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HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 5/23/2024, 12:15 PM
Blood hunt? admit it, you just threw that one in there to piss us off.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/23/2024, 12:22 PM
Wait , Norman doesn’t exist in the MCU?.

If I remember correctly ,Raimi’s Norman finds out that atleast Oscorp doesn’t exist in this universe which could just be because the MCU version hasn’t found it yet.

Anyway , i do hope we get him soon such as in the next trilogy or so.

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Apophis71
Apophis71 - 5/23/2024, 12:40 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Sony owns Norman, thus complicating to the point of near impossible to use him outside of Spider-man films...

...it sucks but inserting the no Oscorp into NWH was likely cos no way they could show the Oscorp logo anywhere outside of a movie featuring Spider-man and at the time uncertain there would be any more times we saw Peter outside of MAYBE one of the Avengers films.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/23/2024, 12:45 PM
@Apophis71 - that’s true I guess

I feel it would still be nice to just introduce him as a Spidey villain and then if Sony allows it , expand him into having influence on the rest of the MCU.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/23/2024, 1:24 PM
@Apophis71 - I think the no oscorp thing is debateable. I don't see Norman google searching for oscorp. I think it's a possible wiggle room if it was said that Norman went to where it would be and didn't find it.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 5/23/2024, 1:36 PM
@dagenspear - There is always wiggle room, for one could have a parent company name and a brand name and only looked for brand name...

...the bigger point is Sony are unlikely to allow the use of Oscorp (which they own the rights to), Norman Osborn (who they own the rights to) and Green Goblin (which they own the rights to) outside of movies heavily featuring Spider-man (at minimum would require a lot of negotations and giving Sony a cut of the Box office every time any of those featured in a non-SM film).
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/23/2024, 12:23 PM
Annihilation
Acts Of Vengeance
Dark Reign
The Mutant Massacre
Inferno
Age Of Apocalypse
Onslaught
X-Men:Messiah Complex
Avengers Vs X-Men
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/23/2024, 12:29 PM
@marvel72 - Definitely House Of M.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/23/2024, 12:24 PM
Before any AvX happens, we need House of M and Messiah Complex/War to properly set it up.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 5/23/2024, 1:10 PM
@mountainman
This.

Also, where's Age of Apocalyse??? C'mon! :D
mountainman
mountainman - 5/23/2024, 1:29 PM
@Doomsday8888 - Certainly should have been on the list.

If I had my preference for how an MCU X-Men overall sage would go, it would look like this:

- Phase1: Magneto/ Sinister/ Sentinels/ establish the world

- Phase 2: Apocalypse saga ending with AoA + throw in some weird elements like Brood, Savage land etc here and there

- Phase 3: The Decimation saga - House of M, the mutant decimation, Messiah War/Complex, ending with AvX
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/23/2024, 12:31 PM
World War Hulk needs to happen but you need Iron Man and Captain America back in the movies not most of the lame new characters they've introduced.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 5/23/2024, 1:21 PM
@marvel72 - can't do most of the stories or do them justice now they replace gold with tin
HAUSMAN01
HAUSMAN01 - 5/23/2024, 1:01 PM
I've never fully enjoyed any of the FoX-Men films. Even the greats like First Class and Days of Futures Past have never felt like the X-Men to me. This is why I am very optimistic about Marvel Studios tackling these characters, the handling of X-Men 97 simply makes me that much more confident that they will do justice to the source material. The best thing Feige did was take time and not rush headfirst into making X-Men films once they had the rights. The studio understands how lucrative and important mutants are to the overall MCU.I couldn’t disagree more. No matter how well the studio is doing not taking the time to get it right will have repercussions that severely outweigh what ever short term financial gain they would receive. It could severely hurt the brand and the MCU as a whole. Also where the writer is concerned I never take stock in or worry about the resume of the writers or directors Marvel Studios chooses to work with. Just look up their history on how each film is developed and how many different people contribute to the final product. Invariably the first person to crack a story is never going to be the sole voice of that project. If they only let resumes dictate who makes films for them we would never have gotten the Russo Brothers whose last film credit before Winter Soldier was You Me & Dupree, or the powerhouse team of Markus & McFeely who narratively completely steered the MCU into greatness in phase 3.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/23/2024, 1:20 PM
@HAUSMAN01 - Feige didn't write 97. For the other people being gotten that may work, there are movies that I think haven't worked.
BraxtonHicks
BraxtonHicks - 5/23/2024, 1:14 PM
Here's the thing

Bloodhunt, Spider-Island are too BatGuano crazy to attempt. House of M, Dark Reign, AvX, WWH, and Annihilation would fall apart flat without a proper set up or piggybacking off another major MCU event. War of the Realms could be contained to one Thor and the Thor Corp movie.

