Daredevil Rumored To Have "Sizable" Role In SPIDER-MAN 4; Ant-Man May Also Appear

Daredevil Rumored To Have "Sizable" Role In SPIDER-MAN 4; Ant-Man May Also Appear

We're still a long way off from Spider-Man 4, but a new rumor doing the rounds is claiming that Daredevil (Charlie Cox) is in the current iteration of the script, and Ant-Man (Paul Rudd) may also appear.

By MarkCassidy - Jan 07, 2024 06:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Tom Holland's take on Spider-Man has been joined by an older "father figure" superhero in all three of his previous solo movies, and it sounds like the trend may continue for the Webhead's upcoming fourth outing.

Though this is very much just a rumor for now, insider Daniel Richtman has heard that Daredevil (Charlie Cox) has a "sizable role" in the current draft of the Spider-Man 4 script. This is not the first time the Man Without Fear has been rumored to appear in the movie, but he may not be the only other major character to show up.

Richtman is also reporting that Marvel Studios wants another hero to step into the "Iron Man/Nick Fury/Doctor Strange" role, and Ant-Man (Paul Rudd) is the "current idea."

We're not aware that a writer had even been attached to the movie (they may well have been, but nothing has been announced), so we wouldn't put too much stock in this one just yet. That said, the Devil of Hell's Kitchen dropping by would make sense after Matt Murdock's cameo in No Way Home, but we're not so sure about the Scott Lang thing.

Even if there is some truth to this report, isn't it time to let Spidey graduate into his big-boy webs? A Daredevil team-up could work very well, but can't see fans being too overjoyed about another character being added in a mentor-like capacity.

Another recent rumor indicated that Jon Watts may not be a lock to return as director, and Marvel Studios might be eyeing Drew Goddard as a possible replacement.

Though Holland will almost certainly be back, this could be his final time playing the wall-crawler. During a recent interview, the actor said he feels that he's become too used to the "safety blanket of Spider-Man."

"I want to do things that scare me, things that make me uncomfortable. When you do what we do, you have to be comfortable with being uncomfortable. This show is a perfect example of that. Ben is consistently telling me, if you don’t commit, they won’t believe you. The reason I wasn’t committing is because I was afraid. I’ve never done anything like this before. I got so used to the Marvel machine and the safety blanket of Spider-Man, feeling like I was protected. So, doing something like this was incredibly scary, but because it was so scary, it was so fulfilling and so rewarding. Going forward, if there’s something that I feel like I can’t do, I want to do that one. Playing a sort of stupid English doofus is not what I want to do because that’s my life, right?"

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slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/7/2024, 6:32 PM
Man this scooper seems to know everything
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/7/2024, 9:44 PM
@slickrickdesigns - somehow he knows everything and nothing at the same time lol
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 1/7/2024, 6:32 PM
I'd rather see Spider-Man interact with an OG Avenger like Thor, Hawkeye or Hulk.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/7/2024, 6:50 PM
@comicfan100 - If it was going to be anyone other than DD, who would have ways to work out the dual identity, Hawkeye would be it for me and DO NOT want Antman in his next film at all. I am not a fan of Scott Lang in the MCU, never have been, but more the point don't think the character works as a mentor period as doesn't even seem to be best at being a Dad.

IF however DD and Kingpin are in the film then there is a loose connection via his show to Barton so a logic why he and probably Kate Bishop could appear. Make Clint he Fury to the young Avengers and have Peter part the team with Kate and Kamala if they are heading that path.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 1/7/2024, 8:01 PM
@Apophis71 - I mean an OG Avenger instead of Ant-Man. Daredevil can stay since I've been wanting a team-up with those two for years. But out of the 3 I mentioned, Hawkeye makes the most sense with his ties to the criminal underworld and whatnot.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/7/2024, 8:55 PM
@comicfan100 - Exactly and as I say Kingpin was in his series too so makes a ton of sense he could be part of a film featuring Kingpin, DD and Spidey.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/7/2024, 8:58 PM
@comicfan100 - For the record DO deffo want DD in SM4 against Kingpin and whatever others he brings with him as antagonists...

