LEGENDS OF TOMORROW Showrunner Discusses The Season Finale, Mallus And How He Sets Up Season 4

LEGENDS OF TOMORROW Showrunner Discusses The Season Finale, Mallus And How He Sets Up Season 4

Legends of Tomorrow showrunner Phil Klemmer shares his thoughts on what we can expect from the season 3 finale and how Mallus is a sign of things to come in season 4. Hit the jump for details!

By HeavyMetal4Life - Apr 08, 2018 10:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Legends of Tomorrow
Source: TV Line

The season 3 finale of Legends of Tomorrow, "The Good, the Bad and the Cuddly" airs this Monday and we can expect big changes that will affect both the Arrowverse and the Legends themselves, with a slight turnover in the roster of team members. The Legends will find themselves back in the Wild West battling an unleashed Mallus and dealing with all of the chaos that results from a broken timeline.

Speaking with TV Line, showrunner Phil Klemmer noted that this choice of setting for the finale was very intentional. The Old West is a temporal blind spot where the Legends can hide out when they are on the run, and it also reunites the team with Jonah Hex. But perhaps most importantly, due to how ambitious the finale is and all of the variables that are in the episode, including some the show has never tried before, it was very beneficial for the crew to return to a setting they had successfully handled before. 

Mallus, who has been teased for much of the season primarily through his vessel Nora Darhk, finally revealed himself in last week's episode. And while Klemmer describes Mallus as a fire-hurling demon that flies, he noted that the character's greatest superpower is his ability to burn through visual effects money:  "every moment he’s on screen, you can imagine a pile of cash turning into smoke."

According to Klemmer, Mallus is an ancient evil who takes issue with any being, in this case humans, believing they have ownership over Earth. More significantly though, Mallus foreshadows what we can expect in season 4 in terms of villains, as he allows the show to further delve into the world of supernatural myths and monsters. If the season ends with dark forces unleashed upon the world, then it is easy to see why the Legends would need Constantines full-time help saving the world.  

[Mallus] is a sort of bellwether of bad guys to come in Season 4. Up until this point, we’ve been dealing with earthly and historical bad guys, and we certainly had fun with all of that, but this year we dabbled in the world of the occult, through Damien Darhk and his enterprises. But you know that Constantine is coming onto the show [as a regular] next season, so we want to go deeper, we want Mallus to be used as “the tip of the iceberg.” He is not human, and we want to start playing with the idea that Earth hasn’t always belonged just to our kind.


Klemmer also shared that the totems the Legends have been collecting will not work the way the audience is expecting, adding that it was key for them to remain true to the unexpected quality of the show and play off of what the audience thinks will happen to deliver something completely different. He did however note that the totems will "work in a way that's emotionally and dramatically satisfying," adding that hopefully their use is hilarious and impactful and the appropriate level of ridiculousness. 

Finally, when asked about whether fans can expect to see Beebo during the finale, Klemmer noted that audiences should be on the lookout for our lord and savior: "once you’ve invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in CGI assets, it’s a shame to only use them once." Klemmer said they finally figured out how to continue using CGI assets really well, and this is for example why we continue to see Grodd time and time again. Perhaps Constantine's spells on Beebo will help defeat Mallus. The finale does have the word cuddly in it after all... 

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HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/8/2018, 10:35 PM


Kyos
Kyos - 4/8/2018, 11:08 PM
Wait, season 3 is already coming to an end? Time really does fly, I feel like it was yesterday that I watched some episodes in S2. Show looks like good fun nowadays, maybe I'll catch up at some point.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/8/2018, 11:12 PM
@Kyos - you definitely need to catch up, season three is so much fun. The best season among the other Arrowverse shows this year.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 4/9/2018, 7:21 AM
@HeavyMetal4Life - that isn’t really saying much. Arrowverse has been hot garbage for a while now
dracula
dracula - 4/8/2018, 11:21 PM
Wonder who will be in the next team of villains, how about
Manny
Prometheus
Papa Midnight
Grodd
Use the season to bring back the Brujeria and wrap up that story
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/8/2018, 11:24 PM
@dracula - I don't really think Prometheus should be used. But yes to all the rest, especially Manny and the Brujeria. I've said before that it would be really something if we find out the Brujeria were behind Mallus' rise to power. And of course, yes to more Papa Midnite...

