SPIDER-MAN 4: Adil El Arbi And Bilall Fallah Address Directing Rumors And Tease Bringing Back The Vulture

SPIDER-MAN 4: Adil El Arbi And Bilall Fallah Address Directing Rumors And Tease Bringing Back The Vulture

Ms. Marvel directors Adil El Arbi and Bilall Fallah are rumoured to be in the running to helm Spider-Man 4, and the filmmakers have chimed in on those and their hopes to work with Michael Keaton again.

By JoshWilding - Jun 01, 2024 04:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: ComicBook.com

Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures' hunt for a Spider-Man 4 director continues, with Bad Boys: Ride or Die helmers Adil El Arbi and Bilall Fallah now rumoured to be in the running for the job. 

They previously worked with Marvel Studios on Ms. Marvel after directing the premiere and finale of the critically acclaimed Disney+ series. They then made the leap to the DCEU to direct Batgirl, only for the near-completed movie to be scrapped as a tax write-off by Warner Bros. Discovery.

Talking to ComicBook.com, El Arbi and Fallah addressed the Spider-Man 4 rumours head-on. 

"It came out of nowhere, because we've got the Sony bosses here, and they didn't tell us anything!" El Arbi joked before Fallah chimed in to say, "I'm a superfan of Spider-Man, so you can imagine, when I was reading that, I was like, 'Whoa - that would be cool.'" 

The duo worked with Spider-Man: Homecoming star Michael Keaton on Batgirl after he reprised his role as Batman (in a post-The Flash DCEU, he'd have permanently replaced Ben Affleck as the Dark Knight). 

When the site suggested they could bring him back as The Vulture in Spider-Man 4, the filmmakers agreed it was a good idea. Adil joked, "We're going to bring Michael Keaton in everything now."

The MCU's Peter Parker first squared off with Adrian Toomes/The Vulture in Spider-Man: Homecoming. The villain, who had a grudge against Iron Man, figured out Spidey's secret identity and pushed the wall-crawler to his limit before ultimately being defeated. 

Last November, it was reported that Michael Keaton is being lined up to return as The Vulture in Spider-Man 4 (he'd been eyed for a role in Spider-Man: No Way Home but was cut for reasons which still aren't entirely clear). 

The Vulture's possible MCU return comes as a surprise seeing as Morbius featured his bizarre and unexpected arrival in the "Spider-Verse" that Venom calls home. Stranded on the wrong planet, The Vulture was freed from captivity, rebuilt his suit, and decided to recruit Morbius to a seemingly heroic team. 

The sequence was ridiculed by fans and the rumour suggests the idea - or Toomes' role in it, at least - has been scrapped. When we last saw Toomes in the MCU, he was behind bars and seemingly accepting of his fate.

Mac Gargan, a crook injured during an altercation with Spidey, suggested he was going to force The Vulture to reveal who is beneath the hero's mask. Needless to say, Marvel Studios can just retcon Morbius if the plan, regardless of who directs, is for Toomes to return.

As always, stay tuned for updates. 

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IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 6/1/2024, 4:07 AM
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lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 6/1/2024, 4:14 AM
Damn straight they should bring back Keaton in everything.

As Vulture, Birdman, Batman, Power Girl, Swamp Thing, and heck, even as "The Janitor."
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 6/1/2024, 4:14 AM
I hope it's not true, you shouldn't gamble with Spider-Man, get someone with more experience.
cubrn
cubrn - 6/1/2024, 9:30 AM
@Urubrodi - What experience did Jon Watts have?
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 6/1/2024, 10:14 AM
@cubrn - He did a good job, especially with No Way Home, but I think there was room for improvement especially in the first 2 movies. Some risks do pay off, but we are entering into the 4th in the franchise, when we might finally get a definitive take on Spider-Man. It's not the time in my opinion to be taking unnecessary risks. Do that with smaller characters.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/1/2024, 11:34 AM
@Urubrodi - more exoerience doesn’t always mean it will be good .
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 6/1/2024, 11:49 AM
@cubrn - back in 2016 when i heard Jon watts will direct homecoming I looked into his past movies and i actually liked cop car.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 6/1/2024, 11:59 AM
@TheVisionary25 - but there is clearly a higher chance of being good... someone with little experience is a much bigger gamble
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/1/2024, 12:03 PM
@Urubrodi - not really

Experienced directors have made bad movies , less experienced directors have made good movies or vice versa.

