THUNDERBOLTS* Trailer May Finally Solve The Yearslong Mystery About Avengers Tower's New Owner - SPOILERS

THUNDERBOLTS* Trailer May Finally Solve The Yearslong Mystery About Avengers Tower's New Owner - SPOILERS

In today's new Thunderbolts* trailer, we get what looks to be a long-overdue answer about who owns Avengers Tower following its sale way back in 2016's Spider-Man: Homecoming. Find more details here...

By JoshWilding - Sep 23, 2024 02:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Thunderbolts

In Spider-Man: Homecoming, we learned that Tony Stark had decided to sell Avengers Tower. For years, speculation has run rampant about who purchased the landmark, with everyone from The Kingpin to a Kang the Conquerer Variant and even the Fantastic Four among the many rumoured possibilities. 

None of those panned out and Marvel Studios has avoided giving us any answers. Oddly, the building hasn't even been shown in shots of the Big Apple, likely to avoid giving anything away. 

Kevin Feige confirmed that answers are coming while promoting Deadpool & Wolverine and today's Thunderbolts* trailer may have solved this yearslong mystery once and for all. 

As you can see below, when the team arrives to confront Valentina Allegra de Fontaine, it looks like the scene is playing out in what used to be Avengers Tower. Val is standing by a bar that's almost certainly the same one we saw Tony Stark use during his confrontation with Loki in 2012's The Avengers

There are some minor changes but the similarities are too striking to ignore and can't be a coincidence. If it's true that Thunderbolts*' asterisk refers to "New Avengers" or "Dark Avengers," then why wouldn't Val base both them and herself in the real team's former home? The windows and New York skyline are another dead giveaway.

In the comic books, Norman Osborn reveals his Dark Avengers to the world and, while this movie's leads aren't full-blown villains, we'd be shocked if Thunderbolts* doesn't end in a similar way.

It's previously been rumoured that Ironheart was going to reveal that Mephisto now owns the building due to what sounds like an unexpected interest in technology. Val could be in cahoots with him but we'd lean towards the claim being incorrect. 

Do you think the Thunderbolts* trailer has finally revealed the new owner of Avengers Tower?

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Marvel Studios, and a crew of indie veterans, who definitely sold out, present Thunderbolts*, an irreverent team-up featuring depressed assassin Yelena Belova alongside the MCU’s least anticipated band of misfits.

Confirmed cast members for Thunderbolts* include Florence Pugh as Yelena Boleva, Sebastian Stan as Bucky Barnes, David Harbour as Red Guardian, Wyatt Russell as U.S. Agent, Hannah John-Kamen as Ghost, Olga Kurylenko as Taskmaster, and Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Valentina Allegra de Fontaine.

Geraldine Viswanathan replaced Ayo Edebiri in an undisclosed role now believed to be Songbird, while Lewis Pullman has taken over as The Sentry following Steve Yeun's unexpected departure from the movie. Both he and Edebiri are said to have left due to scheduling issues.

Written by Eric Pearson, Lee Sung Jin, and Joanna Calo, and directed by Jake Schreier, Thunderbolts* is currently set to be released in theaters on May 5, 2025.

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Vigor
Vigor - 9/23/2024, 2:11 PM
That'd be wild if val was under the influence of Mephisto

Kind of like a Sauron and Celebrimbor situation
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/23/2024, 2:18 PM
@Vigor - I see someone’s watching Rings of Power (that story has been so good!!).

That would be an interesting dynamic if true.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/23/2024, 2:32 PM
@Vigor -

Bobby Brown & Whitney Houston

Vigor
Vigor - 9/23/2024, 3:48 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I just want someone to talk to about it! I'm really enjoying this season
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/23/2024, 4:01 PM
@Vigor - I’m liking it…

I thought S1 was enjoyable but this has been better imo since the groundwork has been laid (it’s even added more imo to certain parts of the first one).

The Sauron/Celebrimbor psychological drama and the story with the Dwarves have been the highlights for me (I have enjoyed the Numenor and Harfoot/The Stranger stuff aswell).
Negaduck
Negaduck - 9/23/2024, 2:11 PM
I’m not sure why anyone cares about the “tower “ but it looks like it
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/23/2024, 2:13 PM
I sure AF hope not. I'm actually hoping it's Fisk as it would be right in line with his ego if he ever became Mayor of NY like the comics. Would be so badass to see Spider-Man, Daredevil and Punisher storming the old Avengers building to take down Fisk.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 9/23/2024, 2:45 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - No one, and I mean absolutely NO ONE at MARVEL is that smart or bold at the moment.

We'll see what happens once AGag flops, but I'm not expecting much until I see the F4 -> Secret Wars trailer.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/23/2024, 2:52 PM
@KennKathleen - Yeah, which is unfortunate. I mean since we don't have Iron Patriot Osborn running the show like Siege in the comics, it would be a great substitute just to have Spider-Man have a big hand in taking down the Kingpin with the army of criminals in his employ as a substitute.
TruffleShuffle
TruffleShuffle - 9/23/2024, 3:48 PM
@KennKathleen - What's AGag?
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 9/23/2024, 7:42 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - They gotta knock it out the park again in order to justify not doing exactly that.

The set-up is already established...

