James Gunn Attempts To Clear Up PEACEMAKER Confusion By Revealing Season 1 Is AND Isn't DCU Canon

James Gunn Attempts To Clear Up PEACEMAKER Confusion By Revealing Season 1 Is AND Isn't DCU Canon

The DCU hasn't got started yet, but it's beginning to feel every bit as convoluted as its predecessor, the DCEU, thanks to DC Studios' decision to keep some actors and recast others. Here's the latest...

By JoshWilding - Mar 11, 2024 02:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Peacemaker

Continuity is a tricky storytelling device for any cinematic universe to get right, with even Marvel Studios failing to properly sync up its projects in recent years (Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness didn't reference Spider-Man: No Way Home and The Marvels completely ignored Secret Invasion). 

However, in the DCU's case, it's starting to feel like a mess before it even gets going. 

DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn is going back to the drawing board with characters like Batman, Superman, and Supergirl, rebooting them with new actors and franchises which don't involve actors like Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, and The Flash's Sasha Calle.

That's upset some DCEU fans, but it's understandable given the baggage which comes with a failed series of movies. However, Gunn has also handpicked a few actors he enjoyed working with - John Cena, Viola Davis, and Sean Gunn, for example - to bring into the new DCU as the same characters. Or new versions of them. Maybe.

If you're well-versed in comic books, then it's probably easy enough to understand. For everyone else, it's a bit muddled and confusing!

Yesterday, Gunn revealed that Peacemaker season 2 will now be released before Waller and, taking place in the DCU and picking up after the events of SUPERMAN,  Despite that, season 1 is no longer canon. In fairness. that makes sense when Christopher Smith crossed paths with the DCEU's Justice League, but many fans were disappointed to think the character's journey from villain to anti-hero never happened.

Well, the filmmaker is attempting to clarify things today by explaining that parts of Peacemaker's first season are canon...and others are not. We get that Gunn didn't want to say goodbye to Cena's Peacemaker - the actor is phenomenal in the role - but that might have been the less convoluted option! 

To summarise, Peacemaker season 2 is happening, but only parts of Peacemaker season 1 are considered canon in the DCU. Cena, meanwhile, will reprise the role, even though the vast majority of the DCEU's actors won't return because this is supposed to be a reboot. 

This ultimately doesn't feel like the fresh start the DC Universe needed, and the people who make up the general audience - which is far greater in number than comic book fans - are surely in need of someone to explain to them why Peacemaker once met Aquaman and The Flash, only to now be hanging out with a new Superman and his same supporting cast. 

Check out Gunn's comments in full below.

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slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/11/2024, 2:23 PM
Cluster fire already with this non reboot reboot. Just go back to not explaining yourself and just shoot down stupid rumors.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 3/11/2024, 2:23 PM
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 3/11/2024, 2:23 PM
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 3/11/2024, 2:25 PM
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 3/11/2024, 5:06 PM
@Doomsday8888 - My initial reaction too.
narrow290
narrow290 - 3/11/2024, 2:27 PM
THE ONLY people this is confusing are those who want it to fail. Josh! Just make a good show, James who gives a shit if season one or two are cannon or not..
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/11/2024, 2:35 PM
@narrow290 - 100% THIS! Thank you! How hard is it to understand? The same characters are going to be in season 2 and a different story is going to be told. It’s that easy.
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 3/11/2024, 2:52 PM
@narrow290 - That's a bold claim. I don't want it to fail and I'm confused by this fence sitting.

Ultimately it doesn't matter, I'll watch it before judging either way, but most people don't stay up to date with the industry news, so they'll see the same things and assume it's all part of the same world they've already seen.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/11/2024, 2:59 PM
@OleBobbyTiger - Ultimately the fence sitting is down to not wanting to spoil the story and likely would have been better off not answering the repeated daft question all together.

How it will work out could be super easy to follow and understand.

End of the day odds are the character will seem to be the same characters where it left off in season one and it will be a new story. He is simply saying it isn't complete can cos Flash and Aquaman were in it so can't fully be canon. However very similar events occuring in both the DCEU and DCU is not hard to grasp and/or something in season two where character get dragged from one universe to another is not hard to grasp.

It is only the half answers that make it sound messy and confusing, in practive likely won't be a problem at all IF the season is good.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 3/11/2024, 3:11 PM
@WruceBayne -

Gunn clearly agrees that some of the story points that happened in season 1 are important to the continued character development of these characters that he’s writing. It’s not just important to have the same characters.

You’re purposely ignoring that point because you think simply have Peacemaker in it is fine. Maybe you didn’t like season 1 or don’t care about what happened. Cool, but I like having things mean something.