Filmmaking itself is a risk because things can turn out either way
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 6/1/2024, 12:14 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I know that filmaking is not science and there is never a guarantee that you're gonna get a good movie, but if you have let's say a director who has done a few good tv shows and one established director with plenty of blockbusters in his portfolio, who would have a higher chance of delivering a successful blockbuster? Of course if Marvel takes a risk it might work, but as I mentioned earlier there are more suitable projects for these sort of risks imo.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/1/2024, 12:53 PM
@Urubrodi -agree to disagree obviously
cubrn
cubrn - 6/1/2024, 10:58 PM
@Gabimaru - That's good however one prior film still makes on inexperienced. Like @TheVisionary25 stated, filmmaking is a gamble regardless of the experience. I would be pretty thrilled if these guys got the job. Everything I've seen of theirs is visually inventive and dynamic. Plus, they're huge fans of the source material.
jerryblake
jerryblake - 6/1/2024, 4:44 AM
Hobgoblin. But not Ned Leeds. If you team him up with Kinpin or Scorpion then i'm in.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 6/1/2024, 12:04 PM
@jerryblake - Hobgoblin but they hold off on who it is. That's the best way I see bringing him in and highlighting a distinction from how Norman was done. Can still get his tech from Norman's time in the MCU potentially.
I can even accept Ned if they just hold off on the reveal and keep him out of the picture til further down the line
jerryblake
jerryblake - 6/1/2024, 3:54 PM
@Slotherin - Exactly. Keep him hidden under the mask right untill the end or perhaps reveal his identity in a middle of the movie. Give him some backstory. Also you could get some well known actor to do it but keep him name out of promotional materials.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 6/1/2024, 4:47 AM
What about Abdul Falaffel or maybe Kaboom Tali Ivan
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/1/2024, 4:48 AM
Marvel want the directors of Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire and then they want the directors of Batgirl...

One of two things is happening here:

1. Marvel are intentionally looking for bad directors for the next Spider-Man. For whatever reason.

2. It is perfectly timed marketing for the films that need a little push at the cinema (GxK2 and Bad Boys 4).

Considering these directors only heard about these rumors the same time we did, I'm thinking it's 2.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 6/1/2024, 12:08 PM
@ObserverIO - I genuinely feel they were the right fit for those films though I do want something different next for the Monsterverse
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/1/2024, 1:35 PM
@Slotherin - Space. They should go cosmic. Cosmic Monsterverse.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 6/1/2024, 1:53 PM
@ObserverIO - seems a logical next step after Ghidorah being confirmed extraterrestrial and using Hollow Earth to explore concepts of other worlds.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 6/1/2024, 6:37 AM
Bringing Back The Vulture? why? he's a bit busy forming a team in the man universe with with doctor Michael Morbius trying to go after spiderman, why would he even wanna be in sp4?
Batmangina
Batmangina - 6/1/2024, 8:16 AM
Where is the dumpy broad from She-Hulk? Get her on this STAT!!!
Scarilian
Scarilian - 6/1/2024, 8:31 AM
Sounds like a really stupid idea to bring back the villain from the first movie who was arguably easily defeated by Spider-man back when he was more incompetent than he is currently. Plus the audience has already seen that.

Just have the main villain be Scorpion:

• 1) Scorpion he remembers what Spider-man did to him back in the first movie and wants revenge, has a suit made by the Tinkerer with Doc Ock's tentacle from NWH.
• 2) Scorpion fights Spider-man, Peter is pissed Scorpion remembers him in some way while nobody else does.
• 3) Symbiote latches to Peter when he's feeling depressed.
• 4) Scorpion attacks again and threatens to expose Peter's identity, Peter hospitalizes Scorpion in anger.
• 5) Peter ends up bumping into Ned and Michelle and realizes as Spider-man he went too far, they hang out and Peter realizes he was a fool for isolating himself, he knows his friends should have had a choice in him leaving.
• 6) Peter ditches the symbiote.
• 7) Symbiote bonds with Scorpion becoming Venom.
• 8) Venom goes after those who were closest to Peter and ends up trying to attack Michelle and Ned.
• 9) The symbiote tries to merge with Peter again. Peter manages to stop Venom by accepting the help of Michelle and Ned, as even though they cannot remember him as Peter Parker they still view him as friends.
• 10) Peter decides to allow himself to be friends with Michelle and Ned at the end of the film but keeps his identity as Spider-man secret.
• 11) Post-credit scene as the sky rips open due to an incursion as part of a tie-in to Avengers 5/6, whether this was caused by Ned and MJ learning Peter's identity or other factors from other films is not explained.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 6/1/2024, 12:12 PM
@Scarilian -
While I like certain beats like having Peter annoyed by Scorpion being one of the people who has prioritized him in his memory while others haven't (since he would be unaffected by the spell and it makes it still personal for him) I'd personally rather have a break from bringing in Ned and MJ at least for a film. Establish some other support characters instead like Felicia.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 6/3/2024, 1:40 PM
@Slotherin -
I'd prefer Black Cat also, would be a way to have Peter throw his entire focus into being a superhero due to depression and then have his life as a superhero begin to collapse due to the Symbiote. Black Cat can be something that shows he still has a chance at normal aspects such as making friends or dating.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/1/2024, 8:36 AM
i would be down for it since I have enjoyed the work of theirs I have seen so far in Bad Boys for Life & Ms Marvel.

I could see it working and they would certainly bring a cool stylistic flair to it that could be fun!!.

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marvel72
marvel72 - 6/1/2024, 8:58 AM
You can bring back The Vulture but you need to give us a villain we haven't seen before as well.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/1/2024, 9:43 AM
Yay! More hired hands
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 6/1/2024, 10:17 AM
@bobevanz - When you have a shared universe and established IPs in general, some level of supervision in required. Otherwise you might end up getting a Thor 4 or The Marvels.
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