CBM Fans vs. Twilight Fans: Who is more obsessive?

CBM Fans vs. Twilight Fans: Who is more obsessive?

I compare the long standing reputation of Comic Book fans to the newer Twilight movie fans...

Editorial Opinion
By ecksmanfan - Jun 14, 2010 11:06 PM EST
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For what seems like years, comic book fans, as well as fans of the sci-fi and fantasy genres, have had a reputation of being rather obsessive and overly excited about the latest movie to be released. I think this reputation started in 1977 with "Star Wars IV: A New Hope," (at the time, it was just "Star Wars") where thousands of people began camping out in front of theaters to be among the first people to view the most technological film ever released. Ever since then, CBM and sci-fi fans have carried the reputation in question.



Jump ahead about 30 years to 2008 and we see a new phenomenon gripping most females in the nation: the "Twilight" series makes its debut on the big screen. The books created a craze that we haven't seen in some time and we knew it was just a matter of time before the series made the jump to the silver screen and when it did, we all knew it would be big. Here in Utah, the land of Mormons, Meth Labs and Mini-vans, the craze seems to be heightened, mainly due to the fact that the author of the "Twilight" series is a BYU graduate.



As the release of "Twilight: Eclipse" gets closer, I am seeing more and more Twilight festivities in the works: parties, theaters being bought out, people advertising parties on their cars. One might think that things are getting out of hand. But in a recent discussion with a friend, after I was teasing her for attending one of the aforementioned parties, she turned the argument around on me saying that it was no different than me going to a midnight showing of "The Dark Knight" or "Transformers." She had me there...at least for a minute. I happen to catch a clip of the Oprah show a while back (shhh...don't tell anyone...)and it showed a group of women who were gathering to watch last falls uber-hit "Twilight: New Moon." Maybe I'm a bit biased, but it seemed almost ridiculous that this group of grown women were gathering to ogle over men half their age and planning their entire day around these parties.

Now, I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't plan parties around the release of the latest X-Men film. Yes, I will attend the midnight showing of the film, but so do fans from many other walks of life. At least, that's what I've noticed in my local theaters. So, in this CBM fan's humble opinion, I think the time of our reign of being the leader in the "Overly Excited and Rabid Fans" category is over and a new fan has taken the throne. But for fun, as well as evidence, I'd like you to vote on the two polls I have created.





I'd like to know what you all think of both sides of the story. Do we, comic book movie fans, still carry a reputation? IN just about every case that I have been to a midnight showing of a movie, the quality of the film has been rather high as well as critically accepted. I think most would agree that the "Twilight" films, at least so far, have been anything but decent films; some would say they were just down right bad films. My thinking is that at least the films we "obsess" over are worth watching.
About The Author:
ecksmanfan
Member Since 10/22/2008
Compared to many people on CBM, I'm a relative newbie to the comic book world. I've just recently (within the last 10 years or so) started reading comics. However, I've been a fan of comic book characters nearly all my life, thanks to cartoons like the X-Men Series and Batman. Been downhill ever since.

I am an avid movie watcher and run my own movie website,(GeekBoyMovieNews) which covers a wide variety of movies, books and television news. There is nothing better to me than to sit back and a enjoy a good movie, or a crappy one for a good laugh.

While you may not see a lot of articles submitted by me, I've been an active user for close to three years here on CBM and I enjoy every minute on here. We have the best online community on the net her at CBM.com.

I've been lucky enough to climb the ranks here at CBM and the almighty Galactus has chosen me to act as one of his Heralds (Jr. Editor). So if you ever need suggestions or help on articles, I am more than happy to help out; you can find me in the CBM chat quite often. I also assist Big G in his "Beat Galactus Quizzes," so if you feel like you have a good question for the next quiz or suggestions on making them work better and more smoothly, feel free to drop me a line.

I look forward to talking and discussing comic books and their movies with all of you on the site!
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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/15/2010, 3:59 AM
ECKSMAN @ Tut tut tut tut...........


RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!