It’s important to recognize that a series that has more than 1 season has story developments that are actually important to the continued narrative. Unless the series is an anthology where nothing is the same, which seems to be what you think this is.
Knightrider
Knightrider - 3/11/2024, 4:08 PM
@WruceBayne - To be fair, that is how I understood it yesterday. Season 2 wouldn’t acknowledge season 1, almost like Season 2 is alternate universe (In a way it is as DCU version of the show)
Where I am now a little lost is some parts of season 1. Granted it could be the DCU version of the character had similar events happen to him, but slightly altered, but I guess we have to wait to find out
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/11/2024, 5:05 PM
@philinterrupted - I’m not “purposely ignoring” anything. You’re over complicating a very simple situation. I liked the first season of Peacemaker, that’s why I’m fine with season 2 being canon and season one NOT being canon.
Season 2 is going to tie in to the movie Superman so the alien invasion from season 1 didn’t happen. That’ll probably be the only difference.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/11/2024, 5:06 PM
@Knightrider - this is how I see it.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 3/11/2024, 5:08 PM
@WruceBayne - what I’m saying isn’t complicated at all.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 3/11/2024, 2:27 PM
Should’ve just made this a hard reboot. Even with his created properties.
sully
sully - 3/12/2024, 2:56 AM
@Arthorious - Gunn's ego will never let him recast characters he's already cast himself. He'd rather twist things around to fit what he wants. Dude's a narcissist and a sociopath.
tb86
tb86 - 3/11/2024, 2:29 PM
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness didn't reference Spider-Man: No Way Home. Technically, it did. Strange mentioned Spider-Man to America Chavez when she asked him and Wong about the Multiverse.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2024, 2:29 PM
Ahh , I see…

I guess like it’s rumored with Feige & The Netflix shows where he’s picking & choosing the elements to keep & discard in the MCU that Gunn is doing something similar…

I could see him getting rid of or not acknowledging stuff like The JL showing up at the end while keeping the development that the characters had & events that unfolded in S1 canon (which is most important imo).

If that’s the case then I’m cool with it!!.

RolandD
RolandD - 3/11/2024, 6:53 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Thank you! I made the same point on the first story about this. There anre aspects of Netflix’ Daredevil that will be canon and aspects that will not. Let’s face it. This kind of thing happens in the comics all the time where continuity is accidentally ignored or purposefully ignored.
xfan320
xfan320 - 3/11/2024, 2:30 PM
Good gracious James, just tell the people what you're doing with the character...

My guess is that he's basically a new version of Peacemaker, just one that works with Waller/ARGUS/whatever as an agent in the field doing assigned jobs as a hero who kills.
Vigor
Vigor - 3/11/2024, 2:30 PM
I'll never understand why Gunn feels the need to respond to people, or explain every single thing.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2024, 2:31 PM
@Vigor - because misinformation & rumors can be dangerous and set false expectations
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 3/11/2024, 2:33 PM
@Vigor - Because of scoopers. If they are allowed to run wild expectations can't be tempered which leads to disappointment like MoM.
Vigor
Vigor - 3/11/2024, 3:41 PM
@TheVisionary25 @mcuknight11 - doesn't seem to be working guys. Gunn should follow in Feiges footsteps
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2024, 4:26 PM
@Vigor - I appreciate he does it regardless

Being silent isn’t always good.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/11/2024, 4:31 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Wished he did it with the Wonder Woman situation then. The longer than goes on the more it seems Gal wasn't making up stuff.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/11/2024, 9:44 PM
@Vigor - Feige can't see his own two feet anymore
Forthas
Forthas - 3/11/2024, 2:33 PM
DC Co-CEO, Writer, Director and Producer James Gunn needs another title...




Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 3/11/2024, 2:33 PM
Is anyone really confused by this? If so, we all need to be less literal with our imaginary worlds. The general audience probably doesn't care enough to need an explanation. "This is the new Superman" should cover it.
BraxtonHicks
BraxtonHicks - 3/11/2024, 2:34 PM
So now is considered what...
A Retroboot?
Retconboot?
Requel?
...Legacy Requel?
Reset Requel?

I mean, where do we draw the line.
newhire13
newhire13 - 3/11/2024, 2:40 PM
@BraxtonHicks - You don’t need a title for it lol. Whatever is on the screen is part of the story.
BraxtonHicks
BraxtonHicks - 3/11/2024, 3:27 PM
@newhire13 - true story, yet we're all trying to figure out where this places in this new...

DCU?
Extended DCU?
DCMV? (DC MultiVerse)
DCUWTFTI ( DCU whatever the f this is)
...Gunnverse?
...Legacyverse?


NGFB
NGFB - 3/11/2024, 2:34 PM
Canon, reboot, extended universe, alternate universe, who cares? Just make good movies and shows!
RolandD
RolandD - 3/11/2024, 6:57 PM
@NGFB -

I will let Sir Paul answer for me. He might even care because he used to be a big comic book fan. That’s why he wrote the song Magneto and Titanium Man and even had King Kirby and his wife visit backstage many moons ago.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/12/2024, 7:42 AM
@RolandD - Did you know Kirby's daughter (Susan Kirby the namesake of the Invisible Woman) was also in a British band in the '60s?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_She_Trinity
RolandD
RolandD - 3/12/2024, 1:22 PM
@ObserverIO - I had no idea. This is groovy!
CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 3/11/2024, 2:37 PM
Who cares. Just make a good show. Let’s move on to our next problem.
I’m at the [frick]in mall and can’t find the App Store!!!
BrainySleep
BrainySleep - 3/11/2024, 2:38 PM
All I can think of is naked Cena
Itwasme
Itwasme - 3/11/2024, 2:56 PM
@BrainySleep - must have been a fun night (and possible morning) for you!
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