Raimi Admits Mistakes In Spider-Man 3. Looks for One More Shot At The Franchise.

Raimi Admits Mistakes In Spider-Man 3. Looks for One More Shot At The Franchise.

Sam Raimi aims to fix what was broken in Spider-Man 3, but has also learned to leave well enough alone.

By jman1977 - May 22, 2009 12:05 PM EST
Filed Under: The Amazing Spider-Man
Source: www.cinematical.com

Sam Raimi recently spoke with Cinematical.com revealing some of his thoughts regarding Spider-Man 3 and the steps he is taking to make Spider-Man 4 the movie you want to see.

"I learn lessons on every single picture I make," Raimi states. "I learned a lot on Drag Me To Hell, about timing, and that you don't have to give up any character at the expense of horror. It's just an excuse that maybe I've used in the past. As far as Spider-Man, I've learned a lot of lessons about what people didn't like and missteps that I'd made. But I learned those lessons on the previous two, I was just a little quieter about them. I made a lot of mistakes, and it's part of the reason I so want to make this next story of Peter Parker."

Raimi goes on, "I really think I know in my heart who the character is, and I haven't quite been able to sing the song yet, or bring it out to the extent or degree of detail that I feel in my heart that I can. And I may not be successful, but I still feel like I know it better than I'm able to play it; I feel like the kid that really practiced at the piano recital, with years of comic books, and when I got to my other recitals, I sometimes made some missteps with them. There's a whole crowd there and they think that's as well as I know the piece, but I really do know it a lot better than that and I would like one more chance at that character. The Spider-Man films, I've made mistakes, but I really do look at them as things that I've learned, and hope that when I apply what I've learned to this next one, I really make a film that people enjoy and is really true to the character in a fresh, original way. That's my goal."

There you have it. The Director is admitting to past mistakes but even more important he is vowing to fix those mistakes. Raimi is expecting the first draft of the screen play sometime in June. Lets cross our fingers and hope that this time around we get the wise cracking, non complaining, Black Cat loving, Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.

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VenomIsOnMyRibs
VenomIsOnMyRibs - 5/22/2009, 12:10 PM
Lets hope so. Spider-man 4 needs to be amazing. It makes me wonder however why he thought a dancing Peter Parker would've satisfied viewers.
vamps
vamps - 5/22/2009, 12:37 PM
yes the dancing fool was horrible, it was right at that moment I realized how horrible the movie was...
he should of stayed in the black costume until the end and when he finally ripped it off had it fall on Eddie to make way for part 4...
and the new green goblin horrible as well, especially the mask...
why do they constantly ruin the mask on all these characters..
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 5/22/2009, 12:40 PM
Well, i like the dance! There i said it..HAPPY NOW, I [frick]ING LIKED IT GOD HELP ME!..I thought it was funny. Whats wrong with a bit of a giggle? People take this shit far too seriously
vamps
vamps - 5/22/2009, 12:42 PM
everyone has there own opinion..and I hated the dance...
save that shite for the musical...
there it will be perfect...
SpiderBat209
SpiderBat209 - 5/22/2009, 12:43 PM
I still have faith in Raimi, and know he'll come through this time! SM3 wasn't THAT BAD of a film; it had it's moments. :)

And I'll sit through SM3 more than the old Spider Man/Power Ranger Show any day! lol

BRING IN BLACK CAT & HOBGOBLIN!!! woot woot! :)
Shaman
Shaman - 5/22/2009, 1:02 PM
See now what worries me is that he admits to have made mistakes in the "previous two"... BUT his worst ones were in the third... Is he even aware of those??? I mean, i say i'm worried but to be truthfull, the fourth will be at least decent no matter what because he really didn't pull a "Schumaker" on this franchise... yet.

Here's a tip: X-NAY ON THE PETER PAN-AY!!!! Everybody had to go through puberty and that includes Peter Parker. It's high time he gets some pubes if you ask me. It's not because he chooses "tights" that he has to act like a panzy, know wad'i mean?

Oh and for Nuba X's sake, have him get his room cleaned once in a while! I mean what's MJ for really???
007440
007440 - 5/22/2009, 1:10 PM
Bring in the freaking Lizard!!!! I'm tired of Goblins! Connors is there all we needs is for him to turn already!

Another thiong Raimi

STOP KILLING CHARACTERS!!!!!!!

