A Hypothetical How-To For a Justice League Film

A Hypothetical How-To For a Justice League Film

An in-depth look at how Warner Bros. could handle their cinematic universe to build towards a Justice League film by taking notes from Marvel.

Editorial Opinion
By AxlKomix - Jun 01, 2013 09:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

Surely by now most of you have seen the following image, which gives an interesting comparison of the Avengers and the Justice League:



Now, whereas this seems like a very accurate comparison, there may be a better way to look at the Justice League. It’s been said that Warner Bros. is going to approach the Justice League film by first showcasing the team and then spinning off into solo films. This will be interesting to see, but it might be more interesting to further look into the Avengers scenario (where the members are given solo films before teaming up). Going through with this, the above image might seem inaccurate in the end, but further similarities can be explored.

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Where to Start:

Clearly, the starting point for a DC cinematic universe is The Man of Steel. This immediately presents a problem, as we’ve yet to see where Superman’s film is going to lead. The best way to move forward with an Avengers-like lead up is to try to look past what current influence would have on this hypothetical.

So, where to start? In the Avengers mindset, there’d be a “Phase One” before the Justice League film. Clearly, the most popular and, more than likely, most profitable way to start is with DC’s holy trinity: Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman.

Superman is starting this hypothetical “Phase One” with The Man of Steel, so that’s accounted for. Batman is also well established in everyone’s mind from the recent end of The Dark Knight trilogy. Therefore, the first phase for the Justice League, to a certain degree, is already in progress. Nolan’s trilogy is separate from the universe to be created, but the importance here is the familiarity the character has with audiences.

This leaves Wonder Woman, for the most part, to close out Phase One. As the image above suggests, the best way to approach a solo Wonder Woman film is in the template of Thor. Think about the story in Thor and the central character, and the similarities will start to show. If the image above isn’t enough, it might be more helpful to break things down and take a closer look:

Wonder = Thor
Ares = Loki
Hippolyta = Odin
Steve Trevor = Jane Foster

Given the four characters would have similar roles, the success of Thor shows that this story could work. This isn’t to say, though, that the film should be a scene-for-scene rehashing of Thor. Throw in Wonder Woman’s own mythology and you have an effective formula for introducing the character to a cinematic audience.

After Wonder Woman is given her own film (hypothetically between 2015 and 2016), the DC trinity will have been established (much like the MCU has Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor).

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The Next Step:

So, is the first phase done now? Well, the trinity has been established, but there are other key characters that would need their own films. At the very least, Green Lantern needs a reboot and the Flash needs introduction. Bringing in these two characters next would round out the Justice League.

The Green Lantern film was a travesty. One big issue was lack of payoff. Oa was introduced but never truly established, and a number of supporting characters were introduced there only to be disregarded as Hal Jordan immediately flew back to Earth to do Ryan Reynolds things.

The reboot for Green Lantern (likely to fall around 2017 at this rate) needs to address what the original film ignored: establish a stronger villain and supporting characters. As far as story goes, it’d actually be beneficial to look at Captain America.

Bear with this.

Hal Jordan is a pilot, but compared to the rest of the Lanterns he’s just a guy. His super soldier serum? The ring. Abin Sur is the Dr. Erskine to Hal, taking him from relatively ordinary to extraordinary.

Much like Steve Rogers, after given his power Hal Jordan becomes a part of a new world and a community of interesting supporting characters. Colonel Phillips’s doubt of Rogers is much like the Lanterns’ doubt of Hal upon joining the corps. The team that Rogers frees from HYDRA can also be related to the few friends that Hal finds in the corps.

Villain? The Red Skull is the trial and error of the original super soldier serum. In the same light, Sinestro can be viewed as the trial and error of the Green Lantern Corps.

Again, a direct attempt to recreate Captain America: The First Avenger through Green Lantern is not suggested, but the similarities are worth looking into to fix the problems of a character that struggled with story his first time around.

As far as the Flash goes, I think an Iron Man approach is appropriate. It’s the stripped story of Iron Man, with all mythology thrown aside, that applies. An ordinary man with a higher-than-average intellect is opportunely given a chance to make a difference in the world.



