STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER Spoilers - 4 Things That Worked And 8 Things That Didn't

STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER Spoilers - 4 Things That Worked And 8 Things That Didn't

With Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker now arriving in theaters, we're taking a closer look at the things in the movie we think worked...and those which most definitely did not! Read on for details!

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By JoshWilding - Dec 19, 2019 02:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker is receiving some of the worst reviews of the Skywalker Saga's nine-film series, and it's fair to say that it's a movie we'll be talking about for years to come. 

Some will love it, while others are going to hate it, and tha was always going to be inevitable with a finale like this. Now, we're now taking a look at both sides of the argument by delving into what did and didn't work in J.J. Abrams' last chapter in this long-running franchise. Needless to say, that means we're going to be touching on major spoilers and plot points from the movie! 

Regardless of whether you've see it or are just curious about what to expect, there's a lot to delve into here, including The Emperor's return, some big surprises, and baffling story decisions. 

So, to check out this in-depth look at The Rise of Skywalker, hit the "View List" button below!
 

Didn't Work: Luke Skywalker's Final Message



As expected, Luke returns in The Rise of Skywalker as a Force Ghost and while he's a lot more optimistic these days (it's certainly somewhat satisfying to see him admit to being wrong in reference to The Last Jedi), his return doesn't feel anywhere near as important or inspirational as it should. 

Yes, it's cool to see him lift that X-Wing out of the ocean and it's great that he's finally serving as a mentor to Rey, but his scant few minutes of screentime don't leave a lasting impact and it's hard to imagine that those who have been upset with his portrayal in this trilogy thus far will feel any better after watching him in The Rise of Skywalker
 

Did Work: A Fitting Send Off For Carrie Fisher

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Working with only a handful of deleted scenes from The Force Awakens, Abrams successfully manages to give Carrie Fisher's General Leia the goodbye she deserved as the former Princess is able to offer some key advice to Rey while she trains her to become a Jedi.

The character's death is a tad underwhelming, but it works nicely in the context of the story and an effective flashback sequence and final appearance as a Force Ghost in the closing few minutes ensures that you'll walk away satisfied with how Leia is handled here. 
 

Didn't Work: The Supporting Cast



Are you excited to see the likes of Jannah, Zorri Bliss, and Beaumont Kin in action? Well, don't be, because they're total non-factors in The Rise of Skywalker, and both forgettable and paper thin (the same could be said about D-O and the Sith Troopers, who exist only to sell toys).

Jannah is an ex-Stormtrooper but that's pretty much all we ever get to know about her, while Bliss has a storied past with Poe Dameron that's mentioned in passing and quickly forgotten. Both characters also disappear for huge chunks of the movie and return only when it's convenient for the plot, something which proves to be in equal parts ridiculous and baffling in the case of Bliss. 
 

Did Work: Goodbye Kylo Ren, Hello Ben Solo

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After sensing the death of his mother, Kylo Ren hesitates and is struck down by Rey. She uses the Force to heal him, and it seems that a combination of Leia reaching out to him one final time and the fact that his mind has been cleansed of all that hate is what finally helps him return to the Light. 

What really pushes him away from the Dark Side, though, is a conversation with his father, Han Solo. It's a beautiful moment and a poignant return for Harrison Ford which serves as perhaps one of the best scenes in the entire film, as Ben goes to tell his father that he loves him but is interrupted with the smuggler's trademark "I know."
 

Didn't Work: The Emperor's Dumb Plan

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Visually, Emperor Palpatine looks really cool, and while we never find out how he survived that fall in the Death Star, it appears as if his body - whether it's real or cloned - is rotting away (it's almost as if he's inhabiting his own corpse with the use of the Force). Alas, what he has planned for Rey is not good and lets down The Rise of Skywalker in a major way. 

You see, the Sith live within him so he wants Rey to strike him down so he can become her and rule the Galaxy once again. it all sounds a bit silly, and why he would be so willing to die is hard to say when he's already successfully created The Final Order. His desire to restore the Empire to its former glory makes sense, though, even if it makes him just another one-dimensional baddie.
 

Didn't Work: Rey's Old (And New) Name

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As the movie unfolds, it's revealed that Rey is actually Rey Palpatine, the grandaughter of The Emperor. It's a cool revelation in some ways but also one that feels contrived and not entirely necessary. You see, Rey's parents were nobodies (her father was Palpatine's son) and they sold her because they thought she would be safer that way as they knew the villain wanted her. 

It never really sticks the landing, but even worse than that is the movie's final scene. After burying Luke and Leia's lightsabers at the Lars Homestead, an old woman - who clearly doesn't have much in the way of acting experience - asks Rey what her name is and she responds, "Rey Skywalker." It may keep the family name alive, but it's also a cringe worthy and very silly moment.
 

Did Work: A Thrilling Lightsaber Battle 



Say what you will about The Rise of Skywalker (and, as you can see, there are a lot of negatives), but the action never disappoints and whether it's thrilling aerial battles of fights on the ground, you'll definitely find yourselves getting invested in these sequences. 