dracula
dracula - 4/8/2018, 11:51 PM
@HeavyMetal4Life - Well both season 2 and 3's versions of the Legion of Doom have 4 members who would you pick as the 4th member. I think the Thinker could work on Legends Of Tomorrow, but I think he would be a bit out of place in a season about magic
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/8/2018, 11:55 PM
@dracula - hmm thats a goof question. Prometheus certainly doesnt fit, neither does Thinker. Im not really sure if there is a villain we've already seen established that could work. Might be time to bring in someone new from the comics?
dracula
dracula - 4/9/2018, 12:03 AM
@HeavyMetal4Life - I guess, both the previous Legion Of Doom have been pre established characters, but even the Legends have original characters, so I guess it could work, but the only way I could see an brand new character working is if he is the leader of the team, since he would need a good amount of screen time to develop him, but Manny would probably take that role if they did the Brujeria. for a 4th member what about Abra Kadabra, he doesnt actually use magic, but he has worked with magical characters in the comics
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/9/2018, 12:07 AM
@dracula - hmmm. I mean, he's more magical than others but he hasn't really been portrayed as super villainous, something that all the other Legion members did have. A bra is a villain yes, but nothing like say Reverse Flash or Damien.

Also, I think that previously established villains worked for the past two seasons because the territory those seasons ventured was still familiar enough. It sounds like season 4 could be something totally new and outside of those Constantine villains, we might not have a pre established character that fits.
dracula
dracula - 4/9/2018, 12:52 AM
@HeavyMetal4Life - A Team of fully brand new character would be difficult to pull off for a few reasons.
1.The villains are not main character, and dont appear every episode, so they cant be developed as well as the Legends.
2.One of the reasons the previous teams worked is because we already know a lot about the characters because of their appearences on Arrow, Flash, and Vixen. So even though they dont have as much screen time as the heroes we still knew a lot about them.
3. Since each team only lasts a season they,and Legends has less episodes than the rest of the shows, they have even less time to develop a team of villains.
I could see it work if they had them be long term villains, using them as an ongoing threat for the rest of the series, being a constant enemy for the team, have it be a mix of new villains and old villains, with characters being switched out each year, they probably wouldnt have as many members as the Legends and they would probably just be a mix of Recurring characters, Guest characters and maybe 1 or two series regulars
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/9/2018, 7:31 AM
@dracula - I would be very surprised if they don't use a combination of established and new characters. Just as they used Mallus this year. If Mallus is just the tip of the iceberg, then we will likely be seeing more demons, and that means new characters.
GAThrawnIGF
GAThrawnIGF - 4/9/2018, 11:03 AM
@dracula - One word...Felix Faust. Well, that's two words, but he'd be FANTASTIC. Maybe bring in the Spectre too, since NBC never got to use him as planned.
dracula
dracula - 4/9/2018, 11:11 AM
@GAThrawnIGF - Could work, but I dont know, one of the best parts of the previous versions of the Legion Of Doom was seeing villains from different shows working together, season 2 we had 2 Arrow villains and 2 Flash villains, season 3 we had 2 Arrow villains, 1 Flash villain and 1 Vixen villain with Manny and Papa Midnight, might want some other villains from the other shows
PBIRD
PBIRD - 4/8/2018, 11:52 PM
And suddenly I want a live action MAN-BAT
ChangAlang
ChangAlang - 4/9/2018, 2:20 AM
@PBIRD - I have one comic that introduced me to Man-Bat and he’s been the character I’d love to see in live action.
PBIRD
PBIRD - 4/9/2018, 8:20 AM
@ChangAlang - it would be gloriously terrifying
Luminus
Luminus - 4/8/2018, 11:54 PM
Wait, is this guy implying that Beebo was CGI? Am I reading that right?
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/8/2018, 11:58 PM
@Luminus - not really, more along the lines of using the same assets they use for Gross for say a Beebo scene in the finale... at least that's how I read it. Beebo was obviously real in the scenes we've seen him in.
SupermansTrunks
SupermansTrunks - 4/9/2018, 12:01 AM
BEEBO THE GOD OF WAR WILL RISE AGAIN
Typobutcorrect
Typobutcorrect - 4/9/2018, 6:19 AM
The CG for the villain looked pretty good. Too bad the JL villain was the same quality.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/9/2018, 7:32 AM
@Typobutcorrect - Lmfao, so true.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 4/9/2018, 7:20 AM
There’s a season 3?!... I thought this show was still in season 2 lmao
tugboy
tugboy - 4/9/2018, 7:28 AM
Looking forward to the finale. Sounds like season 4 could go more into the occult, which would be a fine turn to get away from the usual. As someone suggested above, it would be awesome to see Papa Midnight back from the Constantine show (as one of the bad guys, if they go with a team again). The Constantine show alluded to Dr. Fate, so it would be REALLY neat for him to show up in at least an episode or two.
Also nice to see Johan Hex back for the finale. The LoT version of Jonah Hex has been the best one on screen so far (sorry Brolin, not your fault, horrible writing).
It's curious that Jefferson will be back. It likely has something to do with the Fire Totem. i wonder if they use it somehow to make him Firestorm alone, or fuse a new pair?
Does anyone know if Wally will be back next season? Isis has been great, I think she will be back. Not sure who is leaving. Most likely Amaya, but maybe it could be a shocker like Sara, since she is supposed to be in the Arrow finale, maybe she leaves for a while?
Really looking forward to the finale.
Then, only two more awesome episodes of Black Lightning. That one is shaping up for a monster finale also.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/9/2018, 7:36 AM
@tugboy - I really hope Papa Midnite comes back. And yes to Dr Fate; I also hope we get to see Spectre return for a few episodes...



