RUMOR: Marvel Scrapped Plans For SPIDER-MAN 4 To Feature The Sinister Six As Focus Shifts To [SPOILER]

RUMOR: Marvel Scrapped Plans For SPIDER-MAN 4 To Feature The Sinister Six As Focus Shifts To [SPOILER]

According to a new rumour, one early idea for Spider-Man 4 featured Tom Holland's web-slinger doing battle with the Sinister Six! Find more details on that, and where things sand with the script, here...

By JoshWilding - Dec 26, 2024 12:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

In Spider-Man: No Way Home, the MCU's Peter Parker did battle with Multiversal villains, the Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Electro, Sandman, and The Lizard. 

Unfortunately, that ragtag group never got a sixth member even though Venom was once considered (concept art has also shown scrapped scenes featuring The Vulture and Mysterio). That was a missed trick on Marvel Studios' part, though we've long suspected it was to save the villainous team for a Sony Pictures project or...Spider-Man 6, perhaps?

According to scooper @BeyondReporter, an early version of Spider-Man 4 featured the Sinister Six. There's no word on who would make up the team or why Marvel Studios and Sony ultimately decided against it. 

The leaker adds that the movie "still doesn't have a script" and claims this is why it's now evolved into a story featuring Mephisto and Ghost Rider. If accurate, then it explains why there have been so many conflicting rumours about everyone from Ant-Man to Daredevil and Venom. 

Earlier this week, @MyTimeToShineH didn't mince her words when she said, "They're having problems with the script. They had a draft that Tom Holland really liked but he has no taste, and Kevin Feige, who actually does, thought it was bad so now they're rewriting it and changing everything. The script isn’t ready yet and won’t be for a while."

Honestly, we'd take all of this with a pinch of salt until the trades chime in because Spider-Man 4 is a hot topic and rumours like these are likely to become more prevalent until something official is revealed.

If the focus has shifted to Mephisto, then we'd bet on Peter Parker perhaps being offered the chance to reclaim his old life in exchange for making a deal with the devil. A team-up with Ghost Rider would be something different for Spidey, though we still don't know whether that will be the Nicolas Cage Variant or the MCU's take on the Spirit of Vengeance. 

"I read it three weeks ago and it really lit a fire in me," Holland said of the script during a recent podcast appearance, somewhat disputing the claims above. "Zendaya and I sat down and read it together and we at times were like bouncing around the living room."

"Like this is a real movie worthy of the fans’ respect, but there [are] a few things we need to figure out before we can get that really going. But it’s exciting and I’m really, really excited about it."

Spider-Man 4 has been officially dated for July 26, 2026 with Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton helming a script penned by Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers.

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TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 12/26/2024, 12:14 PM
I think the biggest issue going on behind the scenes is that there are too many cooks in the kitchen with too different view points regarding what's best for the character's future.
SorceresSupreme
SorceresSupreme - 12/26/2024, 12:18 PM
@TheJok3r - yeah spiderman's IP is currently as big as it has ever been and no one involved wants to let go of it
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/26/2024, 12:24 PM
@TheJok3r - that describes most of the problems at the major studios. Notice how Gunn's Superman, while perhaps flawed, doesn't suffer from inertia. Gunn ran with the script fairly quickly and went right to shooting.
Timerider
Timerider - 12/26/2024, 12:29 PM
@TheJok3r - the issue is trying to fit it in between two Avengers films. It’s trying to start from where he is left off at the end of Doomsday and end it just before Secret Wars begins. It has to make sense, and he’s going through all these emotions and it’s just trying to connect A to B, and B to C and so forth. It would be easier to make Spider-man 4 after Secret Wars, so you can start fresh and not be tied to other things going on between Avengers Doomsday and Secret Wars.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 12/26/2024, 1:02 PM
@Timerider - Another thing they could do is what Ant Man 2 did; set it before the Avengers movies with only the post-credits scene being set between.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/26/2024, 2:30 PM
@Timerider - I think they should have Spider-Man 4 be set before Doomsday, similar to Ant-Man amd the Wasp & Infinity War.