A highlight, though, has to be Rey's duel with Kylo Ren on top of the Death Star's remains as the ocean rages around them. It's a tense and exciting fight which isn't quite as flashy as what we saw in the prequels, but similar enough to make fans happy.
 

Didn't Work: General Hux's Betrayal

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One of the movie's biggest issues is how many baffling creative decisions are made just for the sake of convenience. Take, for example, the reveal that General Hux is the First Order spy who has been leaking information to the Resistance. This comes out of nowhere, is poorly explained (he just wants Kylo Ren to lose!), and has no impact on the movie whatsoever.

He's revealed as a traitor and is gunned down in short order, but his actions only helped our heroes escape, something they probably could have done without his assistance based on past experience!
 

Did Work: Leia's Jedi Training

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We mentioned a cool flashback a little earlier in this post and what we were referring to was seeing a young Luke training Leia once upon a time (it turns out that she gave up her lightsaber because she had a vision of her son's death...something which happens anyway when all is said and done). 

It's something fans have been anxious to see for a while, and her lightsaber is bound to be a must-have for many when replicas finally start hitting stores. It's just a shame that we never got some similar flashbacks to shed a little more light on The Emperor's return to the land of the living. 
 

Didn't Work: Character "Deaths"

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There's one character death that works really well and that's Ben Solo. The way he sacrifices himself to save Rey is both touching and heartbreaking, and the kiss they share shows us what could have been between them had things worked out a little differently. Palpatine's lightning reflecting back on him and turning him to dust is also a nice touch, and a fitting demise for the villain. 

What doesn't work are the endless fake outs. Thought Chewbacca died when Rey inadvertently unleashed Force lightning? Nope, he was just on another ship. Did you tear up when Threepio sacrificed his memory for the mission? It's okay, R2-D2 had a handy backup! Oh, and what a shame Zorri Bliss died at the hands of The Finale Order, eh? Nah, she survived with zero explanation! 
 

Didn't Work: Forgetting The Last Jedi

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There's no denying that Rian Johnson made some big mistakes in The Last Jedi, but much of what he did - both good and bad - set the stage for a far more exciting finale than this one. His movie is referenced in many ways but also forgotten in a lot of others, and while many fans will be happy with that, it makes The Rise of Skywalker feel like a sequel only to The Force Awakens

Kelly Marie Tran's Rose may not have been well received by a certain sect of fans, but her character becomes little more than a background player here and any romance with Finn is quickly forgotten. Instead, he's back to pining over Rey and, no, there's never any resolution to that either! 
 

Didn't Work: The Knights Of Ren



There are MacGuffins galore in The Rise of Skywalker, but rather than devoting so much time to meaningless objects (but, hey, they sell them in Galaxy's Edge now, remember!), it would have benefited the movie to make The Knights of Ren more than mere background players. 

What did Ben Solo do to become known as Kylo Ren? Who are these mysterious warriors and why did they so easily turn on their leader? These are questions currently being addressed in a tie-in comic book series when they should have been answered on the big screen, and these bad guys fail to make any sort of impact on the film and aren't even cool to watch in action. 

Have you guys seen Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker yet? Do you agree or disagree with this look at the things that did and didn't work in the movie? Let us know your thoughts below!
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globaltravels
globaltravels - 12/19/2019, 3:04 AM
wow. sounds like a shit fest of a movie.
dragon316
dragon316 - 12/19/2019, 10:38 AM
@globaltravels - you will never know unless see movie yourself to decide on your Opinion not by stranger I will see it
Kman
Kman - 12/19/2019, 12:26 PM
@dragon316 - you don't listen to the critics? I don't think I've ever heard you tell us that before...
baszs
baszs - 12/19/2019, 1:31 PM
@Kman - what is the deal with all these ’fakenews’ commentaries who are judging a movie without actually seeing it.

I need to leave this site.
Kman
Kman - 12/19/2019, 1:39 PM
@baszs - in all honesty - based on the information we have in front of us - I'm judging the [frick] outta this movie right now...
GalGadot
GalGadot - 12/19/2019, 3:21 AM
Even the good sounds bad.
Darkknight23
Darkknight23 - 12/19/2019, 3:48 AM
Just throw the whole movie away
dracula
dracula - 12/19/2019, 3:55 AM
@Darkknight23 - burn the whole trilogy’s negatives, wipe the harddrives and retcon their events and leave the skywalker saga alone with the prequels (despite their faults) and the originals. Keep the other stuff, but get out if this time frame of this saga
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 12/19/2019, 5:43 AM
@Darkknight23 - Thow ALL of these Disney fan fiction movies away.
dracula
dracula - 12/19/2019, 3:52 AM
Guess some of us owe Lucas and Jake Loyd an apology now. For years you said they ruined star wars, Kennedy, Abbrams and Johnson showed it can fall so much more.