So what now?
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/23/2024, 3:30 PM
@BraxtonHicks - You would build to these events, have half a dozen movies and the final movie the event of the phase.
BraxtonHicks
BraxtonHicks - 5/24/2024, 1:29 PM
@marvel72 - I understand that's a reference to Endgame and the 22 movies but to build bigger tension over the course of movies the tidbits should've been dropped the first movie after Endgame in Spiderman NWH.
BraxtonHicks
BraxtonHicks - 5/24/2024, 1:40 PM
@marvel72 - or least start putting it together in a nice bow yesterday as they're jumping the shark filling their egos with evaporated flammable gas.

Spiderman 3/ Strange 2 introduced multiverse; Antman 2/3 introduced Quantumverse/ Kang, Loki introduced multiverse/ Kang as Endgame introduced messing with Time...

Moon knight, She hulk, werewolf by night, echo, black widow, Hawkeye, Marvels, Falcon/ Winter Soldier introduced what???? In matters of storytelling besides new characters? None of those moved the overall arc. Forward.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 5/23/2024, 1:18 PM
Gotta say, I don't want any of those. How about some smaller, story driven CBM, that rely on writing instead of bombast?
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 5/23/2024, 1:20 PM
What is the point all will be watered down
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/23/2024, 3:33 PM
@WhateverItTakes - I agree everything they've done with The Kree and Skrulls and not one movie has adapted in any form The Kree And Skrull War to the epic scale it could be.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 5/23/2024, 4:16 PM
@marvel72 - civil war, planet hulk you name it
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/23/2024, 4:41 PM
@WhateverItTakes - Civil War was a lot to do with not owning the movie rights, I think they did reasonably well considering.

Planet Hulk could have been done better.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 5/23/2024, 5:26 PM
@marvel72 - I think they could have waited to do civil war properly and do it over a few films
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/23/2024, 10:15 PM
@WhateverItTakes - Yeah a 2 parter like Infinity War and Endgame.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/23/2024, 1:22 PM
It’s unfortunate that Malekith was just a “nothing” villain in TDW…

I feel like Eccleston could have nailed the comics version of the character that’s more akin to Joker.

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/23/2024, 1:24 PM
Off topic:

The Acolyte Featurette

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grif
grif - 5/23/2024, 1:26 PM
a mcu movie where they fight vampires?

[frick] this

and the idea of doing a wwhulk has been ruined. people need to stop bringing this up
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 5/23/2024, 2:56 PM
Siege would be awesome, too bad we don't have Osborn already.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 5/23/2024, 3:17 PM
Nothing Dan Slott wrote should be adapted.
JDL
JDL - 5/23/2024, 6:07 PM
Frankly too much of the audience has shown a dislike for the mutiverse and almost everything mentioned above wallows in it.
CerealKiller1
CerealKiller1 - 5/23/2024, 9:44 PM
@JDL - …huh? Only one of these stories is even close to multiverse (House of M) and even that is still technically taking place with the 616 characters. Where did you get multiverse from?
JDL
JDL - 5/24/2024, 12:25 AM
@CerealKiller1 - If it requires most Sony owned characters or conflicts with filmed events it means other universes. No retcons as a general rule.
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 5/23/2024, 6:26 PM
Meh. Xcutioner’s Song is way better than all of these stories.
Order66
Order66 - 5/23/2024, 11:36 PM
Nobody wants to see avengers vs x-men (heroes vs heroes has already been done) and nobody wants to see Blade a villain. Sorry.
Order66
Order66 - 5/23/2024, 11:37 PM
Annihilation and House of M are the only ones on this list that deserves an adaption.

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