SPIDER-MAN 2: Tony Todd Says Insomniac Used "10%" Of His Work And Cut A Miles Morales/Venom Subplot

SPIDER-MAN 2: Tony Todd Says Insomniac Used "10%" Of His Work And Cut A Miles Morales/Venom Subplot

Spider-Man 2 star Tony Todd has claimed that only 10% of his work as Venom made it into the finished game and reveals that Insomniac scrapped a subplot with Miles Morales getting his own Symbiote suit...

By JoshWilding - Nov 27, 2023 04:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man PS4
Source: GameFragger.com

While it would be a little unfair to call Spider-Man 2's Venom a disappointment, he didn't leave the lasting impression we anticipated. The Harry Osborn twist was fine, but the villain unleashing a Symbiote army on New York felt like familiar ground (Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, anyone?) and perhaps made Venom a tad one-dimensional. 

Much had been said about Candyman icon Tony Todd lending his voice to the character, but even that proved to be a little less impactful than the majority of fans expected. Why? Well, Venom didn't really end up having a whole lot to say!

Appearing at a Fan Expo San Francisco panel this past weekend (via GameFragger.com), Todd claimed that most of his work was left on the cutting room floor, suggesting Insomniac used as little as only 10% of what he recorded. 

There's been speculation that big chunks of the sequel were removed to ensure it would be released on time and Todd revealing that a subplot with Miles getting the Symbiote was cut suggests that was indeed the case. It may also shed new light on why the hero ended up with that awful Adidas tie-in. 

Now, we can't help but wonder whether much of the work Todd did is actually being saved for future DLC or even a widely rumoured Venom spin-off. 

Asked last month about the latter, Insomniac senior narrative director Jon Paquette left the door open to such a possibility. "We’re focused on Spider-Man 2, and what we’re gonna do is we’re gonna wait to see how the fans react," he said. "We’re gonna listen to the fans and we’re gonna ask ourselves, 'Okay, what do the fans really want?' We’ll kind of talk about stuff after we’ve all had time to sleep and take vacations."

Do you think Spider-Man 2 delivered a strong Venom story or did the sequel drop the ball on the fan-favourite Lethal Protector? Let us know your thoughts in the comments section.

"Spider-Men Peter Parker and Miles Morales face the ultimate test of strength inside and outside the mask as they fight to save the city, each other, and the ones they love," reads the game's synopsis, "from the monstrous Venom and the dangerous new symbiote threat."

"Explore an expansive Marvel's New York with faster web-swinging and the all-new Web Wings, quickly switching between Peter and Miles to experience different stories, epic new abilities and high-tech gear."

"Wield Peter's symbiote abilities and Miles' explosive bio-electric powers in battle against new and iconic Marvel Super Villains," it continues, "including an original take on a symbiote-infused Venom, the ruthless Kraven the Hunter, the volatile Lizard, and more from the Marvel Rogues' Gallery."

Spider-Man 2 is now available to buy worldwide. 

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MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 11/27/2023, 4:05 PM
Miles not having the symbiote might have been the biggest missed opportunity for this game.
dracula
dracula - 11/27/2023, 4:08 PM
going to be used as downloadable content no doubt
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 11/27/2023, 4:09 PM
Yeah. We noticed.

Venom barely spoke ffs.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/27/2023, 4:15 PM
Possible DLC to squeeze more money incoming, off of this
thedrudo
thedrudo - 11/27/2023, 4:24 PM
Fingers crossed Insomniac makes a spin-off game with street artist Hailey. I loved the spray painting side mission and would love a whole 20-25 hour game developed around that concept.
AgentSmith
AgentSmith - 11/27/2023, 4:24 PM
I must be in the minority - I thought it was great. Yeah, the battle was repeatable, but the story was massive and I thought told really well. Venom was just "born" in this universe and the way I took it was that that he was motivated by a core instinct - survive the species. Sure, having Harry be Venom was a twist. But what stakes would we have if it was Eddy? I thought overall it was well done. There were still some surprises and the final battle was a good one. I think Wolverine will be just fine.
kg8817
kg8817 - 11/27/2023, 4:35 PM
@AgentSmith - yeah apparently we are in the minority on here. Still seems positive word of mouth on Reddit and TikTok so I don’t know.

Harry being Venom was essential to match the emotion of the first games final battle. Peter losing May and Doc’s betrayal was brutal and beautifully moving. Peter trying to save Harry this time was right on par with that.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 11/27/2023, 7:31 PM
@AgentSmith @kg8817 - you aren't in the minority,you're in the majority, this sub is a echo chamber. Most people loved this game.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 11/27/2023, 4:38 PM
I guess they had to shoehorn in some stuff
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/27/2023, 4:41 PM
I kinda don't mind a Miles/Venom plot being cut, as it always was a more Peter Parker focused storyline anyway. Think it would've been taking a chance like with Harry/Venom, and taking two chances has a bigger risk of missing the mark
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/27/2023, 5:14 PM
neat. a video game. such an impact on the comicbook world. i'm so excited and concerned.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 11/27/2023, 5:23 PM
The symbiote stuff was cool, the venom stuff was too short and kinda weak. I get the emotional core and all that but Harry being close to death without the suit made for a pretty obvious conclusion.

There was also some missed opportunity for some horror vibes since they can't detect venom with their spidey sense. Could've been swinging and had a few random encounters with him after he knocked you out the air
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 11/27/2023, 5:44 PM
@MyCoolYoung - There should've been moments similar to what happens when in Resident evil when you encounter Tyrants like Mr.X or the Nemesis.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 11/27/2023, 5:56 PM
@MCUKnight11 - facts. It was a missed opportunity to just have him waiting in spots.
PantherKing
PantherKing - 11/27/2023, 5:35 PM
Glad Miles didn’t get a symbiotic suit because we already had one Spider-Man get a symbiotic suit. It would be retreading ground already covered
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