Just because it releases after, doesn't mean can take place before. Black Widow and Captain Marvel did it as well.
Order66
Order66 - 12/26/2024, 12:17 PM
1. MCUs version of Ghost Rider. [frick] Cages version.

2. Story should be street level

3. Let Feige cook and stop interfering
Typhoon20
Typhoon20 - 12/27/2024, 7:47 AM
@Order66 - The same Feige that F* the MCU? He gave us multiverse of madness.
DrFake
DrFake - 12/26/2024, 12:21 PM
Stop reporting the fake ass tweets of "MyTimeToShineH"
WakandaTech
WakandaTech - 12/26/2024, 12:25 PM
is this so difficult

I mean com on!


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TheShellyMan
TheShellyMan - 12/26/2024, 12:26 PM
Yeah, re-do the script. Spider-Man 4 sounds bloated and it doesn't need to be...
Matchesz
Matchesz - 12/26/2024, 12:26 PM
Kinda crazy to think with all the different writers Spidermans had over the years that made him popular and ultimately it all really comes down to Feige and Holland on what they think a good spiderman story should be.
RolandD
RolandD - 12/26/2024, 12:32 PM
@Matchesz - If this scoop has any truth to it, and I have my doubts, you can scratch Holland’s name from that comment.
Corruptor
Corruptor - 12/26/2024, 8:50 PM
@Matchesz - One just had the pyjamas, and the other's voice hasn't even broken yet, we're DOOMED!
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 12/26/2024, 12:29 PM
This is the issue I was talking about since No Way Home. Sony/MCU rushed so many characters into that film that honestly served no purpose besides Goblin. If we could've just held off for a film like that for Spider-Man 4 and actually were able to utilize Kraven and Chameleon for Spider-Man 3 you'd have at least three members of your Sinister 6 roster that wouldn't have felt crammed in at this point.

Think about it, besides Vulture, Shocker, Mysterio we still have yet to have any new faces in THIS MCU version of Spider-Man. Devil's Reign was such an obvious choice for a storyline. (Despite me being disappointed with this whole multiverse fiasco, you still could've had Kingpin form a roster of newer members to hunt down vigilantes (Rhino, Scorpion, Kraven) and had the film end with both Daredevil and Spider-Man going up against Kingpin.

Spider-Man 5 could've been the Sympiote saga Venom vs. Spider-Man film featuring side characters like Lizard or Morbius

Spider-Man 6 could've been a two parter finale with Peter giving up the symbiote in the first half and taking on the sinister 6 formed by MCU Doc Ock (Doc Ock, Kraven, Vulture, Shocker, Rhino and Electro) and Part 2 could've featured the MCU goblin vs. Spider-Man.

But instead, we're struggling with a script that will accommodate Hollamd and Zendaya's romance (One More Day anyone? Mephisto etc) instead of Peter's actual character arc. It's not that hard yall...DAMN!
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 12/26/2024, 1:56 PM
@TheRationalNerd - You are living up to your name Bub. Excellent 👉 👈 👇🏽 💯 ‼️
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/26/2024, 2:28 PM
@TheRationalNerd - yeah, there's so many better ways to go about. My ideal trilogy would be:

Spider-Man 4: Spider-Man & Daredevil vs Kingpin & Scorpion and Black Cat as wildcard
Spider-Man 5: Spider-Man vs Kraven, Agent Venom and Mr. Negative
Spider-Man 6: Peter & Miles vs a Sinister Six of MCU-native villains.

I prefer they leave the multiverse out of it altogether and have the Spider-Men reunite in Secret Wars.
RolandD
RolandD - 12/26/2024, 12:30 PM
“But he has no taste.” True or not, that’s rude. MTTSH just lost more points with me. We’ll be venturing into negative numbers soon. 😂
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 2:14 PM
@RolandD - lol I know right?

