STAR WARS REBELS Showrunner On What The Force “Time Travel” Means For The Rest Of The Franchise

STAR WARS REBELS Showrunner On What The Force “Time Travel” Means For The Rest Of The Franchise

Star Wars Rebels showrunner Dave Filoni opens up about the newly introduced Force power - a time traveling ability we have yet to see used in the franchise. What does this mean for the future of Star Wars?

By MattIsForReal - Mar 06, 2018 07:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Cinemablend
Disney XD’s animated adventure Star Wars Rebels came to a fitting close last night, but not before introducing fans to a brand new game-changing Force ability: time travel - or a version of it, anyway.

The episode A World Between Worlds saw Ezra in a Force-dominant space where he not only had access to past events in the universe, but could seemingly alter history as well. It’s an intriguing twist on Star Wars mythos, one we haven’t seen used anywhere in the franchise yet. But what does it mean for future Star Wars properties? Is it possible we could see this bizarre form of time travel in a Star Wars film on the big screen one day?

Speaking to Cinemablend, Star Wars Rebels showrunner Dave Filoni said:

“No, I hope not. I mean, because this is important for this particular story, and I think we'd have to be very careful about how it would be used otherwise. It's why we destroy the temple in the episode. It's mainly a place that people would go to see the future and the past. It's not such an active place and Ahsoka, for her part when she's pulled out of that moment, is placed back in that same timeline and not very long after she left it. So again, she's smart enough to know that she cannot go back with Ezra, so there is not this big time travel thing. She knows she has to remain a part of her world and her timeline.”

The moment in the episode that Filoni is referring to is when Ezra uses The Force to save Ahsoka by pulling her away from her battle with Darth Vader (as see in in Star Wars Rebels Season 2). Filoni clarified that what we saw unfold in Star Wars Rebels technically isn’t even time travel in the traditional sense. Filoni continued:

“I don't really think of it as time travel. It's not really a thing where you go through one door and out another in a different time. The world between worlds is really about knowledge and gaining knowledge. As the Dume wolf says, what's in there is knowledge and destruction. You can gain knowledge of the future or futures that may happen, and you can see things that happened in the past. You can at times choose to alter them, but it's perilous to do so and when you alter something you don't know if that's not the way it always happened. So destruction is the other half of what's in there. When you go through these doorways, you're in peril of destruction because you're missing all sorts of things that would have happened or things would've happened otherwise, you know, so it's a dangerous game but it's not something we're here going in and out of different doors. It's an extension of the Jedi's ability to perceive the future and the past, as described in Empire Strikes Back.”

In other words, don’t expect to see Luke’s fate at the end of The Last Jedi - or any other controversial decisions made by Rian Johnson - retconned by Star Wars Episode IX director J.J. Abrams, as that clearly was not Filoni’s intention with Star Wars Rebels - hence, why the the Jedi temple was destroyed after the rescue.

What do you think of the use of “time travel” in Star Wars Rebels? Is it a complete game changer in the universe?

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knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 3/6/2018, 7:54 AM
@thebeard should be pleased now.......
TheBeard
TheBeard - 3/6/2018, 8:04 AM
@knocturnalzen10 -
aflynn
aflynn - 3/6/2018, 7:56 AM
VictorKrueger
VictorKrueger - 3/6/2018, 8:01 AM
Oh God.

Wonderful, now Star Wars is going to start going the way of Star Trek with changes in the space/time continuum and alterations of past story lines.

This little first step will open the door for Disney/Lucasfilm to go back and redo the original trilogy or make alterations to the original trilogy or new movies making young OT characters done with photorealistic CGI.

It's not going to happen any time now, but 20 years from now....watch what they do to keep this gravy train rolling.
FrankieDedo
FrankieDedo - 3/6/2018, 8:27 AM
@411IDSigo - Erm... Filoni actually said that it's NOT gonna happen, and even if there is this "time interference" that is far from time travelling, it just is part of the events, so everything it's "already written". Therefore, he basically said that even if time "travel" exists, it will never change the events as we saw them.

