Something bothered me in THOR’s dialogue.

Something bothered me in THOR’s dialogue.

We have seen the trailer and something strike me as off in one of the God of Thunder’s litanies.

Editorial Opinion
By PollMaster - Mar 07, 2011 08:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Thor
Source: DCMU

I do not mean that they have lost that old English “thees" and “thous”, I am ok with that. I am even okay that these Asgardian being can actually speak fluent modern English (though I hope they give a good explanation for that in the movie).

What strikes me as odd is this line of THOR talking angrily with ODIN.

“You are an old man and a fool!”

Nothing wrong with his delivery, it is quite nice in fact, with that passion and defiance. What seems to me as out of place is the word “MAN” (just like the term “sitting duck” sounds out of place in Star Wars : Phantom Menace).

They are gods, or to be even more politically correct they are Æsirs, so why would Thor refer to ODIN as a man or an old man? They should not be referring to themselves as men (I would imagine that they do not see themselves as men) because they are different from men as they are different to frost giants.

I know that the writers might overlook this, and I think most of us also did, or they are just using the term “man” as a broad term for any humanoid being much like that alien Super“man”, but for me that dialogue does not sound so authentic.

Wouldn’t it be better if he said –“ You’re an old god and a fool!”
That would enforce more the difference between them and regular “men”.

Though I do have a way out for them with this one, Thor could use the term “man” as a derogatory term much like we use [female dog] to describe another “man”. Which in a way would give more impact to THOR’s speech and ODIN’s heightened reaction.

Ok, so that’s it. Give your reaction on the same place. VVV

I am WITNESS there’s no small problem that I can’t make BIG.

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Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon - 3/7/2011, 8:50 PM
Because Odin is a MALE.
ThreeBigTacos
ThreeBigTacos - 3/7/2011, 9:17 PM
eh ... is it something to lose sleep over? lol :P Well, Curmudgeon has the right idea. Even as a god, there's different 'sex' among the gods, so calling him a 'man' is legit in my eyes
contrast
contrast - 3/7/2011, 9:30 PM
there's a very cool (at least I think it's cool) explanation for the fact that they're speaking English in the script... it's not a major spoiler, so I figure I won't cover it, but I won't use the names of the characters in this scene, or tell where it is in the movie, just to keep things fresh for spoiler-haters

An Asgardian is talking to a human and the human asks the Asgardian something like "how can you speak our language so well?"

The Asgardian simply pauses, looks at the human, and says something like "It's you who's speaking our language."
IronicMan
IronicMan - 3/7/2011, 9:54 PM
I hope the new Superman film is great!
Wait, what?
NeoBaggins
NeoBaggins - 3/8/2011, 2:00 AM
We are lucky that THOR is speaking the way he's speaking AT ALL. I thought they had taken away the lofty talk altogether, but when I saw the "such puny a weapon" in the trailer, I was ON BOARD. Why wouldn't he refer to Odin as an "Old Man"? They are only Gods in the eyes of lesser people- Earthlings. Had he said "You are an old God and a fool", that would have raised my brow. Hollywood can do waaaaay worst to comicbook films. We know this. Why pick at one that seems to get a lot of things right when it could have been completely [frick]ed.
lokisilvertongue
lokisilvertongue - 3/8/2011, 4:33 AM
uh yea they don't go round calling each other god, they r men and women so calling him a man does make sense
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 3/8/2011, 5:31 AM
so you finally do something other than clog up features with your battle polls, and this is what you do?

this is pointless.
THESPIDERMAN96
THESPIDERMAN96 - 3/8/2011, 5:42 AM
well odin is a guy
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 3/8/2011, 6:25 AM
O....M....G!!!...STOPP!!!...THIS IS SOME REALLY NAGGISH TYPE ISH!!..STOPPIT PLEASE!..JUST TRY TO ENJOY THE FACT THAT THIS MOVIE IS UPON US & BE THANKFUL!!
ironpool007
ironpool007 - 3/8/2011, 7:09 AM
I don't see Thor calling Odin a man being big deal. If you notice, Odin calls Thor a boy too, so I'm not gonna nitpick on things like that.
Jakeroo
Jakeroo - 3/8/2011, 7:58 AM
How about this then.....

