STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI Director Rian Johnson Reflects On His Arguments With Luke Skywalker Actor Mark Hamill

STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI Director Rian Johnson Reflects On His Arguments With Luke Skywalker Actor Mark Hamill

Star Wars: The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson has opened up on disagreeing with Mark Hamill about the portrayal of Luke Skywalker in the 2017 movie, sharing his take on their arguments about the Jedi.

By JoshWilding - Sep 04, 2022 10:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Empire (via SFFGazette.com)

We've known for a while that filmmaker Rian Johnson and actor Mark Hamill butted heads while making Star Wars: The Last Jedi, with both men clearly disagreeing when it came to how Luke Skywalker should be portrayed at this point in his life.

Depicting the Jedi Master as a broken down old man who had fled after his nephew, Ben Solo, became Kylo Ren, Luke did eventually find redemption in death when he inspired the Galaxy. We're not sure how they'd have found out what happened, but the insinuation was that his legend would have spread after his confrontation with The First Order's new Supreme Leader.

Hamill has said he "fundamentally" disagreed with Johnson's ideas for his character, and the director has now reflected on their difference of opinion while talking to Empire Magazine (via SFFGazette.com).

"I’m choosing my words carefully, not to be diplomatic, but I don’t want to frame Mark’s experience of this through my lens because there’s no possible way I can ever put myself in the shoes of Mark, or Carrie [Fisher], having lived their entire lives being known as these characters," he starts. 

"And what it’s like to play them first in their twenties, and then to come back and play them in these movies and have a script handed to you saying, 'Well, it’s this now...' I can never fathom what that experience is like. It’s impossible."

"If Mark Hamill is talking to me about Luke Skywalker, I’m gonna listen to him, and I gotta think about that and argue with him and go back and forth," Johnson continues. "And genuinely plumb the depths of my soul and what I wrote and figure out if this seems right. Also, though, remembering that, obviously, he created the character on screen, but he’s Mark Hamill, he’s not literally Luke Skywalker. Luke Skywalker lives as a creation on that screen. He’s a myth."

"And as such, he only really lives in the minds of people who listen to and in various ways believe that myth. And I know that was me. So, it’s complicated. But I mean, the short answer to your question is, it was f***ing terrifying," the director added. "For all the back and forth, on day one of shooting, Mark said, 'Okay, this is the vision that you’re going for, and I’m going to do the best version of that I possibly can.'"

He certainly did that, and while The Rise of Skywalker attempted some level of damage control with Luke, it came across as bizarre and forced. Hamill, however, has found some measure of redemption with his appearances as a younger version of the Jedi in The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett

Do you think Johnson made the wrong call with Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi?

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Fogs
Fogs - 9/4/2022, 10:05 AM
Where's that guy who was arguing everybody in the comments the other day saying that no, Hammil wasn't against how jake skywalker was written, and all of that was angry fandom conspiracy theory?
Fogs
Fogs - 9/4/2022, 10:07 AM
Plus stating that he (Hamill) was baiting everybody and was 100% on board with Ryan.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 9/4/2022, 10:07 AM
@Fogs - Someone actually said that here?
Fogs
Fogs - 9/4/2022, 10:31 AM
@TyrantBossMedia - Yeah, if I'm not mistaken in that article saying Boyega wanted to see more of Luke.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/4/2022, 10:31 AM
@Fogs - Jake Skywalker?

Don't you mean Luuke Skywalker?
Fogs
Fogs - 9/4/2022, 10:34 AM
@bkmeijer1

bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/4/2022, 10:42 AM
@Fogs - ah gotcha. Maybe he's both Jake and Luuke, the lesser version of Luke that got grown out of Luke's chopped off hand?

Kidding, I actually like the character of Luke in the sequels. I know I'm sitting on a massive hill and probably alone here, but I do also totally understand why people don't like this version of Luke.
Fogs
Fogs - 9/4/2022, 10:46 AM
@bkmeijer1 - sure you can like whatever you want... I for one am alone in the hill for those who don't really think Rogue One is a good film.