For damn's sake, read the article.
VictorKrueger
VictorKrueger - 3/6/2018, 2:35 PM
@FrankieDedo - Sorry to steal your thunder guy, but I read the article. But I have been around long enough to know that what someone says is often not what a studio does. Down the road, when they are looking for fresh stories and have milked the Star Wars franchise for all it is worth....in those moments of desperation...they will change the timeline. Just watch and see.
FrankieDedo
FrankieDedo - 3/7/2018, 5:55 AM
@411IDSigo - Well, actually they have a very more effective way o re-doing stuff. Wipe out the canon and start a new one! Think about it, Restarting the universe, and retelling the stories, allows a completely controlled franchise with no legacy whatsoever.

They don't need time travel to erase old movies and i don't think they want to cut bonds with the most important fantastic movie saga of the last 40 years.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 3/6/2018, 8:01 AM
It was a very cool addition to the lore, the final episode (all things considered) was good overall, the first part was filled with some boring shit, but it got better.
I love Ahsoka, so i'm glad she's alive, pretty sure Ezra is alive, although i could care less.
Different story for Thrawn.
I think and i reeeally hope he's alive as well! :3
#BenduWasRightTho

Time travel is tricky, but...goddammit do something to bring back Luke! :(
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 3/6/2018, 8:19 AM
@Doomsday8888 - everything they need to bring back Luke are found in the first drafts of Revenge of the Jedi.
TheBeard
TheBeard - 3/6/2018, 8:04 AM
It was a great show, sad to see it go. But at least it went out with a bang, and did an excellent job finishing the story oh these rebels. I wasn't expecting to learn that Hera was pregnant when Kanan died, that was a fun surprise. Also it creates another future character for them to use, since he will be force sensitive. I loved the purgill showing up, and the way Ezra and Thrawn "go out". Can't wait to see the obvious next show that will follow Ahsoka and Sabine after ROTJ events. Best part of that too will be that Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie etc can show up. I'm gonna pick up the series on blu ray once they release the complete set. Now bring on Comic-Con where Filoni will ( i assume) tell us the next show's name and when to expect it.
Amuro
Amuro - 3/6/2018, 8:59 AM
@TheBeard -

Dave Filoni is really the Lucasfilm's equivalent of Marvel Studios' Kevin Feige, the one who really understands the Star Wars universe and who tells us great stories about it.
DeathSeal
DeathSeal - 3/6/2018, 9:33 AM
@TheBeard - I really done like how they handled Thrawn and the end. SPOILERS NOT how they finished because they left the door open for him to survive. But having him fire on unarmed civilians.That is just way out of character. It was hard for me to wrap my head around it.
DeathSeal
DeathSeal - 3/6/2018, 9:46 AM
Buy hey Pellaeon is cannon now so that's good
nikgrid
nikgrid - 3/6/2018, 10:40 AM
@Amuro - Haha no he's really not. The man can't let go of shit. Ahsoka should be dead, Ezra should be dead.

Also Force Wolves, time travel and Space Whales? C'mon.
defenderofthefaith
defenderofthefaith - 3/6/2018, 8:05 AM
I think a live action spinoff of Ahsoka would be awesome.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/6/2018, 8:11 AM
Loved the final, and the entire run on the whole... a few fillery eps aside.

Armageddon26
Armageddon26 - 3/6/2018, 8:12 AM
@RorMachine - There were a few bad fillery episodes, but this show was a very pleasant surprise overall, sad to see it go
MrDandy
MrDandy - 3/6/2018, 9:46 AM
@RorMachine - Yeah my main issue with the series was an overabundance of filler episodes but apart from those this was a solid series and pretty damn good.
Armageddon26
Armageddon26 - 3/6/2018, 8:11 AM
The finale was different than expected, much more hopeful, but still handled extremely well. this final season was pretty great.

They also perfectly set up a few interesting ways for the story to continue that I was not expecting
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 3/6/2018, 8:17 AM
I lightly follow the show can someone catch me up on something?

Ashoka
She fights Vader and then wanders into the Dark Side Temple and then the next time (timeline wise) we see her is after ROTJ when they go searching for Ezra?

