Ror Revisits: The Punisher (1989)

Ror Revisits: The Punisher (1989)

In the last of my Punisher revisits I'll be looking at the one that started it all. The Mark Goldblatt 80's action flick starring Dolph Lundgren...

Review Opinion
By MarkCassidy - Oct 12, 2010 11:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Punisher
Source: Ror Reviews

The first and only time I saw this movie was back in the early 90's. As a teenager and a comic fan(albeit not a Punisher fan), I thought I would love it but I just couldn't get past the lousy acting and crappy production values. Watching it again the other day, I have to admit that I found some kind of fondness for it. Maybe it was just nostalgia, I actually enjoyed it more than the latest effort, Punisher: Warzone.



In this movie Frank Castle is an ex cop who's wife and children are killed in a car bomb(Castle is beside the car when it happens, evidently invulnerable to large explosions). In typical Punisher fashion, he loses it and wages war on crime,etc. Look, if you have seen any of the Punisher movies, you know the story. The only difference in this one is that instead of Micro, or two Laurel and Hardy lookalikes he has an old drunk bum as his sidekick. Whom he lures around corners with a remote controlled car with a bottle of whiskey on top of it. Yep, simply calling the guy over ain't Frank's style. Anyway, there are Yakuza and mobsters to murder and a bunch of children to save before Castle can retire to his sewer to sit in the buff, staring at candles.

It's a violent, silly mess of a movie. Much like Warzone, but strangely the story here sucks you in a little more. Lundgren is a terrible actor, there is no denying that. Although there are a few eye rolling scenes(watching him get out performed by a group of children is hilarious), he also convinces at times as a killing machine with nothing to lose. It's certainly the best performance I have seen him give(not that that's saying much). It's a shame he doesn't wear the signature skull t-shirt though. It's hard to put my finger on, I just got more wrapped up in this than I expected. Maybe it was that nostalgia that I mentioned. There is a sort of grimy, old school feel to this. The music, the action, the sets...though technically terrible, just add to the enjoyment. Louis Gossett Jr. also pops up as Frank's old partner and adds some class to the proceedings. The script is also passable, sometimes even pretty good. Especially the scene between Lundgren and Gossett Jr. Castle's description of the murder of 125 criminals in 5 years as "a work in progress" working wonders as a chilling one liner.

Aside from the positives, this is still a load of bollocks! The fact that it knows it is and revels in it helps, but ultimately it's just not a very good movie. The thing is, it's also fairly enjoyable despite that, and actually succeeds where Warzone failed in being something approaching compelling. If like me you have bad memories of this, give it another watch. You might be surprised how much you don't hate it!

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Maggott
Maggott - 10/12/2010, 11:29 AM
i just watched this on dvd like 2 days ago and its not as bad as i remember
Paulley
Paulley - 10/12/2010, 11:31 AM
hehe i watch this the other day too.. its one of those its so bad yet you cant stop watching it til its over movies
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/12/2010, 11:34 AM
LOL... even this is better than WH@REZONE!!! : P

Cool 80's action flick feel to it, heh heh good old DOLPH loved him in EXPENDABLES!!!

I'm telling DOLPH needs to come back as THE RUSSIAN in PUNISHER! ; P

Cool review, I loved the BATMAN reference it it! : D

It tried to ca$h in on Burtons BATMAN!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/12/2010, 11:39 AM
I don't care what anyone says, this one was still the best portrayal of Punisher. Tom Jane was too "nice" and Stephenson was too goofy and hokey.

Lundgren's no emotion acting actually worked perfectly for the no emotion Punisher.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 10/12/2010, 11:42 AM
Yeeeah, but it wasn't just the no emoting, he was just plain bad at times. He delivered his lines like he was in a school play. Anyway, I agree that he was decent sometimes too, but I still think Jane was the best so far.
jazzman
jazzman - 10/12/2010, 11:44 AM
whats funny i watched it last night on TV in the UK it was bad but you cant stop watching it LOL
ASSASSIN666
ASSASSIN666 - 10/12/2010, 11:44 AM
I never hated this version. I just treated it like an action movie that happened to be called Punisher. I think it's amazing what we find good, or decent when we're young only to develop real taste in films when we mature. That goes with most things in life in general. Funny how when this was made, or say the horrible Capt America, or TV's Hulk how some of us loved it just because it was a comic related movie. Skip forward twenty years, and add in the advances of CGI and it's almost a win win situation. That being said if only they all could come up with stories straight from the comics instead of having hollywood writers f**k everything up like Fantastic Four. Today as we stand on the verge of 2011 there is no excuse in the world for badly made comic movies. The bar was set by films like X-2, Watchmen, Batman Begins, God willing it continues that way. The word reboot should never have to happen in today's comic movie world, thank you Ror for making me think about this
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 10/12/2010, 11:52 AM
haha, ok, sorry, I'll move on. That told me. No more opinions from me!