On a side note, the Flash needs a little reimagining. In Injustice: Gods Among Us, Flash wears an armor-like costume (pictured above). What could be done with Flash is a lot more similar to Iron Man than what one would initially think.

Barry Allen is covered with chemicals and struck by lightning (or some other such freak accident involving electricity); the basic origin needs to stay the same. Does this give Allen his speed? No. Now, before getting outraged, consider this: Allen’s body holds a ridiculous level of static electricity due to his accident and he builds a suit that can harness that electricity. This suit, powered by Allen, allows him to run at incredibly fast speeds.

Boom. Iron Man.

The Flash film would likely come out the same year as the Green Lantern reboot.

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How the Justice League Comes Together:

Throughout Marvel’s Phase One, S.H.I.E.L.D. acted as the connecting web between the films and resulted in the Avengers coming together. Does DC have a similar agency to S.H.I.E.L.D. that could be used in the same way? Not exactly. However, DC does have one character that can walk in the shoes of both Nick Fury and Agent Coulson…



J’onn J’onzz, the Martian Manhunter.

Throughout the Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and Flash films, and the likely Man of Steel sequel to fall within the same period, J’onn would take on a role similar to Coulson or Fury, appearing in each film to connect the world. This would be stroking DC fans more than anyone else. In this role, J’onn would be more effective in his human form as John Jones (who wouldn’t be as recognizable by his name alone).

Why J’onn J’onzz? Considering these hypotheticals are all leading to an Avengers-like film, the threat to Earth would need to be equally similar. Therefore, the logical enemy for the Justice League would be the White Martians, a race that J’onn would be aware of as a threat.

Aside from trying to be a copy of the Avengers, the first Justice League film needs to be conservative with its villains. Coming out of the gate with Darkseid or some other villain of phenomenal proportions doesn’t leave much room for a sequel. At the least, Starro could serve as the alien threat forewarned by J’onn.

With all of these elements, one can easily put things together and see how the Justice League film would work with this formula (likely to happen in 2018 or so). However, one thing has yet to be addressed…

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How Batman Fits Into the Justice League:

As stated before, Nolan’s Batman trilogy is in no way a part of a greater universe. Again, though, The Dark Knight trilogy was a great way to establish the character for cinematic audiences. So, if this hypothetical “Phase One” is lacking Batman it’s because he’s already an assumed element in the universe. He’s the goddamn Batman.

Considering the true character of Batman, he isn’t one to play well with others (getting dangerously close to a Tony Stark quote). Batman wouldn’t willingly be involved with the Justice League. Someone would need to go out of their way to find Batman (who is very elusive) and ask for his help; this is almost like S.H.I.E.L.D. hunting down another Bruce for his help.

So, like the Hulk in the Avengers, Batman ends up as the reluctant member of the Justice League who shows up in the end and outshines everyone else.
Batman’s return to solo work in the DC cinematic universe would likely come after the Justice League film. The rebooting of the character would likely start at the origin of Robin, who opens up a broader universe with his future Teen Titans connections.

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The Future of the DC Cinematic Universe:



After Justice League, the universe would likely broaden with sequels to solo films, a Robin-driven reboot of the Batman franchise, and the solo films of other Justice League members. Again, this is all hypothetical and fantasy, but the formula presented could yield a successful and fan-pleasing push forward for DC in film.
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LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 6/1/2013, 10:20 AM
Why do people think a Justice League movie is so complex? Why must people just say to copy Marvel? It's not as hard as it looks.
Ocelot
Ocelot - 6/1/2013, 11:38 AM
The Justice league can work on their own, it's already starting to go wrong when you start trying to make them similar or equivalent to The Avengers. That is the wrong way to go about it.
AxlKomix
AxlKomix - 6/1/2013, 11:55 AM
This is all hypothetical and the purpose is to look at how things could be done IF Warner Bros. wanted to follow the Avengers template. I agree completely that a Justice League film should try to be its own thing. I also believe, though, that the idea of doing Justice League before establishing the characters in their own films is absurd. The article observes how DC's characters could work through a formula that's already been shone to work.
AxlKomix
AxlKomix - 6/1/2013, 11:56 AM
*shown
AxlKomix
AxlKomix - 6/1/2013, 12:03 PM
I'm also aware of ARGUS, but, in effort to avoid copying Marvel, Martian Manhunter seems like the better choice for bringing the Justice League together.