; D
DaenerysTargaryen
DaenerysTargaryen - 6/15/2010, 4:52 AM
Twilight fans duh. SO far no comic book fan has thrown heavy books at my head.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/15/2010, 5:30 AM
CBM fans, without a doubt. just listen to some of the asinine comments people made about Thor's costume before they even saw anything about the movie. lol
Stumblin
Stumblin - 6/15/2010, 7:34 AM
I have to disagree Multi, mainly because there is hardly any evidence of that negativity towards new members. If someone came to me asking about what comic to start reading or movies to recommend, I would simply answer the question and not belittle them because they were not in the know in the first place. That doesn't make sense to me. I see new members on here all the time asking about what comics to read or movies to check out and they get answered no problem so I'm not sure where you're seeing this because I don't. I see bickering among members all the time but that's what we do we debate with one another, it's fun.

Now yes we are all overly passionate about our CBM and comics, a lot of us, me included have been reading for over 20 years. So if an adaptation is going to be made, I would like it to be good and not waste my time, "Catwoman" "Batman and Robin" "Daredevil" etc. Twilight fans seem to except anything that has that title in it. It could be a steaming pile of shit and they probably still accept it.

That's the difference, we push for the best of our CBM's Twilight fans only care about scrawny pasty white dudes with glitter on them.
Stumblin
Stumblin - 6/15/2010, 9:30 AM
I don't frequent Twilight forums, but I have friends that are Twilight fans. Which the majority are women, including my girlfriend, so yes maybe not verbatim But that's the jist.

I think you're misunderstanding my comment, I NEVER said we have any power over how a movie is made. Our only power is ticket sales and merchandise. When I said "we push for the best" I mean to say we hope for the best.

I've seen negativity all throughout this web site, I NEVER said their wasn't any, but I have yet to see any toward a new member because they asked a simple question. Granted you are an editor and I'm sure see a lot more crap from other member's posts than I do, however, all the negativity I see are when different opinions are involved. Not when a question like, "What comic should I check out?" At least from what I've seen.

I can't just say, "Yes, Multi, I agree everyone bashes all the new guys" because I haven't seen it. So as my experience as a regular member I disagree with you. Maybe you're just too good at your job.

I do agree that we are sometimes stereotyped as whiny, nerdy, unhappy and all that jazz, but from my experience with people I don't get as much as a negative reaction from non-comic enthusiasts because I read comics or enjoy them. I get the most negativity because I aim to work for the industry, I get the negativity remarks because I have a BFA in Sequential Art because they think it's not a real job. Random people that I've talked to hardly give a damn about what I like to read, though a lot of non comic enthusiasts do like comic related movies, even movies that they like and I point out it's based on a comic like Road to Perdition they're like, "Wow! Comics aren't all spandex!"

Yes I am biased to Twilight, I could care less about it, but like my girlfriend and some of the other ladies I know really don't care so much about the story as they do about half naked dudes. I'm not just pulling shit out of my ass.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 6/15/2010, 9:31 AM
ecksmanfan@ sounds like you need to get out of Utah brother! i've never had the horrible misfortune of seeing a twilight party advertised on a car... you poor, poor soul. i am sorry.

Multi@ i do have to give stumblin a little bit of credit. as much a CBM fans are off the walls i went to my local comic shop situated very conveniently about 100 yards away from a large movie theater. it was Wednesday, the day of the midnight showing for the new twilight movie. i went there at 2pm and there was a line way past the ice cream store, comic shop and restaurant 10 whole god damn hours before that movie even came out. i have never, EVER seen a line that long, let alone that early for any CBM including TDK. and those are GOOD movies! maybe it's just where i live, maybe where you live people are camping out and what not but i'll go see midnight showings and the theatres will be sold out but i'll get there 2 hours before the movie and still find a good seat. i do think CBM fans have a little bit more perspective.

and i have seen alot of people mainly on the THOR articles asking what to read and getting some great suggestions. but your an editor so you see stuff i don't....

at the end of the day tho i don't think there really is any comparing them. i mean eckmanfan brings up star wars in 1977. im sure there were many women in that group waiting to see that movie and we all know how many women there are at conventions and what not. the genre world of sci-fi/fantasy is much more open to both sexes than twilight. which is geared to girls and as a result gay men as well. so because of that the movies have really strong opening weekends where every twilight fan just HAS to see the movie and then they drop off after that. they don't make shit compared to TDK or IM franchise or Spider-Man.

twilight is the backstreet boys. girls love it they need it, they need it now, they'll scream for it, beg for it, buy it over and over again until the next n'sync comes around then they'll drop it like a bad habit and 10 years later laugh about how crazy they were for something so stupid.

a CB fan is for life.

ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 6/15/2010, 10:13 AM
@Hamm & LEEE- I'm not talking about the characters of the books here, I'm discussing the fans. Maybe we need to read the article again? Hmmmm?
SHHH
SHHH - 6/15/2010, 12:37 PM
I have ta agree with MultiPoniPoni.. You don't agree with the majority Name Calling begin's.. Look at JOnah Hex.. The only comment's allowed are "It Suck's" If You don't agree you gotta have a name calling debate. There are No more debate's.....Not everyone's opinion matter's just the majority... If your'e not part of the majority your'e opinion does not matter... You can't support nothing here but what everybody elese like's...
airbeyonder18
airbeyonder18 - 6/15/2010, 3:00 PM
Hmmmmmm.....Let's compare: Superheroics mixed with awesome costumes, great actors, incredible action and effects Versus poorly acted, bazillion abb chested, gay vampires who care about your feelings.


I'm gonna stick with Superheroes.
airbeyonder18
airbeyonder18 - 6/15/2010, 3:04 PM
Anyways, who's the most obsessive?

3 million young girls, teen girls, single women, and married women who go gaga over Twilight.

100 million people around the world ranging from different age, nationality, from male to female who have read comics far back to the 1940s.

Comic Book Fans: 1
Twilight Fans: 0
soperman
soperman - 6/15/2010, 6:54 PM
well that being said @multi and @stumblin, i cant buy comics where i live and i am going to canada soon and i will surely pick up some comic books, but i havent read any in ages, what would you recomend? lol

ya wanna know what sucks, the last twilight book will be split into 2 movies, that means 5 movies instead of 4 (cries inside) so there is another year of girls obsessing of douchey vampires instead of me. yay ;(
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 6/15/2010, 7:27 PM
It really doesn't matter who is crazier CBM fans or Twi Fans but all I know is Twilight is for fags and CBMs are awesome.
McLovin
McLovin - 6/15/2010, 10:19 PM
I find it interesting that some of the people that bash the Twintards also seem to have a lot of knowledge about these movies. I couldn't begin to tell you why the Twilight movies suck and that is simply because I've never watched them. I've had plenty of offers from friends who apparently swear by it, but I've turned them down again and again. Nothing about it appeals to me and it seems that the demographic they were shooting for were girls ages 8 to about 80 and gay dudes of all ages.

Now as far as who are more obsessive? Well, the most crazed Twilight fans seem to be the younger ones, while the crazy comic/scifi fans are usually older. Which behavior seems more age appropriate to you guys?
PieFace
PieFace - 6/16/2010, 12:02 AM
My wife after watching Twilight and New Moon on DVD: "Thank God you forbid me from watching this in theaters.."

My sister after watching Twilight: "OMG I drooled over that movie so much, but I wont recommend it to you, it's a chick flick..It's not even good..I think it's because of the hype.."

My mom after seeing a clip of Edward Cullen on TV: "I thought it's a vampire movie, how come there's a gay person in it?"

I rest my case..!!
superman7
superman7 - 6/16/2010, 4:31 AM
I think it's funny. My girlfriend doesn't read comics unless i tell her 'you need to read this one' (YET, but she's starting to get hooked). But she has read a lot of Vampire books, including twilight, which she read WAYYY before the movies were even being considered. But i find it funny to watch her do the same thing I do with CBM's. She gets frustrated with the changes made and needs to meticulously nitpick at the movies and tv shows.
Hell, she's about to boycott true blood. ha
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/16/2010, 7:59 AM
CBM fans are difenately more compulsive. we're all guilty of it to a certain extent. some way more than others.

from what i understand, the Twilight movies don't follow the books 100%. I've never read them or seen the movies, but thats what i understand. but the fans still love the movies.

CBM fans have a way of picking apart tiny details and allowing those changes to ruin the movie for them, regardless of whether or not the movie is actually good.

One guy said TDK was overrated because in a post 9/11 world, the Joker wouldn't be able to get his hands on explosives. thats just a crazy reason to not like a movie.

