James Gunn Once Described LANTERNS Writer Damon Lindelof As "A Total Scam Artist With No Integrity"

James Gunn Once Described LANTERNS Writer Damon Lindelof  As "A Total Scam Artist With No Integrity" James Gunn Once Described LANTERNS Writer Damon Lindelof  As "A Total Scam Artist With No Integrity"

Following the announcement that Damon Lindelof is developing Lanterns for DC Studios, a resurfaced Facebook comment from James Gunn has revealed how he felt about the DCU’s latest scribe back in 2012.

By JoshWilding - May 25, 2024 06:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Lanterns

If there's one thing we've learned in this social media age, it's that some people have a very good memory (meaning a once innocent comment can come back to haunt even the best of us). 

Earlier today, it was confirmed that Max's Lanterns has tapped Chris Mundy, Tom King, and Damon Lindelof to pen the pilot and a "bible" for the long-awaited TV series. Now, James Gunn's one-time thoughts on the latter have been revealed in a resurfaced Facebook comment. 

Way back on March 18, 2012, the DC Studios co-CEO and Superman director said, "Lindelof is close to Satan in my book because of the end of Lost. He's the Uri Gellar of storytellers, a total scam artist with no integrity whatsoever. And a liar."

Something must have changed since then as it was only a few hours ago that Gunn took to Instagram and Threads to proclaim "A hearty welcome to Chris and [Damon Lindelof] as they join the DC Studios family."

We honestly wouldn't put too much stock in this scathing assessment from the filmmaker. Why? Like many fans, it appears he was simply disappointed and angry about a finale which massively split opinions when it first aired in 2010.

It's hard to ignore the fact that Gunn has described Lanterns' most prolific writer as a "scam artist" and "liar" with "no integrity." However, the Guardians of the Galaxy helmer has always been vocal on social media. It was also around this time when Gunn hadn't fully hit the mainstream and frequently shared a lot of honest - and brutal - thoughts on his future contemporaries. 

Lindelof likely isn't losing any sleep over Gunn's take on the Lost finale (a thick skin is a must for any creative involved in the divisive final season) and this is all water under the bridge. Still, Gunn changing his mind on the filmmaker's work at some point over the past 12 years is no doubt what led to him bringing Lindelof on board for Lanterns.

"This is a story of a couple of Green Lanterns John Stewart and Hal Jordan," Gunn said of Lanterns after it was first announced. "We have a few other Lanterns peppered in there but this is really a terrestrial based TV show which is almost like True Detective with a couple of Green Lanterns who are space cops watching over Precinct Earth in it they discover a terrifying mystery that ties into our largest story of the DCU."

You can see a screenshot of Gunn's Facebook comment in the X post below.

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BritishMonkey - 5/25/2024, 6:40 PM
Oh cool, didn't realise this was a gossip site.
Oberlin4Prez - 5/25/2024, 8:23 PM
@BritishMonkey - You must be new.
OriginalGusto1 - 5/25/2024, 10:29 PM
@Oberlin4Prez - Well, he's british...they're stupid.
Oberlin4Prez - 5/26/2024, 2:17 AM
@OriginalGusto1 - for the throat. Lol
BritishMonkey - 5/26/2024, 8:22 AM
@Oberlin4Prez - I've been here 11 years lol
OriginalGusto1 - 5/26/2024, 6:18 PM
@BritishMonkey - I concur, BritMonkey's [frick]ing old.
VISIONaryNPa1 - 5/25/2024, 6:45 PM
K cool. Anyway.
Spoken - 5/25/2024, 6:49 PM
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DravenCorvis - 5/25/2024, 6:50 PM
Jebus, Joshy-Boy.

He hated how Lost ended, that's it.

There's no controversy or anything like that.

He was clearly cool with Damon if he made it to the end of Lost.
PaKent - 5/25/2024, 6:51 PM
"no integrity" that sounds just like someone posting jokes about boys being molested and babies being raped
TheVisionary25 - 5/25/2024, 6:52 PM
Damn , I know Lost ended up being a somewhat divisive show but that seems a bit much lol.

However as cynical & jaded we can be about Hollywood (and it’s warranted to an extent) people can still change , relationships can change and even opinions can aswell…

Hell , Lindelof’s done more work since then and created shows like The Leftovers and Watchmen which have been met with critical acclaim so perhaps Gunn saw those and enjoyed those (I think he’s even stated how much he loved the latter).