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ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/23/2024, 7:44 PM
@KennKathleen - Yeah, they have Scorpion right there but aren't doing a damn thing with him smh.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 9/23/2024, 7:44 PM
@TruffleShuffle - it's what people use to cover your mouth and/or shove down your throat to silence you. Why do you ask?
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 9/23/2024, 8:37 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - Kingpin would be a nice compliment to the already setup scenario.

Scorpion and Vulture can create a strong alliance. Kingpin can befriend Jameson via propaganda and manipulation.

Create a prison break, either setup or stopped by Kingpin (perhaps both), and the various escapees set up the story you mentioned earlier.

Easy 💰.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 9/23/2024, 8:42 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - PS:

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ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/23/2024, 9:42 PM
@KennKathleen - Yeah, Jameson can easily work with Kingpin to put bounties on Spider-Man as a way to wist the "Menace" narrative.
JUICEBANNER69
JUICEBANNER69 - 9/23/2024, 10:47 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - armor wars tho
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/23/2024, 11:04 PM
@JUICEBANNER69 - Forgot about that tbh. Guess it would depend if Armor Wars is set before or after a possible Mayor Kingpin arc.
TruffleShuffle
TruffleShuffle - 9/30/2024, 2:39 PM
@KennKathleen - You used AGag in a reply - I still don't understand
"We'll see what happens once AGag flops, but I'm not expecting much until I see the F4 -> Secret Wars trailer."
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 9/30/2024, 9:10 PM
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JFerguson
JFerguson - 9/23/2024, 2:16 PM
Always liked the tower better than “the compound”.
gtabreaker
gtabreaker - 9/23/2024, 2:16 PM
I am the owner of this shit.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 9/23/2024, 2:18 PM
I don't think the second pic is working.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/23/2024, 2:21 PM
Ooh sorry that is the wrong answer. The Baxter Building was the answer we were looking for, but we would have accepted Fisk Tower or Oscorp.
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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/23/2024, 2:25 PM
I honestly don’t think even Marvel knew who Avengers Tower was sold too but now has a found a way to work that in imo which I’m cool with…

Them supposedly being in the old Avengers tower makes me even more certain that the title will change to “New Avengers” by the end with them becoming a more government backed team and maybe even being revealed to the public.

Hell , some might not even make it to the end and we could get additions such as the Sentry or even Val’s assistant “Mel” (rumored to be Melissa Gold/Songbird).

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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/23/2024, 3:08 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Songbird potentially being in this is pretty cool. Hope this turns into the Dark Avengers though, maybe even with Osborn as Iron Patriot as it's new leader.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/23/2024, 3:14 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I still would rather be New Avengers then Dark (it just sounds kinda corny out loud imo)

I don’t see Osborn showing up , atleast not until we get him in a Spider Man movie first
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/23/2024, 5:48 PM
@TheVisionary25 - it's mostly wishful thinking. New Avengers seems more probable
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/23/2024, 2:36 PM
Val as the new owner would be the most boring reveal after the years of speculation. Here’s hoping they do something interesting with it.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/23/2024, 2:47 PM
Val is not interesting at all and making her boring ass more central to the story doesn’t seem like a good idea.
Fogs
Fogs - 9/23/2024, 2:56 PM
@mountainman - Exactly. Wonder who does give af about her. She's no after credits material.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/23/2024, 3:24 PM
@mountainman - bingo. shes the anti nick fury or just like waller, yet, shes boring AF and idk why... can't quite figure it out. the less of her, the better. just like fury. he's great in small roles but then gets his own show and it's dogshit
SATW42
SATW42 - 9/23/2024, 3:34 PM
@Fogs - I do
mountainman
mountainman - 9/23/2024, 3:48 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Some of it is that JLD plays the same type of character in everything. So does Sam Jackson, but his default type can certainly give off the shady bureaucrat type better than her default role type does. She just constantly seems like goofy Elayne or goofy Veep. And for whatever odd reason, the MCU just doesn’t like having many serious characters any more. They all have to be quippy and joke too often. She isn’t intimidating at all. Maybe this movie will change it, but so far she’s been a dud of a villain.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/23/2024, 3:49 PM
@Fogs - Yes. She debuted about 3 years ago and she hasn’t done anything compelling in the time since. Maybe this movie is where it finally happens, but so far she has not been a very interesting new player.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/23/2024, 4:11 PM
@mountainman - maybe... i mean, i LOVE Seinfeld and she was great in that show... but... she is NOT intimidating at all as this evil master mind behind some shady shit. Hoping this movie changes that, but we'll see... regardless.. i actually am kinda excited to see this movie... def looks wayyy better than Cap Brave new world
mountainman
mountainman - 9/23/2024, 4:41 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Oh I’m not saying she’s a bad actress. Loved Seinfeld. Veep isn’t my thing, but tons of people love it.

Just saying that she plays a certain type and it doesn’t work for this role.
SATW42
SATW42 - 9/23/2024, 2:51 PM
I heard they were putting a Dan Flashes in there.
marveldc4life
marveldc4life - 9/23/2024, 2:53 PM
I think it would be cool since Ross is trying to ask Sam to form the Avengers again in Cap brave new world that at the end of Thunderbolts he flies in to lead the new government sponsored Avengers since they need a Captain America to lead the new team. Then Red Guardian jokes about “That’s not Mr. Rogers”
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/23/2024, 3:02 PM
@marveldc4life - that could be interesting if we have Ross and Sam agree by the end of Brave New World
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