We can agree, or agree to disagree. Either way, let it breed discussion.
PhantomPunch
PhantomPunch - 6/1/2013, 12:44 PM
The DC characters are far more than a reflection of Marvels 2 dimensional, pretentious canon.


Make mines D [frick]IN C
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 6/1/2013, 2:47 PM
Dude read my editorial:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LEVITIKUZsLOUNGE/news/?a=76476

It's not absurd.
WawelDragon
WawelDragon - 6/1/2013, 4:09 PM
Sorry, you lost me at the beginning, really bad comparision...
AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 6/1/2013, 4:59 PM
I like it but.........

Those last two comparisons are really bad.

Aquaman is extremely powerful and can fight huge monsters, aliens, and just about anything.
PeterBenjaminParker
PeterBenjaminParker - 6/2/2013, 3:31 AM
I stopped reading after you compared Black Widow to Aquaman. It is literally the dumbest and most ill-informed comparison I've ever seen.

And telling from the comments of others, your suggestion to straight-up copy the plot of The Avengers is a terrible one.
AxlKomix
AxlKomix - 6/2/2013, 6:28 AM
I'm glad I tried to open this up for simple discussion and continue to get bombarded by insults.

Also, for those that "stopped reading after the beginning," I DIDN'T MAKE THAT IMAGE. It's been circulating around the internet for weeks. It's actually the big reason for the article because its inaccurate.
JorEllinator
JorEllinator - 6/2/2013, 6:40 AM
I stopped after your opinions on Hawkeye and Green Arrow, "the stupid one". Hawkeye can kill you with his fingernails and Green Arrow can shoot over 100 arrows per minute. Yes, the stupid one indeed.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 6/2/2013, 6:56 AM

See this. While it's not exactly definitive, there is a pretty strong mold that hundreds of movies have been following for who knows how long - for all genres.

From left to right: Firestorm (Pyro), Batman (Engineer), Martian Manhunter (Spy), Superman (Heavy), Green Arrow (Sniper), the Flash (Scout), Wonder Woman (Soldier), Green Lantern (Demoman), and Zatanna (Medic).

Again, not definitive, as clearly there are many more Jusice League characters. So here's how it goes.



The Pyro is a mystery. Who is this guy, where does he come from, why don't I know more about him? He or she is obscure. Has nothing to do with fire (I kept it just for fun), but the burning of others' imagination. And he isn't a man of few or no words, you just don't really understand them, because they are layered with subtext. The Avengers MOVIE Pyro was Loki.

The Engineer is a sophisticated genius. As the name suggests, this character likes to build things and is great with design. His or her expertise is so advanced that it proves invaluable to the others because it is so beyond them. This can sometimes lead to the character growing isolated from his or her peers, as they don't implore the same methods, nor do they have the same respect for the technology/skills as he or she does. Ego can make a great difference, but it isn't always the motivator. The Avengers' Engineer is Iron Man (duh).

The Spy is a chameleon. This character can blend in with just about any environment, is clearly adaptable, and can often be manipulative as it goes with the territory. What ALSO comes about is a serious loss of identity. If this character has a clear sense of who he or she is, then he or she will be striving to find a sense of purpose beyond what comes naturally for him or her, and that may incur a journey of self-discovery altogether. The Avengers' Spy is Black Widow.

The Heavy is ever reliable. Typically with the brawn comes a loss of intelligence that can be dramatically exaggerated (and often exploited) by other characters. The Heavy's journey of self-discovery has already been taken, and usually he or she is very comfortable in his or her role, making the character quite level-headed and dependable. He or she has a clear sense of right and wrong, which can be motivated by a number of things - conscience, money, rage, revenge, etc. The Avengers' Heavy is the Hulk.

The Sniper is a sharp learner. Often you'll see him or her making use of a ranged weapon that requires a great amount of skill to operate with the level of efficiency he/she employs. This is a literal interpretation of this guy's expertise. The Sniper is generally the first one aware of a situation that might confound others. He or she has everyone's number, does his or her best to figure out what makes people tick, but will likely not exploit these potential advantages. It is simply a defense mechanism, a fall-back method of filling a gap of vulnerability with useful information. The Avengers' Sniper is Hawkeye.