Thrawn
It would be interesting is Thrawn and Ezra have to ally once reaching whereever it is they went to? Or no?
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 3/6/2018, 8:29 AM
@IronGenesis - Ashoka is the one the Time Travel thing refers to... Ezra enters another Jedi Temple which has a gate to some kind of force plane linking past, present and future. He hears quotes from all the shows and movies drifting by and finds a portal where he sees Ashoja’s final fight with Vader. Growing alarmed watching it, he reaches through it and pulls Ashoka onto the force plane before Vader can finish her off and the dark temple collapses, essentially jumping her ahead to the current time.

Ezra then wants to do the same thing to save his master who had sacrificed himself a couple episodes earlier, but realizes that he can’t without altering the results of his sacrifice. Then the Emperor, who wanted this Jedi time plane for himself, gains enough access to threaten Ezra and Ashoka, blasting blue flames in through a portal and forcing them to flee back through different gates. Ezra makes it back and the Jedi Temple is destroyed, keeping access to the mystical time plane out of the Empire’s reach. Ashoka doesn’t show up again until the finale.
DeathSeal
DeathSeal - 3/6/2018, 9:48 AM
@IronGenesis - I like the idea of Thrawn and Ezra teaming up in the unknown regions fighting the Vong.
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 3/6/2018, 10:55 AM
@DeathSeal - it would fit right? Thrawn wasn’t an Imperial till the bitter end right? I thought he was simply alied with the Empire so that they would defeat the enemies in the unknown region.

But if they both find themselves being attacked then they will have to work together and what wonderful drama it would be.

Like Brienne and Jamie
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 3/6/2018, 8:21 AM
I’d catch episodes of this show here and there, and made a point to watch a few leading up to the big finale last night, so I saw the Time Travel thing. I think they did a fine job of keeping it limited, where the only person who “traveled” through time was someone who had gone missing in the past anyway, so as far as we know nothing actually changed and it could be that time is immutable. And then they destroyed the way to access it anyway. Will some writers in the future abuse this idea? Possibly, but that’s on them.

Not being a huge fan of the show, I still liked the finale. Admittedly, I find the shoot-outs with Storm Troopers to be kind of boring, but there were other cool parts. You could poke holes in the whole set-up for how the Empire was defeated on that planet by a handful of characters, but that’s a staple of Star Wars regardless. I didn’t even know a damn thing about the monsters who showed up at the end to save the day, but I still thought it was kind of cool. And I liked the time skip to set up whatever comes next.
gulducati
gulducati - 3/6/2018, 8:22 AM
How is it not time travel? Ezra just pulled someone out of an event from the past.
IronMandarin
IronMandarin - 3/6/2018, 8:28 AM
@gulducati - It seems like an incredibly limited version of time travel.

The way this interview explains it, you can yank people out of their timeline and bring them into the time nexus, but the only way they can leave is through the door they came in. If they go through another door it'll likely cause a time paradox or "destruction" as Filoni calls it.
IronMandarin
IronMandarin - 3/6/2018, 8:25 AM
Really hated the finale of Rebels...

...But this interview does clear up some of the questions I had about the time travel from last week. The only question I have left is whether anyone can get back in there.

The portal into the temple was destroyed, but the world between worlds still exists. Palpatine clearly had a way into the temple. Yes it was only opened when Ezra was in the time nexus, but what's to say that it couldn't be used to get back in?
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 3/6/2018, 8:35 AM
@IronMandarin - for that second part, I assumed that the Emperor’s way to that force time plane was the temple gate that he showed Ezra in the finale... he still couldn’t enter it, but he had it functioning enough to look through it and interact with people on the other side. He wanted Ezra to fully open it, but Ezra destroyed that one as well.
IronMandarin
IronMandarin - 3/6/2018, 8:46 AM
@Chewtoy - Ahh! Of course. That actually makes plenty of sense considering the visual cues between the episodes like Palpatine reaching into the time nexus and Ezra putting his hand up against the doorway to his parents. Good answer.

So all the doorways are closed for now then until a new writer invents a new way in.

Though not sure how Ezra would be able to open the doorway when Palpatine couldn't.
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