I'm not sure if Wally will be coming back, but I really hope so. He is handled so much better on Legends than on The Flash. And I'm not sure about Jax.

Amaya almost certainly is leaving; I'm still unsure if Nate will follow her and depart the show as well.
tugboy
tugboy - 4/9/2018, 8:02 AM
@HeavyMetal4Life - I forgot about Spectre. Yes, he could come back as well. They are all great characters from the occult lexicon that would be good to see portrayed on screen.
Since time travel is involved, they could find a way to somehow bring back Brother Blood (introduced in Arrow), since he also had some ties to "Father Trigon", that could lead back to Trigon.
Didn't Constantine also have a version of Felix Faust on the show. If remember right, that was a pretty good episode.
However, don't need to see Chad show up again. But Zed, sure she could pop in from time to time...


tugboy
tugboy - 4/9/2018, 8:03 AM
@tugboy -

tugboy
tugboy - 4/9/2018, 8:04 AM
@HeavyMetal4Life -

HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/9/2018, 8:05 AM
@tugboy - Hmmm, Brother Blood is an interesting idea!! And yes, they did have Felix Faust if I remember correctly.

I personally liked both Chas and Zed and would love to see both reutrn, but if I had to choose one I'd obviously go with Zed, she's something...
L0RDbuckethead
L0RDbuckethead - 4/9/2018, 7:29 AM
Looks like Steppenwolf's illegitimate child.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 4/9/2018, 10:25 AM
I just hope they deliver a good conclusion that makes Mallus live up to his hype and avoid the mistakes from last year’s final battle. Make the Legends throw it all out before or if they use Beebo in some way.

Season 4 sounds promising as long as they don’t hold back. If they are going to explore supernatural and you have Constantine and you have the low key idea of introducing members of the Justice League Dark then actually go focus on them as much as the Legends in order to avoid the disjointed JSA from S2.
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