...was more a case of if they were having anyone else team up with DD and SM it would be Barton.
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/7/2024, 6:34 PM
Daniel Richtman?
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 1/7/2024, 6:37 PM
This guy reports a ton of stuff. What’s his success rate? Why should any of us believe it?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/7/2024, 6:57 PM
@WhatIfRickJames - MOST of it always sounds vague enough that it could never be proven false, which speaks enough volumes to me. Mostly when he has been correct it has been one of the many they are considering ones that are easy to guess correctly on a better average than him from what I have seen. This isn't to say he was ever wrong to say they were considering but hard to prove they were or were not.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/7/2024, 6:40 PM
Marvel Studios it's great to see Daredevil: Born Again joining the Ranks of Disney Plus shows like Loki, WandaVision, She-Hulk: Attorney at Law, Ms. Marvel, Moon knight at all other MCU Disney Plus shows.


McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/7/2024, 10:52 PM
@AllsGood - cough shill cough schizophrenia
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 1/7/2024, 6:40 PM
Someone put out that list, what the scoopers predicted and if they were right. Josh could get 20 [frick]ing lists out of that
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/7/2024, 6:41 PM
Daredevil cool but Ant-Man no thanks.
JonC
JonC - 1/8/2024, 1:18 PM
@marvel72 - if they want to be 'street level' then they need to drop every hero with nanotech or figure a creative reason why the technology can no longer be used... like it causes cancer... periodically melds with the body through the immune system and therefore compromises the immune system... or essentially forms something like a symbiote relationship that is ultimately harmful or takes over the host.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 1/7/2024, 6:42 PM

Spidey 4:

Daredevil. YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ant-Man. NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 1/7/2024, 6:44 PM
Im gonna shout a 100 rumours tomorrow. If just one of them turns out right, i am someone with inside information according to these posts.

Just pure scheize
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/7/2024, 6:49 PM
Spider-Man 4 we don't even have a Director yet.

marvel72
marvel72 - 1/7/2024, 7:41 PM
@AllsGood - With how the MCU is failing left, right and centre they'll move forward with a new Spider-Man movie pretty quickly, it's guaranteed money.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/7/2024, 9:01 PM
@marvel72 -
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/7/2024, 9:17 PM
@AllsGood - Fantasy Island where the movies are good.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 1/7/2024, 9:54 PM
@AllsGood -
I don't think we'll get a Spider-man 4 prior to 2028.

2024: Madame Web, Kraven the Hunter, Venom 3
2025: Beyond the Spider-verse
2026: Sony Universe Spider-man Event Film (Featuring Tom Holland)
2027: Avengers 5
2028: Avengers 6

If a Spider-man 4 were to ever happen it'd have to be after Avengers 6, as they'd no doubt want Spider-man to gain the black suit for marketing purposes during Secret Wars (Also comic reference) and the previous film teased Venom as the focal point of a fourth film.

Sony have no real incentive also, their Sony Cinematic Universe appears to be ending other than a singular event movie they announced which will likely end up being Sinister Six or some sorta multiverse film.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/8/2024, 4:08 AM
@Scarilian - If it's after Secret Wars it should be Spider-Man 1.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/8/2024, 4:09 AM
@Scarilian - But I think after Tom Holland and Secret Wars, they should leave it alone for a little while and let Sony fail all on their own to drive down the value of the Spider-Man/Sony franchise. Then buy it back somehow.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 1/7/2024, 6:54 PM
I could see an Ant Man cameo that makes sense, but if Rudd is thrown in as ongoing comedic relief throughout the film, that will suck. 🤔
Vigor
Vigor - 1/7/2024, 7:02 PM
@Izaizaiza - what if he's like how he was in Endgame? He was arguably the map and very serious about saving the world
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 1/7/2024, 7:48 PM
@Vigor - could work! That's a movie that I wish we're showing up a little sooner
Vigor
Vigor - 1/7/2024, 7:58 PM
@Izaizaiza - I meant mvp but seems like you knew what I meant haha
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 1/7/2024, 11:16 PM
@Vigor - We all have to speak bad voice to text in this day and age 😅
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 1/7/2024, 6:55 PM
I guess Ant-Man's a street level crook gone hero so he has ties to the streets???

