devastating, and they’re playing themselves up to be huge bad guys. The real threat is in the inside. Treason, double agents, all that fun stuff. Like Killian. Also, it kept the 2-D Mandarin from being unmemorable and bland.

WHAT WORKS

*The comedy
*The metaphor
*The added depth to the character
*The changing of formula (villain gets a suit)

WHAT DOESN’T

*The blind rage that I was thrown into
*The ‘fake’ Mandarin, who was played up in trailers



You see how they’re different? I laughed at The Dark Knight Rises. I laughed with Iron Man 3. After a rage-filled Hulk-out session. But never mind that.


That was it. Please no hate comments. I mean come on guys. Here, I’ll give you a word of the day.

OPINION.

Say it with me. opinion. opinion. O-P-I-N-I-O-N. Rhymes with Killian. Or fillian. Or sillian.

Until next time,
Comiccow6
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DCMarvelFreshman
DCMarvelFreshman - 4/28/2013, 8:32 AM
I love it!
RedSkull667
RedSkull667 - 4/28/2013, 8:39 AM
But in the end...Anyone can be Batman but there is only one Iron Man.
comiccow6
comiccow6 - 4/28/2013, 8:43 AM
So true. I really hope they don't recast, and that Tony takes a backseat in Avengers 2, or just acts as and 'authority' figure. Maybe War Machine goes on the front lines.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 4/28/2013, 9:05 AM
In my opinion the twist in Ironman 3 is more akin to Batman Begins where Ra's Al Ghul used a body double.In Dark Knight Rises the audience was mislead into believing Bane could be the child of Ra's.

All in all I liked Dark Knight Rises so I'm sure to love Ironman 3.
RedSkull667
RedSkull667 - 4/28/2013, 9:13 AM
There is not a post on this site with LEVITKUZ not ranting in it.....So much life dude so much life.
DutchMovieFan
DutchMovieFan - 4/28/2013, 9:56 AM
I didn't mind the twist, and I agree with your points. However, I understand fans disagree with this change. But what annoys me is stupid people making it seem like the worst movie ever. I guess they have never seen Batman and Robin (where comic book movies are concerned.)
Happy11
Happy11 - 4/28/2013, 10:02 AM
Iron Man 3 was crap. Nuff said.
superherofan21
superherofan21 - 4/28/2013, 11:05 AM
Am I the only big Mandarin fan who actually liked the twist? I thought it was fitting for the movie. Not only that, but Pierce was technically the Mandarin. His role was pretty much that of the comic version, even though he didn't really look like Mandarin, except for those dragon-like tattoos he had at the end. I thought that was cool.
comiccow6
comiccow6 - 4/28/2013, 11:08 AM
No way, I liked the twist after I got it. I didn't really see Pierce as Mandarin as much as a string-puller.
tonytony
tonytony - 4/28/2013, 3:56 PM
I wasnt really feeling the mandarin twist. The rest of the movie was cool though. Where was the makluan rings?
comiccow6
comiccow6 - 4/28/2013, 4:16 PM
They weren't in the movie. Mandarin had rings for decoration. I used them in the article for you to imagine them as being used in the movie as they were in the comics.
CPIXLEY
CPIXLEY - 4/28/2013, 5:04 PM
He lost me at 9Gag.
AmazingFantasy
AmazingFantasy - 4/29/2013, 12:20 AM
TDKR> IM3
Starkasm
Starkasm - 4/29/2013, 5:17 AM
Am I the only one who was happy they pulled off Extremis?
Because no one says anythinf about it.
Wallymelon
Wallymelon - 4/29/2013, 7:09 AM
first, North Korea, isn't playing games bro... they have nukes, and they will [frick] us up if people keep traeting them like theyre a joke.
Wallymelon
Wallymelon - 4/29/2013, 7:13 AM
it doesnt matter what the twist is like the twist is like the sixth sense if you wanna start comparing twists and shit. its a plot twist thats been played out by numerous movies, becuase thats a staple in film. this whole movie is just a big iconic fest. way more so than the avengers.

and the twist is better than dark knight, because it wasnt expected. it works in the film, it makes sense. it sucks on paper, but plays out great.
HecticHector
HecticHector - 4/29/2013, 9:18 AM
I absolutely HATED the twist. And I disagree when people say the Mandarin character wouldn't work. It worked pretty well in the trailers, Ben Kingsley looked terrifying! I was hyped to see him as a real villain and instead all I got was stupid Aldrich Killian on fire.
JorEllinator
JorEllinator - 4/29/2013, 11:51 AM
The twists are different. TDKR's works, and the raging fan-boys are idiots. Think about this, Talia gives Bane an order and he defies her after she leaves. Who's to say that Bane wasn't in charge? They don't imply that Talia was behind it all.

Mandarin however was just a joke that won't last. Think about this, this is the public perception of the Mandarin, some goofball actor. The change didn't need to happen, all it is for is a cheap joke and that's all. You didn't need to ruin the Mandarin, they could have just made Aldrich Killian the only villain. They don't even do anything with the twist, they say one line about it and move on. It felt like a huge middle finger to the fans and screw Shane Black and Kevin Feige!
HecticHector
HecticHector - 4/30/2013, 5:46 AM
@Joellinator Man, you've said it all. I'm so angry they've ruined the Mandarin character. I felt cheated.
D3adP00l1215
D3adP00l1215 - 4/30/2013, 8:43 PM
the movie is basically a whole therapeutic session with tony and banner which explains his narrative intro and ending. so where does iron man 3 fit in the phase 2 timeline? sine tony is telling banner something that has happen to him after the events of the avengers or when him and banner last saw each other.
Alexandre
Alexandre - 5/1/2013, 6:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

This is so great. For a second there I thought this twist was bull but then I read the plot. I just couldn't believe that there would be such a dumb twist like that in this movie, especially after all the hype people have been building up for this; you'd think the filmmakers would show some respect to the character and fans. I guess not. And all you Marvelites say your movies stay true to the source material! HA! Oh man, this is just too good.

Batman4Ever!!
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 6/2/2013, 11:18 AM
I didnt think the dark knight rises was great, but i thought it was better than iron man 3. That's just my personal opinion.
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