RUMOR: It Sounds Like Marvel Studios And Sony Are Also Butting Heads Over SPIDER-MAN 4's Release Date

RUMOR: It Sounds Like Marvel Studios And Sony Are Also Butting Heads Over SPIDER-MAN 4's Release Date

There have been rumblings for weeks that Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures might be at loggerheads over Spider-Man 4, and it appears the movie's release date is also proving a problem. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Feb 18, 2024 06:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

It's now been more than two years since Spider-Man: No Way Home saved theaters, but there are still no definitive signs of Spider-Man 4 being on the horizon. 

While we know the movie is in the works at Marvel Studios, there have been rumblings lately that they and Sony Pictures are clashing over what direction the wall-crawler should head in. The former is said to want a street-level story which pairs Spidey up with Daredevil for a battle with The Kingpin, while the latter hopes to reunite the three Spider-Men - Tom Holland, Andrew Garfield, and Tobey Maguire - for another reality-hopping adventure.

Seeing as Madame Web has just bombed and Spider-Man: No Way Home grossed just shy of $2 billion in 2021, we're not exactly surprised Sony is pushing for the latter. However, it now appears as if the release date is also causing problems. 

According to scooper @CanWeGetToast, Sony is pushing for a 2025 release; Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige, however, is already stretched thin and would be unable to contribute to the movie in any meaningful way if that goes ahead. 

After all, Thunderbolts, The Fantastic Four, and Captain America: Brave New World are all currently slated for next year along with Blade. Then, there are the Disney+ TV shows like Daredevil: Born Again and Ironheart which seemingly need a lot of help to reach the finish line. 

It's been said that Sony wants Spider-Man 4 in theaters by June 25, 2025 but that they might compromise and push it to next Christmas if they have to. That makes more sense following reports of production beginning early next year. 

It's hard not to be a little concerned after reading this. More Spider-Man sooner rather than later would be a good thing, but Marvel Studios' idea seems to be to release this fourth instalment in 2026 as a direct lead-in to Avengers: The Kang Dynasty (where the wall-crawler will be a lead character). 

Interestingly, there are also rumblings online that the Multiversal aspect we're hearing so much about will be to insert Aaron Taylor-Johnson's Kraven the Hunter into the story somehow; here's hoping his movie is better than it currently looks. 

"All I can say is that we have been actively engaging in conversations about what it could potentially look like for a fourth rendition of my character," Holland said of his Spider-Man future last November. "Whether or not we can find a way to do justice to the character is another thing."

"I feel very protective over Spider-Man," he continued. "I feel very, very lucky that we were able to work on a franchise that got better with each movie, that got more successful with each movie, which I think is really rare, and I want to protect his legacy. So, I won’t make another one for the sake of making another one. It will have to be worth the while of the character."

Stay tuned for more on Spider-Man 4 as we have it.

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Spidey91
Spidey91 - 2/18/2024, 6:43 AM
Sony being Sony.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 2/18/2024, 6:47 AM
Feige at the next investor meeting after the 2 years of hell he’s had to endure…
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/18/2024, 7:03 AM
Just bring Bob Iger in and let him whip his big money dick out on the table and say "Spider-Man's ours now. Go buy yourself a new dress".
Blergh
Blergh - 2/18/2024, 7:14 AM
@ObserverIO - why would Sony sell the most profitable IP they own? Even if Disney was at it's peak they couldn't buy Spidey off of Sony. What makes you think they could do so now?
Sony won't let go of Spidey, the failures of the other movies only goes to show that they need the actual Spider-Man in their movies.
Origame
Origame - 2/18/2024, 7:27 AM
@ObserverIO - considering how much money disney has been losing recently and the fact no way home made near $2 bil, how exactly is that gonna happen?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/18/2024, 7:53 AM
@Blergh - @Origame - Because of Bob Iger's big money dick.

Bob Iger has a very large penis made entirely out of money. He doesn't mind taking some of that money off his dick and giving it to people for IP. Muppets, Marvel, Fox, Pixar, Lucasfilm, etc. etc.

Whether it's gotta be Spider-Man or Sony they buy, Marvel really needs to get control of their own characters again. Spider-Man belong with Marvel. Sony are trashing the brand with their SPUMC movies. Three this year!

Also, yes, Spider-Man is a very lucrative franchise for them. NWH made almost 2 billion. BECAUSE OF MARVEL STUDIOS!

Without Marvel Sony ain't got shit.

It's time they stopped making money for Sony and instead paid them off for good. You've got to cut the gordian cord with these kinda people. They're always gonna be a problem (myriad disparate problems in fact) for Marvel unless Bobby the bossman steps in and makes them go away.

Bobby the Bossman and his very large penis made entirely out moolah.
Origame
Origame - 2/18/2024, 8:07 AM
@ObserverIO - thats highly debatable. Especially considering no way home was as successful as it was from legacy characters made by Sony and marvel has been struggling even harder recently than Sony.

