MADAME WEB Producer Says Lack Of SPIDER-MAN Connections "Freed" Movie From That "Obligation"

MADAME WEB Producer Says Lack Of SPIDER-MAN Connections "Freed" Movie From That "Obligation"

Cassandra Web is a character who debuted in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man, but for Madame Web producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura, it was a relief to be "freed" from the wall-crawler in the panned movie...

By JoshWilding - Feb 19, 2024 08:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Madame Web
Source: Collider

Madame Web arrived in theaters last Wednesday and the movie has since taken a mauling from fans and critics alike. Whether Sony Pictures will take note remains to be seen, but it's almost certainly too late to make sweeping changes to Kraven the Hunter and Venom 3

In some respects, it's a relief that the critically panned Marvel Comics adaptation doesn't involve any of the beloved live-action Spider-Men in any way. However, it's also disappointing given "Cassie" Webb's ties to the web-slinger on the page, and even more baffling that the story doesn't appear to take place in the same reality as the one inhabited by Venom and Morbius. 

Talking to Collider, Madame Web producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura addressed the decision to leave Spidey on the shelf for yet another movie set in his corner of the Marvel Universe. 

"Before I was involved there was a script, and before S.J. was involved as well. Both of us really saw the advantage in not having the burden of the attachment of all this other stuff that has gone on. You'd be silly to think you don't pay some homage to it and some acknowledgement, which we do, but it really freed us in a way to tell a pure story, I think. And so, for both of us, that allowed us to get into what I love about Dakota's journey."

"It's not just simply, 'Well, I'm gonna stand up and become the hero.' It's, 'I'm scarred. I don't want attachment. I definitely don't want responsibility for these three people. What the hell is happening to me? I'm going insane.' And then, 'What do I do now that I'm in this situation?' So, for me, freeing ourselves from that obligation, in a sense, was very freeing and allowed us to do a more complex ride with the hero."

It's interesting that Bonaventura mentions there being a script before both he and Clarkson boarded the movie because the filmmaker made similar comments during our recent conversation (which you can watch in the player below). 

Clarkson made it clear she didn't even choose Britney Spears' "Toxic' for that memorable needle drop in the diner, suggesting she was very much a director-for-hire on Madame Web. Despite that, speculation continues to run rampant that there came a point where references to Spider-Man were taken out of the screenplay.

Early on, we heard that Ezekiel Simms planned to kill Mary Parker in a bid to stop Peter Parker from ever being born. That would have directly impacted the three Spider-Women's respective futures, explaining why they were pulled into the story. 

Madame Web still features Mary and even makes her paramedic brother-in-law, Ben Parker, Cassie's work colleague. While Peter is born, he's never named and there are no connections to other Sony Marvel movies (in fact, everyone involved seems to have made an effort to bill Madame Web as "standalone" in the weeks building up to its release in a bid to temper expectations).

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Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 2/19/2024, 8:27 AM
Lol okay then.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/19/2024, 8:28 AM
Any news yet on a sequel?
TheLight
TheLight - 2/19/2024, 8:31 AM
@harryba11zack -
TheLight
TheLight - 2/19/2024, 8:30 AM
Conquistador
Conquistador - 2/19/2024, 8:31 AM
lol, it "freed" up all the seats in all the screenings!
Gmoney84
Gmoney84 - 2/19/2024, 8:36 AM
@UniqNo - this is the one, right here.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 2/19/2024, 8:41 AM
@Gmoney84 - lol!

I mean if they didn't want any connection to the spider-verse etc why call the [frick]ing movie after a Marvel Character in the spider-man mythos! dumb dumbs.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 2/19/2024, 8:34 AM
Yes, webs usually denote
disconnectedness ..... as do clairvoyant Madames.......
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 2/19/2024, 8:35 AM
@ProfessorWhy - if it's not a Spider-man movie, does it count as a contract extender?
RedSkullBeats
RedSkullBeats - 2/19/2024, 8:34 AM
By “freed the movie”, they mean “hindered the movie”.
Unless they mean they freed the Spider-Man franchise from being associated with MW. That makes more sense.
santoanderson
santoanderson - 2/19/2024, 8:42 AM
Wow, Sony is spinning hard.

They originally filmed the movie to be a prequel to the Andrew Garfield movies, and halfway through filming they changed it to Tom Holland, which created its own headaches time/continuity/set-dressing wise. And after all that Sony and Marvel probably sat down and watched the movie and said “This is terrible” and chose to yank all the Spider-Man/Peter Parker references. And now Lorenzo di Bonaventura is claiming Peter Parker was never in the film?
Order66
Order66 - 2/19/2024, 8:52 AM
Why fans support Sony is beyond me.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 2/19/2024, 9:04 AM
@Order66 - Sony walked so Marvel could sh1t.
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 2/19/2024, 9:30 AM
@Order66 - they made the best 2 Spider-Man movies. Granted that was the animation department but still
Order66
Order66 - 2/19/2024, 9:43 AM
@Twenty23Three - yes outside of that and Raimi 1-2, Sony has been shit. Holland trilogy has been successful because of Disney/Marvel so I don’t give Sony any credit for that.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/19/2024, 9:02 AM
Lack of Spider Women ruined the movie. I went in to watch Spider girls vs Spider villain and all I got was 90’s scary movie logic beating an undefeatablebad guy Spider-Man. It was just boring to watch.
ninerstreet
ninerstreet - 2/19/2024, 9:03 AM
By Sony making it, it freed it from the obligation of being watchable. They will never learn.
Fogs
Fogs - 2/19/2024, 9:25 AM
This is the same dude who said the character doesn't have a backstory in the comics?

Anyway, it also freed the film of viewers, bravo.
Forthas
Forthas - 2/19/2024, 9:28 AM
What happens when incompetent greedy studios happen to great beloved IPs.
Reginator
Reginator - 2/19/2024, 9:29 AM
it freed the movie from making a lot of money
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 2/19/2024, 10:26 AM
Stupid people make stupid movies.
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 2/19/2024, 10:29 AM
This sh*t is beyond pathetic. Film. after film Sony shoehorns in pathetic villain spin-offs that lead to nowhere. All of these characters are ties to spiderman and not including him in the films makes them successful? Just say you need the money.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 2/19/2024, 11:09 AM
Yes, let's free the movie about Spider-Man characters from the burden of being Spider-Man characters.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 2/19/2024, 11:13 AM
So we call this Stockholm Syndrome and I hope Lorenzo is able to finally break free.
Spoken
Spoken - 2/19/2024, 11:27 AM
Another day. another out of touch producer.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/19/2024, 11:40 AM
For some reason it still had Ben and Mary Parker, while neither really had a need to be there. Think Ezekiel going after an unborn Peter would've been so much better. There is a connection, so just lean into it next time

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