One guy thought TDK was inconsistent because the Joker used oil to blow up Dent, but they didn't explain what he used to blow up the hospital. Thats even more ridiculous.

And if you need further proof, then go look up the first article that showed Thor's costume. Nearly everyone that posted in there was complaining because Thor had black pants. Some even went so far as to say they lost interest in the movie because of it. Thats as compulsive as it gets.

Every day, in damn near every article, people are complaining about minor details taht don't change the quality of the movie. Its obvious to me that CBM fans are far more compulsive. We're all guilty of it from time to time, but some just go to extreme levels.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 6/16/2010, 8:01 AM
This is unbelievable.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/16/2010, 10:08 AM
@ anil

thats a pretty bold thing for you to say after attacking me the other day for doing nothing other than posting my opinion in that Nolan article, don't you think?
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/16/2010, 10:12 AM
@ multi

i completely agree with everything you've said here. i've been commenting a lot less because i've been completely attacked 3 times in the past 2 weeks for posting my opinions. not even directing my comments at anyone in particular. its gotten ridiculous around here. 2 years ago, it was a small community of people that respected each other for the most part. but the community has grown very much in these past 2 years, and more and more pricks have shown up. it kinda sucks. You can't post a comment without someone talking shit anymore.
Denn1s
Denn1s - 6/16/2010, 12:08 PM
the thing is twilight will (thankfully) be over soon, whereas CBMs won't. so who cares if twitards are more obsessive? soon they won't even exist. CBM fans on the other hand grow stronger every year with more movies coming out and more people start reading comics because of them...so i think we ''win''...
SHHH
SHHH - 6/16/2010, 12:32 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only with this... I barely comment.. It's a waste.... It's no fun anymore...Twilight Fan's respect each other...
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/16/2010, 12:39 PM
@ multi

oh really?? i haven't checked my email. i'll look at it when i get home from work.

and thats the thing, me and you haven't agreed on everything in the past, but we could always give our opinions to each other without calling each other names and being assholes.
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 6/16/2010, 3:44 PM
@Multi, CDB & SHHH- all of you are rat bastard pieces of shite for not commenting....I agree with you though.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/16/2010, 4:17 PM
@ ecks

yeah, you've been around long enough to see it man. It sucks because the cool people around here really are awesome to talk to. Its just that the loons have gained the majority of people on the site, and its really bringing the forum down.

you're definately not one of the bad guys though, brotha. :)
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 6/16/2010, 4:39 PM
@CDB- Yeah...I read through the articles, but I really don't comment that much anymore. It's almost pointless. I'll continue coming here though, because I enjoy reading about what's happening in the CBM world and our editors and others have some great scoops and sources. Part of the growing pains I guess.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/16/2010, 4:52 PM
@ ecks

I agree. I still come here numerous times every day, I just don't comment nearly as much as i used to. its not worth it. you know you're going to get into an argument.
bleedthefreak
bleedthefreak - 6/16/2010, 6:19 PM
@CorndogBurglar,ecksmanfan,SHHH,MultiPurposePoni

i agree with all of you. you would think me being the incredibly anal 15 year old prick i am in real life would be transfered on to this website. i just do not see the fun any more sure there were always fights but mostly just josh vs LEEE who get along fine now or supermike. it seems more people come to this site in hordes to troll. its a damn shame i am on my second year and this is my favorite site and i like talking to some of these people and i have been tempted to leave because its starting to get annoying
PieFace
PieFace - 6/16/2010, 6:57 PM
guys..guys..don't let the comment stop the news.. Yeah, I admit that sometimes we hate the comment but we all love the news, right? Hell I've been stomped to supermike's level once..

now say it together like the kids in the sound of music..
"We all LOOOOVE the neeeewwsss..."
AngelAragiel
AngelAragiel - 6/16/2010, 10:03 PM
There is, like in everything, diferences between one person and the next. For the time I've been checking this site I've never felt uncomfortable or attacked, sure there are some heated discusions but that's the fun of sites like this.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/17/2010, 4:03 AM
@ angel

give it time. lol. there are plenty of pricks around here that will attack you for no reason. its happened to me 3 times in the past week or two. its what happens when kids are allowed to use the internet.
Tc
Tc - 6/17/2010, 5:45 AM
At least comic book fans dont like girly glittering vampire comics :P
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