Basically ,12 years is a long time and to hold something over him like that as some sort of “accountability” is strange when he may not even be the same person anymore especially since he’s stated he would say or do things for shock value back then anyway.
thedrudo - 5/25/2024, 7:04 PM

I never get the hate for Lost. That ending is solid. You couldn’t have made one that satisfied everyone but some of the complaints it gets is beyond absurd.
HistoryofMatt - 5/25/2024, 7:11 PM
@thedrudo - Sci-Fi nerds don't like the idea of a divine presence in their Sci-Fi, even if it's baked-in from the start, like in RDM and Eick's Battlestar Galactica. Those guys never once lied to anyone about God being real in that world, and yet the hardcore nerds lost their minds when that finale was a great culmination to that series.
Nightwing1015 - 5/25/2024, 7:27 PM
@HistoryofMatt - Lost wasn't even Sci-Fi it was fantasy; mystical shit was always in the show
tBHzHomer - 5/25/2024, 7:32 PM
@HistoryofMatt - I think you would find that most sci-fi nerds don't mind a divine presence in their sci-fi at all, as long as it is well written and makes sense.
Ryguy88 - 5/25/2024, 8:41 PM
@thedrudo - it was better than GOT's ending but nothing compared to the first 2 seasons of Lost.
SethBullock - 5/25/2024, 9:00 PM
@Nightwing1015 - Lost writers and producers said more than once that the show's ending and the answers to every mistery would have some kind of sci-fi explanation, like how in Jurassic Park the scientists got the dinosaur's dna from the blood sucked by mosquitos found in amber resin, they gave that exact example, and they clearly lied, they said they had everything planned and iirc some time later one of the writers admitted they just made up sh*t every episode/season with no idea of how they would explain it later.

It was still a great show, even the ending and the misteries could somehow have some kind of sci-fi explanation for all the mystical stuff, but the writers and the producers clearly lied and just created a lot misteries with no idea of how they would eventually explain them and a lot of the stuff they gave to the fans in the final season was really disappointing.

It was not as bad as the BSG ending that other comment above has mentioned, but it's obvious why a lot of fans felt disappointed, it could and should have been much better.

At least Lindelof did a much better job with The Leftovers, where he made clear from the beginning that it was a mystical show where they would never bother trying to explain all the misteries, so nobody could feel disappointed.

He even kind of trolled the Lost fans with a "sci-fi explanation" for the main mistery in the last episode, but it was pretty obvious that certain character just lied.
Nightwing1015 - 5/25/2024, 9:34 PM
@SethBullock - I was listening to an interview with Damon just the other day about how planned LOST really was. He basically said everything was very roughly planned but that they team had freedom to course correct when needed. We know the specific mystery resolutions (like the hatch) weren't planned from the start but that the general direction of the show was.

He basically pointed out the impossible catch 22 of the fans demanding that there is a cohesive plan that the writers should stick to, but also that fan input should matter and that the writers are listening to what the audience wants.

If they did commit to a Sci-Fi explanation of everything at some point, that really surprises me seeing as there was a literal smoke monster flying about from very early on.
HashTagSwagg - 5/25/2024, 10:03 PM
@thedrudo - Imagine commit to a series on the premise of mystery box after mystery box and then when it comes to the final episode, after 6 years of audience investment, the show runners go on a talk show just before your final episode and they literally tell their fan base that "if you think we're gonna answer all those question's, your an idiot". How could you at the very least not feel cheated?
OriginalGusto1 - 5/25/2024, 10:30 PM
Jesus [frick]...I have COPD...I'm dying. You guys really need to get some girlfriends.
SethBullock - 5/26/2024, 12:24 AM
@Nightwing1015 - Like I said, the Lost producers gave the exact Jurassic Park example, with how the dinosaurs dna was saved by mosquitos trapped in amber, to say that every mistery in the show would have a scientific (or sci-fi) explanation similar to that one for how dinosaurs were brought back to life in the 20th century, and that there would be nothing left unexplained or supernatural about what was happening in the island and in the show.

That's why many people thought the smoke monster were nanobots, there is another Michael Crichton (Jurassic Park's writer) novel called Prey with a monster made of swarms of nanobots, and the show had a very obvious Crichton influence, recognized by the writers and by the producers, the island with the stations and the Dharma Initiative doing experiments and all of that was very similar to the stuff from Jurassic Park, we didn't even see the monster in the pilot or iirc in the first episodes, and a lot of people thought it could be a monster similar to Jurassic Park's T-Rex, but that it wasn't shown to keep the mistery and for budgetary reasons, but when the smoke monster was shown everybody said it would be nanobots like in the "Prey" novel, and maybe initially that was the idea and the writers changed it when they saw everybody had already "solved the mistery".