Assassin, normally I would agree that we develope better taste as we mature, but like I said in the review, this is a rare occasion where I enjoyed a film more as an adult than I had as a youngster.
Risky5150
Risky5150 - 10/12/2010, 11:54 AM
best punisher movie
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/12/2010, 11:56 AM
ROR @ You ever gonna ever review this???



Possibly the worst cbm of all time!!!

Tho I kinda liked the guy who played THE ATOM! : P

Damn this was worst than CATWOMAN and BATMAN & ROBIN!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/12/2010, 11:58 AM
REVELATION @ LMAO ,,,, TOM JANE is an AWESOME PUNISHER!!!

... and THE PUNISHER was a billion times better than WH@REZONE! : D

WH@REZONE catered for the braindead lot that don't like no plot and loved stupidness, total spit in the face for true PUNISHER fans!
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 10/12/2010, 11:58 AM
hahhaa, Jebus Lee I totally forgot about that! I might..but probably only when I run out of proper, actual films first!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/12/2010, 12:01 PM
oooooh ROR lol, hey you got HOWARD THE DUCK too remember!

; D

You ain't done that one right?

I think you might need a good crate of beer when actually watching them heh heh.
derberg49
derberg49 - 10/12/2010, 12:02 PM
I have always thought this one held it's own. Back before movies were commonly released on video, I waited for this movie to hit the theaters (I was, and AM a HUGE Punisher fan), and it never came out. As soon as I could rent it, I watched it, with diappointment. I wanted something right out of the comics, and only after Garth Ennis took the Punisher OUT of the Marvel Universe did I understand this take. This is actually a pretty dark take on the Punisher that does work. I don't know why they couldn't use Microchip, but the replacement was a nice idea. They need to take a bit of Born for the development, and make the movie in the late '70's early '80's. There has to be some connection to the "darkness" that Castle found in the 'Nam. Quit messing up his origin. So what if he's in his 60's now. If you haven't read the Ennis/Llarosa Max comics, check it out and you will see what I mean. He's a grumpy, old vigilante that doesn't play nice. Please Marvel, do it right, or don't do it at all.
crazyray
crazyray - 10/12/2010, 12:02 PM
@Lee- holy sh!t man!!! can anyone vouch which was worse, that JLA OR...the FF that never saw the light of day?!?!?

@Ror- if you on a Dolph kick... Masters of the Universe.
derberg49
derberg49 - 10/12/2010, 12:03 PM
Jigsaw in "WarZone" was the WORST ever!
derberg49
derberg49 - 10/12/2010, 12:04 PM
The FF and Captain America movies of the 80's are quite possibly the worst movies ever! The FF one was done to keep the copyright or something.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/12/2010, 12:04 PM
crazyray @ Yeah lol, heh heh, I remember they had no budget for that one right lol?

Can just remember STRETCHO waving at the end after the wedding! : D


derberg49 @ Exactly dude, and the way they treated MICRO in his first screen appearance was total sh1t too! Appalling movie... up there with THE SPIRIT!
superdog
superdog - 10/12/2010, 12:16 PM
ive said it before and ill say it again this is my favorite version
crazyray
crazyray - 10/12/2010, 12:19 PM
@LEEEEE- YEAH!!! I remember reading Wizard back in the day and they hyped the hell outta it... then....nothing. Kinda like my love life. lol
nuck82
nuck82 - 10/12/2010, 12:30 PM
2 stars? come one at lest 3
nuck82
nuck82 - 10/12/2010, 12:31 PM
crazyray@ Masters of the Universe the best movie ever!!!
TheJester
TheJester - 10/12/2010, 12:39 PM
This is the only Punisher movie I like to date, have said that for a long time. i still love the scene where he walks into the dojo, and mows all the sword wielding baddies down with some SMG's....