The prequels have many faults but they were a clear story, the biggest problem was dialogue
dracula
dracula - 12/19/2019, 4:07 AM
@EmperorCipher - thats for sure. I know he was bullied at school, but did it really get that bad with the older fans. I was only 3 when it came out, so i dont know.
Franshu
Franshu - 12/19/2019, 5:29 AM
@dracula - Agreed. For all their faults (namely, a terrible, terrible writing) the plot of the prequels was far bolder and more different than the sequels ever have been (and those saying that TLJ "changed Star Wars" should take a look at the prequels again and see how something that is actually different to the original looks)
Darkknight23
Darkknight23 - 12/19/2019, 6:50 AM
@dracula - Truest post here! Kathleen Kennedy said “You thought the prequels ruined Star Wars? Hold my drink...”
MrDandy
MrDandy - 12/19/2019, 9:37 AM
@dracula - As uninspired as many of the Disney films are....I'd still watch any of them over the prequels.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 12/19/2019, 3:59 AM
I've seen it.
What can i say...

@Kathleen Kennedy


Incompetence should not be rewarded and eventually... i reckon we all are gonna mock em (rightfully so!).
But truthfully...i'm just f*cking sad, man...
SW or GoT, both deserved SO much more, something better.
There was so much potential and look what they've done....
F*cking wasted it all, AAARGHHHH!!!!!! >:(

This IP...SW is different, the main Skywalker saga i mean, because...you can't afford to reboot em like Batman or Spiderman or...hell, even Terminator.
Retcons or backpedalling is the best thing you could hope for.
It's not all just about nostalgia, but the actors ARE old or getting there. We've already lost Carrie and if you ARE going to continue that saga instead of starting a fresh one of your own making, then use them...use them properly!
What's the f*cking point otherwise???

I can actually appreciate certain plot points (others f*cking sucks) but the way they go from point A to point B is...quite frankly, embarrassing.
I could say the same thing for The Last Jedi.
I hated how Luke died, but that scene itself was nice to look at.
Under different circumstances, it could've been a very powerful scene for me.
Same thing goes for the final scene of Rise of Skywalker.

I think we all can agree that the MAIN PROBLEM of this sequel trilogy is that there was no f*cking plan.

Simply put, this is NOT how you build a trilogy.

Had they given the entire trilogy to one single director, then things would've been much different and much much better.
And yeah, sure, either way, maybe there was no hope to fix certain things, but there's no doubt in my mind that the end result would've been better.
Can't be worse than this shit.

But honestly, look what Feige did with MCU.
MS almost never hired the same directors for the same trilogy but certain things where crystal clear from Day one.
Everyone knew that the story was building toward this great finale where we see our heroes fighting against Thanos.
SO you couldn't just randomly kill Cap o Tony.
Now, i don't deny that there aren't downsides to this shit, but it is what it is and the end result is worth it.

All of this just to say that it's not like you really NEED to hire the same guy over and over.
No.
You just...you know, kinda...need a simple ass plan.
Can't start treating Ep 9, NOW, like this big Avengers: Endgame type of big ass climax FinaleOfEverything1ouhorngoui23n12, it's just laughable ahahah!

Cause for all we know, they could've moved forward and ended things with ep 12 or whatever.

I'm sad, i'm pissed, and i don't even have the energy to hate em.
But then again, nowdays i'm living in this Nirvana state of mind thanks to the finale of Doomsday Clock, i just feel love for everybody ahahaha or is that the X-mas effect? :P
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 12/19/2019, 4:09 AM
@EmperorCipher
I've seen it once before. It didn't scare me enough then. It does now.
CyberBishop
CyberBishop - 12/19/2019, 5:32 AM
@Doomsday8888 - Maybe they should have let Lucas do what he intended with the final three, knowing that he can't really be pleased seeing what he created spiral down the toilet like it has.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 12/19/2019, 4:41 AM
Damn shame this is all canon now...

Time to act like it isn’t haha.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 12/19/2019, 4:50 AM
They really gave into the Reylo tumblr shit lol. This dude was a cold killer and Rey said he made her feel sick in TLJ. They really didn’t give a [frick] did they?
OptimusGrime
OptimusGrime - 12/19/2019, 4:51 AM
FRICK STAR WARS.....so glad i didnt invest energy and emotion into this threequel. Star wars has become a joke!
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 12/19/2019, 4:59 AM


12 more hours

@EmperorCipher -

FleischerSupes
FleischerSupes - 12/19/2019, 5:23 AM
The real question is how fast will they begin planning/producing a grown up 'baby Yoda' movie to try and retain whatever value this ip has left? I bet they'll incontinently spill one out in no more than two years.
Franshu
Franshu - 12/19/2019, 5:30 AM
Well, at least if this gets Kathleen Kennedy out of her current position and gets her replaced with someone with true knowledge of Star Wars, there'll be a silver lining
Kman
Kman - 12/19/2019, 6:05 AM
@Franshu - too little, too late
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 12/19/2019, 5:33 AM
Chris Terrio seems to have a skill for conflicted Protagonists having emotional conversations with memories of their passed on fathers.

❤️
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 12/19/2019, 5:50 AM
@IronGenesis - dude has some unresolved issues it seems 🤔
Kyos
Kyos - 12/19/2019, 6:24 AM
@IronGenesis - "Skill for" or "obsession with"? 🤔
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 12/19/2019, 7:05 AM
@Spidey91 - don’t we all?
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 12/19/2019, 7:24 AM
@IronGenesis - ehh...alright, fair point 😶
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