Why did they have to shade Tom Holland like that…

Like his career outside of Spider Man hasn’t been great but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have taste (which is subjective anyway).

Dudes working on a Christopher Nolan film and is dating Zendaya so I would call those good taste
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 12/26/2024, 12:31 PM
"Honestly, we'd take all of this with a pinch of salt"

Thank you for being honest about this. I have salt in the kitchen so I'll go get me a pinch.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 12/26/2024, 1:58 PM
@TheFinestSmack - 😆, I get it!


... you are "Batistadrax".
BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 12/26/2024, 12:34 PM
The free attack on Tom Holland was fun
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 12/26/2024, 12:41 PM
It’s not a ghost rider story
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 12:54 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - yeah

I don’t see them introducing the MCU GR in Spider Man of all things.

Maybe there is Mephisto involvement since him offering Peter his old life back in exchange for something seems plausible but I still don’t buy it
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/26/2024, 2:32 PM
@TheVisionary25 @ShimmyShimmyYA - Ghost Rider has no place in it. I could see it happen the other way around though, or maybe even have Spider-Man be part of the Midnight Sons and fight Mephisto with Ghost Rider in that.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 12/26/2024, 10:08 PM
@bkmeijer1 - more reliable people than her have said it’s not a ghost rider story. I gotta go with them
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/27/2024, 1:40 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - I don't even think it requires supposed inside info to know this is bullcrap. No report makes sense or sounds believable imo
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 12/27/2024, 12:05 PM
@bkmeijer1 - that too lol what the hell is a Mephisto storyline doing here except redoing one more day which we just had a weird adaptation of
Polaris
Polaris - 12/26/2024, 1:04 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Yeah, it's getting very tiresome. Maybe when they cast someone we'll finally know who the villain will be or what type of story we can expect.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 12:58 PM
I still would love a street level story personally with Peter dealing with being Spider Man pretty much all the time & trying to rebuild his life while dealing with a villain…

Perhaps a Mr Negative or Hobgoblin?.

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ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 12/26/2024, 12:59 PM
Meh. I like the idea they were floating around for a Sinister Six heist movie years ago.
Polaris
Polaris - 12/26/2024, 1:01 PM
"They had a draft that Tom Holland really liked but he has no taste" lmao

All I want is a non-multiversal story, no more Tobey and Andrew yet and no Venom.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 1:03 PM
@Polaris - same.

I didn’t mind them exploring going international or doing the Multiverse in relation to Spidey since it has precedent but it would be nice to go back to more smaller scale like HC then going bigger if you even can
Polaris
Polaris - 12/26/2024, 1:11 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Yep, it's time and it's what it seemed they wanted to do after how NWH ended. Peter on his own, with his homemade suit, meeting new people, going to college and having a job.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 1:14 PM
@Polaris - could he even get a job if there’s history of him existing?

Anyway yeah , that seemed to be the intention but who knows

I guess they might think after the challenges this Peter has faced that him going back to street level might be too low stakes for a film which I disagree with but oh well
Polaris
Polaris - 12/26/2024, 1:32 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Maybe they think that, but more of the same would be boring. I think most people were happy with how things ended so the reception of a more grounded story would be positive. Even more if someone like Daredevil is in it.

But did the spell erase everything? Idk I think his own documents still exists, but maybe things that could make people remember him (like pictures together) do not.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 1:53 PM
@Polaris - I agree

He was trying to get his GED at the end of NWH so I’m assuming his high school paperwork and records no longer exist aswell
Polaris
Polaris - 12/26/2024, 2:34 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Oh right, that makes sense. But to get that he would also need some document to prove who he is, right? I'm not american so I don't know how that works, but I assume he would have some ID at home as a starting point to rebuild a life. He can't go to his school and ask for anything, but his things, like his memories, could still exist.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 2:37 PM
@Polaris - they could

I kinda hope they get into all that tbh.
Polaris
Polaris - 12/26/2024, 2:49 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Me too.
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