And who knows, maybe that smoke monster is made of something similar to nanobots that somehow scans people's memories, thoughts and "souls"?

And then they are saved as some kind of ghosts/files in a "cloud" inside the light of the island and that is the afterlife we see in the last season?

And some of them for different reasons get trapped in the island or in other parts of the world and those are the ghosts or spirits of dead people that are seen in the show?

There could be many "sci-fish" explanations for all the supernatural stuff in the show, like Arthur C. Clark said: "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic", who knows if the light in the island or in other parts of the world is just some kind of energy or alien form that humans just can't understand yet, and that unknown energy has an effect in biology and physics that not even the Dharma people could have ever understood, but what most viewers thought was that the ending was just an "a wizard did it" bullsh*t explanation because the writers did a really poor job and they never really had an answer for every mistery since the beginning like they said more than once.

Lindelof himself admitted the writers made the mistake of basically lying to the fans with promises of having a perfect sci-fi explanation for every single mistery in the show, and like I said before that's why he did exactly the opposite with The Leftovers, which is basically Lost 2.0, with Kevin being Jack, Matt being Locke, etc.

He said from day one that the writers would never bother to explain all the supernatural misteries in the show because they wanted that the viewers felt like the characters not knowing wtf was happening, and then in the last episode he gave them the trollish sci-fi explanation for the main mistery of the show, exactly what he thought people would have wanted from the Lost ending, but in a way I won't spoil for whoever might read this comment without having watched that show, except to say that in my opinion (it's left up in the air) a certain character is very obviously lying, that's why I say it's some kind of "f**k you" explanation directed towards people who complained so much about Lost's ending, though those people complaining were right and Lindelof has kind of admitted it, that it was his/their mistake for promising certain things that the writers and producers never delivered.

Anyway, Lost and The Leftovers are great shows, but Prometheus was one of the biggest turds of all time, lmao.

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BruceWayng - 5/25/2024, 7:04 PM
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HistoryofMatt - 5/25/2024, 7:09 PM
The ending of Lost has nothing on the all-time worst finale in television history: How I Met Your Mother.

Carter Bays and Craig Thomas can go f--k themselves and burn in Hell forever for what they did.
Origame - 5/25/2024, 7:28 PM
@HistoryofMatt - honestly it wasn't even that bad. It made sense to people who actually followed the story from start to finish. But so many people left after season 2 then came back for the finale just to be like "what's happening? Did they die?"
Izaizaiza - 5/25/2024, 7:11 PM
Gunn is right, but if you made it past episode 5 of Lost and expected quality storytelling, that's on you.
bobevanz - 5/25/2024, 7:23 PM
I mean, most of it is lol he [frick]ed up the Alien franchise and had the biggest cock block in the history of television with the Lost finale. Watchmen was decent, idk lol
Nightwing1015 - 5/25/2024, 7:26 PM
Especially embarrassing considering LOST had a great finale
Mrtoke - 5/25/2024, 7:30 PM
So messy… 🍿🍿🍿
Darthzilla - 5/25/2024, 7:32 PM
Running stories based on the insane, terminally online ramblings of Snyder cultists, huh? Awesome work, Josh. This was definitely worth an article.
cadunovaes01 - 5/25/2024, 7:32 PM
Say what you will about Lost (and the divisive finale), but man, its a series ahead of its time. Its good, bad, surprising, cliche… all together, and still delivers
TheVisionary25 - 5/25/2024, 7:35 PM
@cadunovaes01 - it definitely is

It pretty much was one of , if not the first to start the trend of online speculation and discussion.

Plus , it has some great characters & stories to this day.

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cadunovaes01 - 5/25/2024, 7:49 PM
@TheVisionary25 - indeed, my friend. And, for me , was the first series that I did have to download the episodes fast as possible to avoid spoilers (the series was not exibited oficially in Brazil back then)
SuperCat - 5/25/2024, 7:33 PM
Josh be writing articles like...

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RolandD - 5/25/2024, 7:56 PM
@SuperCat - LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Don’t ever stop,SuperCat.
RolandD - 5/25/2024, 8:02 PM
@SuperCat - You’ll never guess what song I just played.
SuperCat - 5/25/2024, 8:23 PM
@RolandD - LOLOLOL!
OriginalGusto1 - 5/25/2024, 10:31 PM
@SuperCat - shello...
OriginalGusto1 - 5/25/2024, 10:32 PM
@RolandD - Im guessing What a Feeling from Flashdance.
OriginalGusto1 - 5/25/2024, 10:33 PM
Or, something from Creed.
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