STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI Director Rian Johnson Talks Rey's Parents, Porgs, Forcebacks And More

STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI Director Rian Johnson Talks Rey's Parents, Porgs, Forcebacks And More

Rian Johnson had quite a task in continuing the story of The Force Awakens along with expanding the Star Wars universe in his own way. Find out more about the director's vision after the jump...

By MattBellissimo - Dec 11, 2017 07:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Rolling Stone
Directing a Star Wars film is no easy feat, and while Rian Johnson seems to have handled it with grace in Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the director has admitted to plenty of challenges in crafting a satisfying sequel. In a recent interview with Rolling Stone, the director discussed some of the important elements that went into making the film what it needed to be.

One of the biggest mysteries that came from The Force Awakens was the protagonist herself, Rey. Fans theories were plentiful, specifically concering her parentage. While fans may wish for Rey's parents to be people of significance, Johnson is more concerned about emotional significance for the audience and the character. "What does it mean to her, what does it mean to us," he said. "I really, really believe that it has to be rooted in something that has an emotional impact, and that's the only thing that matters. Surprise is fine, but surprise by itself is cheap. The emotional and deeply-rooted resonance of 'I am your father' [in The Empire Strikes Back] is why we remember it. Not because, 'Oh my god, I never would have guess that he was.' Now especially that that's set as a pattern, the audience's expectations are now that, 'Oh, you're going to pull something out of your hat for this or that.' And you can, and that'll be fine, but you better damn well make sure that it also means something and is satisfying beyond just the, 'Oh, it was this,' reveal."

Not catering to expectation seemed to be a focus for Johnson, as Mark Hamill explained.  "At times, I'd say to Rian, 'We gotta think of what the audience wants,'" Hamill said. "And he'd say, 'No, we've gotta think of what we want.' Which is a learning process for me."

Another hint at Rey's past came through her "Forceback" vision when touching Luke Skywalker's lightsaber, and Johnson admitted to "studying" the first film in order to get everything right. "Just like any process of writing, it's more excavation than sculpture. You're finding it as you go, and you realize it wants to be a certain thing. So yeah, the flashback was essential, but the dynamic between each of the characters was essential. Every single thing in The Force Awakens, I studied forensically."

Humorously enough, one of the more divisive aspects of the film seems to be the Porgs, the bird-like creatures that inhabit the island where Luke has exiled himself. Johnson explained that the idea for the creatures came from the puffins that inhabited the island of Skellig Michaeal, where the island scenes were shot. "When we first scouted Skellig Michael, the island where we shot Luke's stuff, it was covered in puffins," said Johnson. "It's a bird sanctuary, actually. So there were all these adorable little puffins all over the island. It was first just like, 'OK, let's come up with the Star Wars version of that.' Also, I knew that I wanted any opportunity for lightness or comic relief I could find on the island. So that combination led to the Porgs. I apologize. [Laughs] No, I love 'em, I really love 'em!"

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arrives in theatres December 15, 2017.
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knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 12/11/2017, 7:10 AM
probably won't be anywhere near empire strikes back level but i just want a good showing story wise and break the mold they have going at this moment
can't wait til thursday
JohnnyTBP
JohnnyTBP - 12/11/2017, 7:12 AM
Can't wait for Friday
MattBellissimo
MattBellissimo - 12/11/2017, 7:13 AM
@JohnnyTBP - Will be avoiding comments sections after today, along with Twitter. Can't trust anyone! ;-)
JohnnyTBP
JohnnyTBP - 12/11/2017, 7:15 AM
@MattBellissimo - fax. Even the last tv spot said avoid spoilers
Kman
Kman - 12/11/2017, 7:21 AM
@MattBellissimo - I shouldn't even be here right now... Im tempting fate
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 12/11/2017, 7:24 AM
@Kman @johnnyTBP @Mattbellissimo- i may actually do work at work this week :)
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 12/11/2017, 7:15 AM
-2.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 12/11/2017, 7:16 AM
"Also, I knew that I wanted any opportunity for lightness or comic relief I could find on the island. So that combination led to the Porgs. I apologize. [Laughs] No, I love 'em, I really love 'em!"

GhostDog
GhostDog - 12/11/2017, 7:28 AM
@SuperCat - LMAO!!!
GhostDog
GhostDog - 12/11/2017, 7:27 AM
The emotional resonance in the Vader reveal isn't why we remember it imo. We remember it because it's just iconic storytelling.

I think those who saw the movie back in the day were in no way prepared to accept anything Darth Vader said at face value. My pop saw it when he was 13 and he was just stunned.

Vader was trying to trick Luke into trusting him, into saving himself. Remember, Luke was beaten and disarmed-- pun intended-- hanging on by one hand above a bottomless chasm. Vader could have said anything he wanted to Luke to get him to give up and come back onto solid ground, to be captured and taken to the emperor. Luke had no reason to believe him, and neither did the audience.

It was just a great cliffhanger.
adamcawa
adamcawa - 12/11/2017, 7:48 AM
@BlackBeltJones - search your feelings, you know it to be true. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Yeah, pretty much that ended any and all doubt as to whether Vader was lying.
adamcawa
adamcawa - 12/11/2017, 7:50 AM
Since I won't be seeing it until the 21st (my daugther's birthday), I decided there was no way I was going to avoid spoilers, so I went ahead and spoiled the movie. OH MY GOODNESS... is all I'm going to say.

(FYI, I'm one of those kinds of people who actually liked movies being spoiled, as odd as that sounds.)
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - 12/11/2017, 10:06 AM
@adamcawa - FYI: None of the spoilers circulating online are legit. So...you haven't spoiled anything.
GwenLantern
GwenLantern - 12/11/2017, 8:39 AM
Judging by his comments about studying The Force Awakens, they didn't actually have a plan, after all. Typical JJ, if you ask me. All intrigue, no payoff. I know his type...


Anyway...
This may be our last chance to have a guess at Rey's parentage.

So what's it to be;

Luke's daughter?
Han and Leia's daughter?
Obi Wan's daughter?
Reincarnation of Vader?
Clone of Vader?
Clone of Leia?
Zombie Padme clone?
Zombie Shmi clone?
Absolutely nobody of significance?
Palpatine's daughter?
Kylo Ren's daughter?
Kylo Ren's neice?
Vader's twin sister unfrozen from carbonite?
Snoke's daughter?
Snoke's mother?

I miss anything?
MattBellissimo
MattBellissimo - 12/11/2017, 9:01 AM
@GwenLantern - Snoke is her future self.

Yes. That's an actual thing.
jmorin
jmorin - 12/11/2017, 1:06 PM
@GwenLantern - "Typical JJ, if you ask me. All intrigue, no payoff."

Spot on, I say. I've been saying we won't ever find out how the hell Maz got her hands on the lightsaber. "A good question. For another time." Mmm hmmm.

Just as well I suppose. Because if it has anything to do with a hand floating through space (as was reported for TFA original opening) I do not want to know.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 12/11/2017, 2:22 PM
"We gotta think of what the audience wants,'" Hamill said. "And he'd say, 'No, we've gotta think of what we want."


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