that there is good TV folks....
Joe6Pack74
Joe6Pack74 - 10/12/2010, 12:39 PM
@LEE777 - when did they make the JLA movie? I have not seen that one in the bootleg bins at any of the cons.
TheJester
TheJester - 10/12/2010, 12:41 PM
EBWOP: I vaguely recall they had n official Punisher uniform made for Dolph, but screen testing it, it wasn't "real" enough..or it looked silly, so they just opted for the biker look and skull buckles etc.....
Maggott
Maggott - 10/12/2010, 1:05 PM
Itotally agree Ror most movies I watch now that I saw when I was younger just ruin it for me. Im like what was I thinking. Have u revisited the shadow or the phantom. I would like to see those reviews as I enjoy the revisits. Makes me watch them again.
WhoTheHellIsBen
WhoTheHellIsBen - 10/12/2010, 1:07 PM
I am one of the few who liked all three movies. The first is good old school cheesey fun, The Tom Jane one is good but he even admits to doing nothing to study for the character. To Me the Tom Jane one is a spin on the mainstream Punisher comic. War Zone to me was excellent in the form of the Punisher War Zone comic line. Seriously read the old War Zones from the 90's, it IS straight forward violence with a high body count. For those who hate War Zone just are not well versed in the Punisher history, there is no clear cut black and white version of this character. Everyone should just be happy they did not make a horrible Frank-n-Castle movie or where he came back from the dead and given alien weapons to hunt Aliens and monsters
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 10/12/2010, 1:15 PM
weneedrevelation, gotcha, no more crack for this paddy!..or is it dope? I dunno. Stuff is so gay anyway.

Logic, "For those who hate War Zone just are not well versed in the Punisher history,"..maybe. Or maybe they just, I dunno, don't like crap movies?

Maggot, I will be revisiting both of em at some point..well, I dunno about Phantom actually...

marvel72
marvel72 - 10/12/2010, 1:28 PM
what a load of shit,i thought the thomas jane punisher was shit but at least he wore the skull on his shirt.

this is a complete load of bollocks.
Maggott
Maggott - 10/12/2010, 1:35 PM
Really no phantom. Oh well it's better than the syfy one but I kinda liked it also.
TheGlove
TheGlove - 10/12/2010, 1:37 PM
This IS the best Punisher film! the other were terrible.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/12/2010, 1:57 PM
crazyray @ Awww lol, yeah I used to buy WIZARD too, loved that mag!

Its magazine size tho now right?

shame, the smallcomic book size made it stand out... talking magazines (well its a catalog really lol) I'm buying PREVIEWS again! : p

REVELATION @ You CRACK me up LOL! : P

Man, apart from a few on here I'm a hardcore PUNISHER fanatic (Got nearly every Punisher comic ever to be published), PUNISHER's my all time fav MARVEL character and WH@REZONE was TOTAL SH1TE!

The rip off SCARFACE as JIGSAW to the stupid lame ONE-AND-A-HALF PUNISHER TASK FORCE taking FRANK down (list goes on) makes even this 1989 movie a masterpiece compared to that sH1T, theres a reason LIONSGATE ain't doing another one, they [frick]ED UP and it was SHIT! : D

What they should have done for PUNISHER II is RYKERS ISLAND with JIGSAW, based on the classic MIKE ZECK mini series, would have blown the cinema viewers away!

number21 @ Back in '97 dude, it was a pilot from WB!

Never aired LOL!

You can watch it online!



Lol!
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/12/2010, 2:06 PM
the best films are this

1.punisher warzone (proper origin,hardcore violence,proper villain i.e jigsaw,but had terrible acting.)

2.the punisher(had the proper costume but everything else is shit thomas jane looks like a pussy compared to stevenson & again terrible acting.)

3.the punisher(lundren version,is a load of bollocks.the only good thing about movie some of it was well written.)

the only way we are gonna get a decent punisher movie is when marvel studios makes one.

nuff said.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 10/12/2010, 2:26 PM
Never seen it and got no plans to. Great review though ROR! :)
Whargoul
Whargoul - 10/12/2010, 2:47 PM
how can you all think that tom jane as the punisher was good he cried almost the whole movie it was pathetic but i liked warzone it had a ton of bad ass action scenes and dolph lundgren as the punisher ruled he was the best by far his wishing to die and all that was awesome true dolph isnt the greatest actor but he did pretty good playing a guy with a death wish
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