Norman was suppose to die, that's ok, but Venom and Oct were suppose to live!
droopy1317
droopy1317 - 5/22/2009, 1:19 PM
well if you noticed in the 3rd movie jj's office, behind IS an article about doc ock still at large
IronMaiden
IronMaiden - 5/22/2009, 1:24 PM
droopy I think that was supposed to be an old front cover, I don't think it was a hint that he was still alive.
Unmasked
Unmasked - 5/22/2009, 1:33 PM
I don't know about yall, but this is what I saw on Spider-man 3..
droopy1317
droopy1317 - 5/22/2009, 1:37 PM
oh, well i still think thats what it meant. why they put an old cover in the movie. its only going to tell the audience that he might still be alive. after all, he is still part of the sinister 6 and maybe sam left a loop in case he goes that route
SpiderBat209
SpiderBat209 - 5/22/2009, 1:47 PM
I watched SM3 just over the weekend with my friends, and it kept us entertained! Granted it was more lousy than great, but it helped pass time!

It cracked us up MORE if anything! we viewed it more as a COMEDY than a Comic Book Film! My friends and I sat around watching it and just talking mad crap and laughing our butts off to certain parts!

WE DID A "ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW" POW-WOW THING! :)

The whole MJ turning into a B*tch over Gwen and all! WHO HASN'T BEEN THROUGH THAT?! lmao "She's just a Girl in my Class." LOL I've actually used that line! :)

When MJ told Peter on the bridge: "There's someone else! I'm in love with someone else!," We all yelled: "WHORE!" Mind you even our Female friends were saying it too! "THAT DIRTY B*TCH!" they said! lol

IT WAS SO MUCH FUN!

There are ways to enjoy a film, even the most terrible of films!

And again, I AM CRAZY! Just yet to be officially diagnosed! :)

MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 5/22/2009, 1:49 PM
A poster convieniently placed so the audience can clearly see it saying "Doc Ock STILL At Large"..yeah your right, it was abn old article, because the Daily Bugle is a real working Newspaper and they just forgot to take down their old headlines! Wake up boys.
VenomIsOnMyRibs
VenomIsOnMyRibs - 5/22/2009, 1:57 PM
yes the dancing thing was funny but it just was completely out of place at least in my opinion which doesnt really matter.
They do need some comedy in these movies, Spider-man's comments as he is kicking ass alot of the time are hilariously witty and when reading the comics I do laugh at some. They need to institute the smart ass Spider-man persona, they have slightly already but as he is developing his fighting skills he should run his mouth more as he defeats villians with ease. He's kinda like Deadpool just not as sick in the head, at least in the category of smart ass-ism.

Raimi, if he really has learned from his mistakes then 4 should be the best one yet.
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 5/22/2009, 2:03 PM
Raimi is saying a lot of the right things. Let's see if he actually MEANS it. I'm too forgiving, so he can win me back into a theater if I see a good villain and a wisecracking smart-ass Spidey. An interesting story will certainly help with that.

THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 5/22/2009, 2:05 PM
@Shaman, I think when he was talking about mistakes in the last 2, he was talking about 2 and 3, not 1. Man they need to name these things instead of numbers, it will get old by Spiderman 11, or whatever.

Dude, just saw Terminator and Angels and Demons, loved em!

HAWK out,
Shadowelfz
Shadowelfz - 5/22/2009, 2:09 PM
Meh Spidey 3 was bad but it wasnt Batman and Robin bad. The action was great, but everything else... not so much. The lame dance, Topher Grace as Venom, and the three-way cry off at the end between Spidey, Harry and Sandman was terrible. Not to mention the horrible alteration of Ben Parkers death for the sake of drama... okay maybe it was that bad. The fighting was fun though, eh ;)
RyanTcone
RyanTcone - 5/22/2009, 2:33 PM
Why can't he just come out and say "Venom? Topher Grace? Listen fans, I'm sorry"?
divo
divo - 5/22/2009, 2:39 PM
I really think they should just reboot. Sammy boy you broke my heart when I saw spiderman 3 on that beautiful may day in 2007.....

DIVO out
rockermanny34
rockermanny34 - 5/22/2009, 2:41 PM
How about a new Spider-Man, Im sorry if you may not agree, But Tobey looks and acts nothing like the Peter Parker in the comics, not even close, he's an emotional watered down attempt...anyone agree?
droopy1317
droopy1317 - 5/22/2009, 3:01 PM
thank you rorschach
VenomIsOnMyRibs
VenomIsOnMyRibs - 5/22/2009, 3:06 PM
@rockermanny34
Yeah I can see what you mean, the first and 2nd movies were understandable with his bit of emotional mix up being that; he's young, his powers are still developing, and such. By now however yes, he should be the Spider-man we cherish and known in the comics.

As for a new actor, personaly it is my belief they just need to direct Tobey in the direction of the "witty" Spider-man. I'm sure he could pull it off but new actors have been considered I'm sure. Always thought that guy from "Across the Universe" Jim Sturgess would make a good Peter Parker; just an idea though.