The Scout is a life-line. This character ALWAYS manages to go places others just can't get to, whether it's because he or she has an all-access pass to the world, no small amount of charm, or an ability to move REALLY fast - the Scout will get there. A certain sacrifice has to be made however, and typically this means the character will relinquish valuable loads that may be slowing him or her down. Those can be weapons, people, promises, perhaps even values. It can make the character something of a loner who looks at other people as disposable objects or tools to be manipulated. The Avengers' Scout is Nick Fury.

The Soldier is infinitely determined. He or she doesn't know when to quit, likely doesn't know how to quit, and/or sees giving up as a display of weakness and cowardice, or just general abandonment. The Soldier is extremely resourceful and will do his or her best to work well with others, but his or her uncompromising nature combined with whatever quirks tag along - will generally make this guy get really old, really fast. The Avengers' Soldier is Captain America.

The Demoman is a token. Likely this person has little in common with the rest and will feel like an outsider. Perhaps their personality isn't all that different and they simply represent a certain group, organization, religion, race, or belief. Typically their agenda (if they have any) is going to be dwarfed by a larger picture, and they might just be reduced to someone waving their [culture] around in everyone's faces. This character will likely be lead to question his or her presence and importance within the group, as their not exactly welcome, respected; and they likely feel some sense of redundancy. Of course, when they're not available, that is exactly when they will be needed. The Avengers' Demoman is Thor.

The Medic is a nurturer. This character may or may not be all there in the head, but what remains will always be someone who is motivated by compassion to help others. Sometimes their skills and expertise will be in high demand, and that will likely force them to make a "Sophie's Choice". Helping someone will mean denying others, but it could also mean exposing them to their own frailties. The Medic dreams of being as strong and dependable as the Heavy, as uncompromising as the Soldier - but he or she is usually overwhelmed by doubt. The Avengers' Medic is Bruce Banner.

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That is the only formula that should in any way be retained. Typically these personalities are shared amongst the cast, so there's USUALLY not 9 very different types, and RARELY on the same side of whatever conflict. You'll see a drama like "Closer" and EVERY ONE of these aspects is divided amongst the cast of only four characters.

There's my early morning rant.
AxlKomix
AxlKomix - 6/2/2013, 1:02 PM
@Joellinator- Read the comment directly above yours. I've made no comparisons of my own between Hawkeye and Green Arrow.

@Tainted87- Thank you for sharing your opinions instead of lobbing needless criticisms.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 6/2/2013, 6:22 PM
No problem. I will say though, that posting that image has the tendency to make people skip over your entire article, so it wasn't exactly a good idea to make use of it. And yes, from the start, I understood that you were explaining that it's incorrect. Evidently, that's lost on a lot of people.
bronzetiger01
bronzetiger01 - 6/3/2013, 9:36 PM
Isn't this duplicating the Marvel formula for their cinematic universe?

I think this is exactly the kind of apprehension WB/DC are trying to avoid, thus they are careful in observing how their Man of Steel would do at the tills.

Marvel formula: 2 - 3 films a year, linking each one to the major film Avengers.

More so, it seems that all the DC characters mentioned have a counterpart in the Marvel characters thus they should mirror each other almost to a fault.

Emulating/copying/duplicating the idea/formula of one outfit doesn't guarantee success in another. Why not come with a different idea/formula instead?

Again, the most important things to remember in creating the DC Cinematic Universe are:
1. It can actually exists (notes on realism)
2. There is a need for such existence
3. Whatever groups formed (World Finest, Suicide Squad, Justice League, Legion) has a rationale behind it, else they would only need one hero to save the world, that is Superman.
4. The heroes and characters are not just beholden to the world to protect it, but also they are their city's protector (Batman-Gotham; GL-Coast City; Supes-Metropolis;Flash-Central;Diana-Themyscira)

All these considered plus an open minded director with a good creative team by his/her side and I am quite sure WB/DC can pull this off.
vigilantes
vigilantes - 6/6/2013, 9:05 PM
Yah, why would DC copy Marvel's strategy down to the nitt-pickiness? DC has to be its own and NEVER purposely try to recreate Marvel. DC's characters are too good for the Marvel treatment.
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