Quite frankly, I think them working together is the best thing for this franchise. We've seen what disney did to Thor.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/18/2024, 8:23 AM
@Origame - Yeah they turned it into a joke from an old '80s movie into a massive worldwide franchise.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/18/2024, 8:23 AM
@Origame - Made an international superstar out of Chris Hemsworth too.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 2/18/2024, 8:45 AM
@ObserverIO - i disagree on the "because of marvel studios" comment.

Thank the pandemic (scamdemic depending on your perspective) and the earlier spider-man films for that. And the MCU didnt even reach 1B after the pandemic. Even with MoM with a similar multiverse story and coming right after nwh.
Origame
Origame - 2/18/2024, 8:56 AM
@ObserverIO - ...but this is modern mcu. It's back to being a joke, just without the 80s movie.
Origame
Origame - 2/18/2024, 8:56 AM
@ObserverIO - again, not current mcu.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/18/2024, 9:20 AM
@vectorsigma - MoM made money too. there are only 6 movies that made 2 billy, three of them are James Cameron movies, one of them is The Force Awakens and the other two are MCU movies. Coming up on it's tail is NWH, another MCU movie.

You can say that this was due to old Sony characters, but if it hadn't been grounded in a universe that everybody loved that consistently had billion dollar grossing movies then it would have probably been as successful as The Flash. Imagine a movie where instead of Tom Holland's Spider-Man, it's Tom Hardy's Venom that goes on an advernture with Maguire and Garfield. Wouldn't have hit as hard. No not even because of Garfield. Remember The Flash had Michael Keaton's Batman in it.

Sony teamed up with Marvel to make money. Marvel made them money.

Anything contrary is retroactive history. It's obvious what happened.

Get the guys who makes billions to creatively oversee your movie and then it just happens to make close to 2 billion. Oh what a coincidence. And Far From Home made $1.132 billion. Sony had never come close to breaking a billion with Spider-Man before Marvel Studios came along.
Timerider
Timerider - 2/18/2024, 10:05 AM
@Blergh - they lost a lot of money with Madame Webb, they might be desperate and cut a deal with Marvel. I think they wanted 10 billion for him. They could give them 5 billion and certain profits off Spidey until the debt is paid off. But, seeing how they are trying to cut cost at Disney, that may not happen, but it is a possibility.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/18/2024, 7:04 AM
If Sony wanted it out ASAP, they probably had cameras rolling already. Christmas of this year would've been perfect, as there is no other major release beside Mufasa at that time.

I think they should aim for a July or December 2026 release instead. It might stand a chance against Star Wars in December of that year, but no way is it taking on Avatar 3 next year.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 2/18/2024, 7:54 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Sony probably won’t budge on both not having a July 2025 date and a spiderverse movie. Marvel is going to have to give up one of those.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/18/2024, 9:43 AM
@Taonrey - I don't know what the state is of Beyond the Spider-Verse, but if that's delayed to next year I could see them be okay with MCU Spider-Man being a year later
Taonrey
Taonrey - 2/18/2024, 2:13 PM
@bkmeijer1 - my bad by spiderverse I meant a movie with Andrew, Tobey and Tom.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/18/2024, 2:38 PM
@Taonrey - oh yeah, gotcha. I doubt we'll see a Spider-Verse movie with those three, given they're probably already gonna interact again in Secret Wars anyway I bet
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 2/18/2024, 7:06 AM
We have the mutants now, let Sony have their bug boy back atp.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/18/2024, 8:04 AM
They both need to release a Spider-Man movie,it's guaranteed dollar for both of them.

And their recent movies aren't making money.
Timerider
Timerider - 2/18/2024, 10:17 AM
@marvel72 - not necessarily, do you remember Sam Raimi’s Spider-man 3? Avi Arad stuck his nose in pushed to have Venom in the movie, that ruined Sandman’s story with his daughter and fleshing out his story more.

It really depends on the script, it’s not a billion dollar movie guaranteed.

There also might be scheduling conflicts with Dune part 3 that Sony and Marvel may have to address.
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 2/18/2024, 8:17 AM
All Sony has to do, is choose a Peter Parker.🤣 I assume Tobey and Andrew wouldn't be interested in continuing on long-term. So Sony could just cast an their own Peter, and do whatever they want. Sony and Marvel forcing themselves to work together, is so dumb.
S8R8M
S8R8M - 2/18/2024, 8:36 AM
Well there is probably a reason why the MCU deleted him from history. Just to keep Sony at a arms length.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 2/18/2024, 9:06 AM

Sony execs: How can we furk this up and kill the golden goose?

Mickey the Rat: Geez, I am so sick of these Sony d!ckheads.

bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/18/2024, 9:47 AM
STOP RUSHING INTO PRODUCTION! The suits only want money for the shareholders, well guess what you dumb [frick]s.. you need a good movie to make money! Who gives af, cbm's are like 20% of the entire movie ecosystem. Let them fail
Armpitwebs
Armpitwebs - 2/18/2024, 10:08 AM
Marv should do the following:
1. Drop Spider-Man for a few years, let Sony implode.
2. Have Disney buy the Sony scraps (or let Spider-Man revert to them when Apple buys Sony.)
3. In 2030, do a new Spidey reboot without Sony buffoonery.
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