J.J. Abrams Debunks A Couple Of Theories Surrounding Rey, Kylo Ren And Leia In STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS

J.J. Abrams Debunks A Couple Of Theories Surrounding Rey, Kylo Ren And Leia In STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS

On the commentary track for the upcoming Star Wars: The Force Awakens Collector's Edition Blu-ray, director J.J. Abrams shoots down some theories surrounding the relationships between 3 key characters...

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By MarkCassidy - Nov 02, 2016 05:11 PM EST
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Source: Via Screen Rant
There are lots of theories surrounding to Rey (Daisy Ridley) in Star Wars: The Force Awakens, particularly when it comes to which other characters she might be related to or have known in the past. Though some may still turn out to be accurate, J.J. Abrams appears to have debunked at least 2 of 'em during his commentary track for the 3D Collector's Edition Blu-ray.

Because of her accelerated proficiency in force-use, it's widely believed that Rey received some type of training in the past, and was possibly even one of Luke's students along with Ben Solo. Well, if Skywalker did encounter the young Jakku native before, it wasn't in the presence of the soon-to-be Kylo Ren. "One of the new relationships that we were focusing on was between Kylo Ren and Rey," Abrams said during a key scene between the pair. "They’ve never met but he's heard of this girl."

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Also, towards the end of the movie Rey shares an embrace with General Leia after the death of Han Solo and the destruction of Starkiller Base. Some took this to mean that they had some unknown history, and that maybe Rey was even Leia's daughter (hey, we didn't come up with these!), but it turns out this was actually the first time they'd laid eyes on each other. "This moment, I think, is actually lovely and the idea that these two women who’d never met knew of each other, and they’re both Force-strong and they’re both bound by their loss and their strength," continued the director.

So there you have it: there may be a lot of things still to discover about Rey's past, but neither Kylo Ren nor Leia would seem to be directly involved. The 3D Blu-ray Collector's Edition of Star Wars: The Force Awakens will hit shelves on November 15.
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GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/2/2016, 5:33 PM
"They’ve never met but he's heard of this girl."
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/2/2016, 5:35 PM
Just stopped caring about that at this stage;


Rey;
Either her lineage matters to the plot in which case she's just a pre-chosen hero meaning whatever she does its probably destiny OR she's a random person so her lineage means nothing.

Ben Solo;
He's either going to get a redemption arc or he's going to be killed probably by either Rey or Snoke.

Snoke;
Either he's an important figure from the past such as Darth Plagueis or he's just going to wind up being an underdeveloped boss fight for Ben and Rey to team against.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/2/2016, 5:35 PM
"This moment, I think, is actually lovely and the idea that these two women who’d never met knew of each other, and they’re both Force-strong and they’re both bound by their loss and their strength,"

http://www.vulture.com/2016/03/jj-abrams-says-leias-hug-was-a-mistake.html
DerekLake
DerekLake - 11/2/2016, 6:14 PM
@ComicsBornAndBred - I'm still a little miffed about that. It was another move to inflate Rey's importance, but it also had the effect of running against the established relationships: namely, that Rey should be more concerned about Finn and Chewie should be grieving with Leia.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/2/2016, 6:25 PM
@DerekLake - I feel you. I'm of the mindset that they should've reinforced the importance of the storied relationship of Han and Cheiwe by having Leia console him. They're two individuals who were integral in Han's life.

They should've had a scene where Rey stayed with Finn as his body was moved to the med bay. She wont leave his side.

Chewie and Leia grieve with the biggest loss of their lives (aside from Alderan being blown up for Leia) and Rey grapples with almost losing this new found companion. She realizes all those years being alone on Jakuu, she finally has someone and she almost lost them.

It was obvious, as you said, that Leia hugging Rey was to escalate her significance. However it was unearned and ultimately kind of dumb.
Kman
Kman - 11/3/2016, 6:09 AM
@ComicsBornAndBred - Wasn't that one of things Abrams publicly admitted that he messed up on and wished he go back and fix it?
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/3/2016, 7:44 AM
@Kman - yup lol. Contradicting himself
Kman
Kman - 11/3/2016, 7:45 AM
@ComicsBornAndBred - too little too late JJ
Kman
Kman - 11/3/2016, 7:46 AM
@ComicsBornAndBred - I do still really like this movie though... especially after watching a prequel marathon this past weekend.
Ozymandias19
Ozymandias19 - 11/2/2016, 5:37 PM
She's a [frick]ing Kenobi, just waiting to be proven right.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/2/2016, 5:55 PM
Problem is... it was revealed ages back. Rey is a Solo.

- That is what Han discussed with Maz Kanata
- That is why Han gave her his gun
- That is why Han was so trusting of her
- That is why Snoke knows about her as he was watching Ben and Rey
- That is why she ends up running and hugging Leia at the end, as she was originally scripted to be told about Han being her father at the attack on Maz Kanata's Castle.
- That is why Luke is potentially going to trust her and join the fight, sensing that she is his sisters daughter

It is adapting an old plotline of the solo twins, Jaina Solo (Rey) and Jacen Solo (Ben). While Jacen (Ben) fell to the dark side, Jaina (Rey) despite being tempted to the dark side eventually managed to fight and kill her brother despite being heavily wounded.