You are an elderly alien life form and a putz!!!

I'm still upset about the thees and thous going away.

ROBBEATZZZ your attitude of just be glad we have a thor movie at all is exactly whats wrong. Too many people prepared to just shuck out $10 to see whatever we are given??? I SAY THEE NAY!!
PaulRom
PaulRom - 3/8/2011, 8:40 AM
Never thought about it that way before. But as others said already, gods have different sexes, so I don't see much problem with it.
Stumblin
Stumblin - 3/8/2011, 8:40 AM
Well think of it this way, he calls him an old man and a fool, obviously he wants to insult Odin. What better way to insult a god then by calling him a mediocre man?
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 3/8/2011, 8:44 AM
@Jakeroo I BEG 2 DIFFER...THE PROBLEM IS PPL CRYING ABOUT EVERY LITTLE THING..AS FOR ME IM NOT "PREPARD TO JUST SHUCK OUT $10 TO SEE WHATEVER WE ARE GIVEN" I DO HAVE PREFERENCES IN WHAT MY TASTE ARE..IF I DONT WANNA SEE A FLICK I WONT SEE IT..ITS DIFF WHEN U GET A BUNCH OF WHINY ASSES ON HERE THAT NITPICK ABOUT THE SMALL THINGS THAT REALLY DONT MATTER AND IM SURE THEY WILL GO SEE IT ANYWAY...LOOK IM JUST SAYING THERE WAS A TIME WHEN ALL WE COULD DO IS WONDER AND DREAM ABOUT WHAT HAS COME TO BE WITH THESE MOVIES..PPL HAS GOTTEN A LIL SPOILED AND [female dog] ABOUT STUPID STUFF...GOT IT!?:)
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 3/8/2011, 8:55 AM
Yes. This is just nit-picking over minutae. I agree about the battle polls. Enough already, they're starting to get ridiculous, Capt. Kirk vs. Capt. America? Seriously, just stop!
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 3/8/2011, 9:08 AM
@Knightstalker THANKS...I SEE IM NOT THE ONLY PERSON THAT FEELS THAT WAS PETTY..ACTUALLY LOTS OF PPL ON THIS THREAD CAN CLEARLY SEE THIS IS NIT-PICKING..ITS OVERKILL..SERIOUSLY
Matador
Matador - 3/8/2011, 9:08 AM
Well since Chris is a blond it was allot easier for him to remeber his lines by saying "man" instead of Æsirs.

And they learned to speak our engrish via the World Wide Web like Optimus Prime did.
BrotherQStark
BrotherQStark - 3/8/2011, 9:22 AM
"You are an old god and a fool!"

Doesn't sound good at all
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 3/8/2011, 9:50 AM
i see my comment was deleted...

oh well, i'll say it again. This is the dumbest article i've ever seen.

And give the battle polls a rest. Its not bad enough that you have to post tons of them in Features, so anyone that comes to this site has NO WAY of not seeing them, but then you whore them out and advertise them in every article that gets posted. so annoying. just go away, man.
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 3/8/2011, 10:13 AM
@CorndogBurglar LMAO!..YEA I AGREE THAT WAS A WASTE OF TIME ON SOME STUPID ISSH..I STILL SEE ONE OF UR COMMENTS.LOL
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 3/8/2011, 10:20 AM
@intruder I CONCUR
CraptainAmerica
CraptainAmerica - 3/8/2011, 11:35 AM
I'd have prefered it if he said "you are an old Hannibal Lector and a fool!"
ericmartin
ericmartin - 3/8/2011, 4:49 PM
First off I think it's because he's a guy lol and second caling him a "man" reffering to a mortal would insult a god.....just saying.
meowth49
meowth49 - 3/8/2011, 5:47 PM
Yeah this article is just an excuse to put up ANOTHER poll that no-one votes on
TheOther
TheOther - 7/24/2011, 3:11 AM
useless conversation anyway
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