Yeah [frick] that. lol Give us more Matt Murdock! Or introduce Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
RedFury
RedFury - 1/7/2024, 6:57 PM
Seems strange to make Ant-Man Spideys mentor when he should probably be mentoring his own daughter.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/7/2024, 7:01 PM
Scoopers say the same things over and over in different ways
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 1/7/2024, 7:02 PM
Give poor Paul Rudd a break, and bench Ant-Man for like two decades.🤣 I promise you, fans won't even realize that he's missing.🤣
BruceWayng
BruceWayng - 1/7/2024, 7:07 PM
I’m usually of the mindset that it’s time for Hollands Spiderman to get his own solo adventure in NYC, just being the Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman version we have yet to see…BUUUUUT…. Im 1 million percent on board with DD popping for a breif cameo or a larger, more substantial role as long as he doesn’t take the focus off of Spidey.

I’ve always like the idea of DD being somewhat of a role model and showing Spiderman the ropes in terms of how to handle being a street level hero. I could definitely see Peter having a hard time dealing with not being able to save everybody and stop every crime/bad guy. I think it would be a cool part of his story to learn how to be a crime fighter and not a superhero.

Who better than Matt to showing him how to make that transition and he can also help exposition wise of the whole Devil’s Reign/Kingpib storyline is being adopted.

Bonus points if they include a super extended swinging scene with some POV shot(not that kind you perverts) and a scene where Matt/DD introduces Spiderman to other street level NYC hero’s like the Netflix characters and maybe even some new ones like Night Thrasher and a Streep level version of the New Warriors, White Tiger and a redo on Moon Knight or Mr Knight
Jefferys
Jefferys - 1/7/2024, 7:24 PM
@BruceWayng - I'm with ya, I wouldn't mind some kind of mash up and strong influence from how they met and teamed up in the 90s animated show and what they did in the original Ultimate Spider-man run with that kind of Marvel Kngights. Where all the street level heroes teamed up to take down Kingpin. We pretty much have that team all introduced too, although I suppose with this rumour they have going on, you could have Ant-man take on the role of Doctor Strange in that group.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/8/2024, 4:16 AM
@BruceWayng - This.

If the only reason they want Ant Man is to have someone in the mentor role, well duh! Daredevil is the adult dark urban superhero. Spider-Man is the young urban superhero. There's your mentor you wily [frick]s! Daredevil!

If they want someone to lighten the movie and add a little levity to the proceedings, it could be someone his own age, like Iceman or Johnny Storm.
Jefferys
Jefferys - 1/7/2024, 7:16 PM
I don't know about anyone else but does this feel like they're trying to do a retread on Quantumania now that the Fantastic Four are back in Marvel's hands and now they don't really know what to do with Scott. I mean this would have been a perfect set up in Ant-Man 3 as to having Scott kinda start wondering who is going to protect the little guys now that the Avengers aren't around. They never really have established that post-no Avengers fear at all, now that there isn't any singular group to protect the planet. Honestly, this should have been a time when multiple groups started forming in the name of the Avengers ie Midnight Sons/Suns, Champions (more in line with the current run), some form of the (616) Ultimates.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/8/2024, 4:14 AM
@Jefferys - They really should have killed him in Quantumania like they were gonna do. It would have made the movie more successful at the same time as setting Kang up as a true big bad. The stakes would be real and we would feel like, holy shit if any Avengers go up against this guy they actually could die.
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 1/7/2024, 7:16 PM
I think we've seen enough Ant-Man. Less is more.
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 1/7/2024, 7:17 PM
Yeah, this rumour has been around for a couple of weeks now.
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