It all fits together.
DarEl82
DarEl82 - 11/3/2016, 2:35 AM
@Scarilian - I like that but i also like the idea of her Being Luke's secret daughter. One he didnt find out about straight away but once he did, he assessed her potential. Realised she could become more powerful than him & her grandfather & went on to hide her from the jealous Ben when he found out & massacred the training camp begining his fall.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/3/2016, 5:43 AM
@DarEl82 -

That's the thing though, they have established her being Han and Leia's daughter as i demonstrated above.

If they alter things now by having her suddenly be Luke's secret daughter then her interactions with Han and Leia wouldn't really add-up during episode 7 and her dynamic with Ben becomes much weaker as they wouldn't be brother and sister. It would also just make her another 'chosen one' who is powerful not because she trained, but simply because of her heritage. At that point it becomes less Rey Vs Ben - but more Luke and some random woman's kid Vs Han and Leia's kid.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/2/2016, 5:41 PM
ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 11/2/2016, 5:50 PM
I really hope her backstory is satisfying, everyone expected to get it in ep 7, and then we found out we had to wait two more years, so if it's lame that will be very disappointing.

Still expecting her to be Luke's child since Kathleen Kennedy said the main episode movies of Star Wars will always focus on the "Skywalker family"
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/2/2016, 5:58 PM
@Elayem - They hyped up her backstory too much. Nothing will MATCH THE EXPECTATIONS fans have imo. It'll no doubt be disappointing as the wait has been long and I dont see Abrams and co giving us something all that unique. I mean, no offense, but look at what they did with the new TFA characters. Finn for example, while I like him, was giving a lackluster story for the most part. He was important to the plot and was a real hero born of reluctance but they could've done more with the stormtrooper story.

Snoke is immensely uninteresting so far. Only characters Im really interested in are Kylo and Poe. Rey to an extent as Ridely breaths great life into the role and she is a charming character. Finn too a bit as Boyega commits.

Idk, I think her mystery will end up being disappointing.

Her being a Skywalker isnt interesting at all imo but she most likely will be.

I think she should be the child of one of Luke's students. The SW saga is still focused on the Skywalker clan with Kylo, Luke and Leia still in the mix.
ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 11/2/2016, 6:20 PM
@ComicsBornAndBred - Before JJ negated the theory in this article, if the backstory was she was a student at Luke's temple and his child, and then sent to Jakku when Kylo went on the rampage, honestly I would have been very satisfied, it makes sense why she's so powerful and why she's abandoned, even if it would be less surprising.
I dont really need to be surprised by her backstory, just satisfied. If she's a relative no body after having her backstory be hyped for like 4 years I'll be like....really?

But yeah Snoke did nothing in ep 7, I really hope his role is expanded and he's more interesting.

Poe and Finn weren't all that interesting to me

The only characters I'm interested in now are Rey and Kylo and Luke, but that could change if ep 8 makes Snoke, Poe, and Finn more interesting.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/2/2016, 6:35 PM
@Elayem - Do an inverse of Kylo's lineage. Have her come from the sith. The darkness, but become the light. Nice contrast to Kylo who is of the light originally and was seduced by the darkness.

It creates an interesting dichotomy and reinforces how Kylo feels seduced by the light but was born from it. Have Rey seduced by the darkness maybe, but embrace the light even though she was born from the Sith.

New and interesting take on the dynamic between the light and dark.
ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 11/2/2016, 6:39 PM
@ComicsBornAndBred - That would definitely be very interesting but who would she have come from? Couldn't be Vader because then it's also Luke or Leia, couldn't be Maul because he is a different alien race. So that just leaves Palpatine right? A grandchild of Palpatine? I can dig it
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/2/2016, 6:42 PM
@Elayem - That would work. A grandchild of the Emperor. That keeps everything closely tied, just how this universe likes it haha.
ELAYEM
ELAYEM - 11/2/2016, 6:48 PM
@ComicsBornAndBred - Also I am very interested in a hero seduced to the dark side in Star Wars movies, but I just cant see Rey being a villain ever. She seems too normal and genuine. I could see it being Luke in ep 7 when that was rumored but obviously that didn't happen. Finn is much too goofy to turn. I could see Poe because Oscar Isaac is great at playing dark characters like in Drive and Ex Machina, but he isn't force sensitive
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/2/2016, 6:50 PM
@Elayem - I wouldnt turn Rey completely but have her slightly seduced. I think if Ridley can sell it, you could believe a gril of her naivete in the force, could be turned
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 11/2/2016, 8:57 PM
@ComicsBornAndBred - ...

...

...That small tree is in the foreground, but the lightsaber goes in front of it... My life is ruined...
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