Thing is denying what Hamill says here is bizarre, that'swhat some commenter did the other day, basically saying everybody was delusional. Well, Rian confirms it wasn't a prank overall (mild shock!).
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/4/2022, 10:56 AM
@Fogs - yeah, denying it was weird. I remember seeing so many compilations on youtube back in 2017/2018 about Mark voicing his perspective on the character compared to Rian's.

Think it's one of the first times we hear Rian about it though, and indeed does confirm they had wildly different viewpoints.
pyramosteu
pyramosteu - 9/4/2022, 1:25 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - of course someone did, for every action there is a reaction on a forum lol
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/4/2022, 7:10 PM
@Fogs - this video interview just ruins anyone who delude themselves into believing he was in any way supportive of this. And I can promise you he did not like the final product either.
Fogs
Fogs - 9/4/2022, 8:23 PM
@McMurdo - I'm sure of that. But I really think that, being who he is, he had enough influence to change Luke's arc but he didn't.
abd00bie
abd00bie - 9/4/2022, 8:33 PM
@Fogs - That video of Hamill being sad when talking about TLJ lol
jst5
jst5 - 9/5/2022, 3:36 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - There are a lot of really stupid people who post on the comments...so you can't be surprised someone said that.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 9/5/2022, 4:14 PM
@jst5 - The stupidity of some still baffles me.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 9/4/2022, 10:06 AM
Actors, especially those who have played characters for decades, have a special connection to their characters who they helped bring to life.

When you bastardize, mistreat and misrepresent those characters some actors take it personally.

Directors and writers should listen to their actors when discussing character development especially when your writing goes significantly against not just the cinematic characterization but every other characterization in other mediums as well.

Short version: Rian Johnson is an idiot.
BobbyDrake
BobbyDrake - 9/4/2022, 10:06 AM
Ha, he thinks he knows more about Luke than Mark Hamill??? What the what??? This guy is so full of himself
feedonatreefrog
feedonatreefrog - 9/4/2022, 10:07 AM
Examining the difference between Luke the legend and Luke the man actually gave the sequel trilogy some sort of interesting reason for being.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 9/4/2022, 10:07 AM
@feedonatreefrog - You obviously didn't watch the same trilogy.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 9/4/2022, 10:44 AM
@feedonatreefrog - This. I think there's a version of the sequels that are not steeped in examining legacy, but since Abrams started on that route, Johnson crafted his story largely in that vein. Oddly, TLJ really only explores the legend in a metatextual level.
GirshwinDavies
GirshwinDavies - 9/4/2022, 10:15 AM
Mark Hamill IS Luke Skywalker
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 9/4/2022, 10:17 AM
Mark Hamill is a pro and he handled it accordingly, Rian is also right here and just proves in his own words how he was incapable of understanding things from Luke's pov cause make no mistake...Mark may not LITERALLY be Luke Skywalker but the man is the next best thing.

Luke is not like Superman in the sense that you can do whatever you want with him and just recast or reboot.

They had a once in a lifetime opportunity to use the OG actors, expand the myth and they dropped the f*cking ball.

Tainted and broken beyond repair.

I LOVE what Favreau & Filoni are doing with the CG Luke but heh...in the back of my mind, i know where the story goes and it f*cking sucks, it's done, you can't change that.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 9/4/2022, 11:22 AM
@Doomsday8888 - why is he (a fictional character) not like Superman also a fictional character
Rosraf
Rosraf - 9/4/2022, 11:51 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - Maybe because Superman existed as a comicbook image long before he was portrayed by an actor in a movie (and had relatively short tv runs before that). Luke Skywalker first appeared onscreen, with no special costume, symbol, mask, etc. For the audience, Luke Skywalker has just always looked just like Mark Hamill.
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