No more crying, no more pining over Mary Jane 24/7, let Tobey be SPIDER-MAN!
shibazz
shibazz - 5/22/2009, 3:09 PM
I have said it before and i will say it again... I liked the dance scene becuz it showed him using his powers while out just being Petey. I thought it ws ruthless of P.P. too !~ Venom and Topher Sucked . too much Topher and For Gawds sake Stop killing The Baddies!!!! This isnt the Punisher!

Shibazz Out BitchAZZ!!!
dxperry
dxperry - 5/22/2009, 3:15 PM
I thought all the movies were great. Sure he whined alot in last two but that just gives that reality feel. After all he is human. the only thing i can hope for in the new film is Carnage. Lots of him too. Maybe Lizard just cause hes been in the last two films.
Spada
Spada - 5/22/2009, 3:17 PM
whatever he says i still don't think he did a good job with any of the three films as a whole. Were there glimpses of awesomness, yes but for the most part each film failed. Spiderman 3 as I am sure most of us feel, really let us down in major ways.

To do justice to Spiderman (not a series of movies or anything but the actual character) I think there needs to be a reboot, new cast, new director a new direction. Making one right now is too soon and would be too awkward. Lets wait, do something else i say but lets leave spiderman alone for a while he doesn't need the torture and nor do we.

i know one thing, i wont be standing in line at 12am to be watching Spiderman 4.
Tobuttica
Tobuttica - 5/22/2009, 3:59 PM
Heh, I know you guys are supposed to be killer robots underneath, but you kinda look like Kano!
SirJediFrank
SirJediFrank - 5/22/2009, 4:13 PM
only gotta say that IT IS BETTER LATE THAN NEVER..

.... mmmh, no. thinking about it, it is ALREADY too late to fix somethings...since they are in our heads forever!! freakin´ Emo-Disco Stu- Parker...
DarkAvengers
DarkAvengers - 5/22/2009, 4:25 PM
Oh, you're sorry? Too bad. You ruined the best bad guy in Spidey's rouges gallery. You killed off Venom. I want a new director. Raimi sucks. Screw this franchise. The only way to save it, is to include like, Daredevil in the story too. Do something different. Spiderman just isnt interesting anymore.
loganoneil
loganoneil - 5/22/2009, 5:14 PM
Thank you, thank you THANK YOU PEOPLE!!!! I've been SCREAMING this since 'Spiderman 3' first came out! I say get rid of the whole kit and kaboodle! After that last POS, Raimi must die a slow-and-painful death by being lowered in a vat of boiling excrement by his toenails! That movie was almost on par with a 'Batman Forever'! A convoulted plotline over-stuffed with an under-utilized villian's row?! 'Disco Stu' Peter Parker?!! Killing off Venom - one of Spderman's greatest enemies?!!! Way to pull a Schumacher! You might as well have put nipples on the Spidey-suit and painted the entire city of New York in bright neon accents, dill-weed!

McGuire was, is, and always will be uber-dork (OK for when Parker was in high school, but he's a senior in college now - it's three movies into the series and he's still playing the character the same annoying way! Just leave Tobey and no one has to get hurt!).

Dunst is NO Mary Jane (hell, she isn't even worth being called 'Plain Jane'!). And talk about wooden acting! We've gone from flat to obnoxious (let's see how many different ways we can play 'damsel in distress' and make each performance MORE irritating than the previous one!).

Don't get me wrong, for what they were the first two films were golden (casting aside). But after this last one, I wouldn't mind seeing the franchise head in a different direction - not a re-boot (per se), just something DIFFERENT!

Oh, and whoever said stop killing off villians - BRAVO! I whole-heartly AGREE! And not just 'Spiderman', everyone in the comic book movie world should take note of this one. I understand that the "hero" must defeat the "villian", but you don't HAVE to kill them all off to make your point! For example, I know Joker didn't die, but Harvy Dent/Two Face didn't need to either - he's a major player in the Batman universe, and they just threw him away like a two-bit player. Same goes with Ra's Al Ghul. Hey Hollywood, are you listening?

...that's all I got to say about that.

Hey Shaman, Ror - long time no talk, wha'd I miss while I was gone?
stoneywhite
stoneywhite - 5/22/2009, 5:30 PM
SM2 set the bar and Raimi had Venom forced on him for SM3
that said it still killed at the box office--if it ain't broke don't fix it
kirstin dunst was eh but at the time she was a hot, young actress
tobey is a perfect PP, that is what Raimi loves
he is your guy for as long as they keep dumping millions to his bank accout
i'm good with it
he was good in cider house rules-he is a good actor
funny as hell in tropic thunder too!!
anyway i hope we see the lizard done right, ripped up jacket and not the ultimate version
later
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