GAME OF THRONES Author George R.R. Martin Says He Was Left "Out Of The Loop" During Later Seasons

GAME OF THRONES Author George R.R. Martin Says He Was Left "Out Of The Loop" During Later Seasons

Most Game of Thrones fans agree that the show's quality declined once it started veering away from George R.R. Martin's novels, and the author now says he was sidelined during those final few seasons.

By JoshWilding - Aug 11, 2022 08:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Game of Thrones
Source: The New York Times (via SFFGazette.com)

Game of Thrones' final season was incredibly divisive, and by that, we mean the vast majority of fans appeared to hate it. Many of the creative decisions made came under fire, including who ended up on the Iron Throne, Daenerys' death at the hands of Jon Snow, and battles that were so dark, no one could really see what the heck was going on. 

While there are those who still naively petition for the season to be remade, our best hope for a more satisfying ending will be in George R.R. Martin's next book, The Winds Of Winter

The author has already confirmed that his novel will greatly differ from the HBO series, and we may now know why. During an interview with The New York Times (via SFFGazette.com) to discuss House of the Dragon, Martin revealed that his behind-the-scenes involvement with the series diminished significantly during its final seasons. 

After consulting on everything from scripts to casting during the first four seasons, "By Season 5 and 6, and certainly 7 and 8, I was pretty much out of the loop," Martin states.

This may go some way towards explaining why Game of Thrones lost its way, and when Martin was asked why he became estranged from the show, he responded, "I don’t know - you have to ask Dan and David" (both Weiss and Benioff declined the Times' request for comment; could it be that they felt they knew better?).

The writer has been heavily involved with the upcoming prequel series, though, and HBO's Chief Content Officer Casey Bloys made it clear that he remains a very important part of this world on television. "George, for us, in this process has been a really valuable resource," he says. "He is literally the creator of this world. He is its historian, its creator, its keeper. And so I can’t imagine doing a show that he didn’t believe in or didn’t endorse."

It's a real shame that Martin was frozen out of Game of Thrones in this way, but he's probably wise to distance himself from the show given how much it disappointed fans in those later years. The final season, in particular, was a major let-down, so fingers crossed House of the Dragon is a return to form for this franchise in live-action.

House of the Dragon premieres on August 21.

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SethBullock
SethBullock - 8/11/2022, 8:04 PM
RealTurner
RealTurner - 8/11/2022, 8:05 PM
It’s not their fault. They sent him e-mails, it just takes the guy forever to write a reply.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 8/11/2022, 8:07 PM
It also didn't help the fact that you never finished the damn books, you old [foo foo].
Origame
Origame - 8/11/2022, 8:08 PM
Well according to his logic on fan issues with rings of power, he shouldn't have a problem with that. After all, it's still game of thrones 🙄
TocharianMonk
TocharianMonk - 8/11/2022, 8:12 PM
You don't say....
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 8/11/2022, 8:18 PM
Me looking for other people like myself who has never seen a single episode of GoT

DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 8/11/2022, 8:20 PM
Never watched an episode, but I love the theme song. Especially this version.



I have seen this an ungodly amount of times.

Also this.

AzorAhai
AzorAhai - 8/11/2022, 8:24 PM
By the most sacred of all your fluffy hats.... The damned book George!
Fogs
Fogs - 8/11/2022, 8:46 PM
Pretty sure he already said this months ago, didn't he?
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 8/12/2022, 12:11 AM
@Fogs - he's gonna keep saying it. HAAAACK!!!
abd00bie
abd00bie - 8/11/2022, 9:02 PM
But really, any idea why it's taking him this long to finish one book?
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 8/11/2022, 9:06 PM
@abd00bie - He literally keeps doing everything else other than sitting down and writing. He helped develop that game everyone was excited about, he was busy helping with earlier seasons of GoT, now he's helping with House of the Dragon.
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 8/11/2022, 9:04 PM
Lol yeah...yeah, we noticed.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 8/11/2022, 9:20 PM
Didn't he repeatedly say he didn't write episodes in later seasons because he was trying to focus on writing the books? Didn't he say he told Benioff and Weiss the ending he planned out for the books? Sounds like if he was out of the loop, it was more voluntary on his part.
NoAssemblyReqd
NoAssemblyReqd - 8/12/2022, 2:03 AM
THE EXPANSE book series began and finished an epic 9 book cycle in the span of time between Book 5 and 6 of GOT.

Even GRRM doesn’t get how other authors manage to write so much.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 8/12/2022, 2:31 AM
This guy is a complete clown. Regardless of the many rumors about coke, groupies, and private island getaways, Martin is, and always has been, a pompous blowhard quick to deal out faux-credentialed artistic criticism of his peers but slow to put forth his own vision (probably out of fear of having his own bile twisted back at him). Guy literally went out-of-bounds on Ron Moore because he didn’t like the ending to Battlestar Galactica, and made his point very clear like a petulant, one-note child.

Check out that ‘Epic Rap Battles of History: George R R Martin vs. J. R. R. Tolkien’ video on Youtube and you’ll get a VERY good idea about who this clown really is.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 8/12/2022, 6:08 AM
Well, that was abundantly clear. I think, even if he suggested the ending of who was gonna end up on the throne, the ending of the book is gonna be different. It was a good pilot to see what worked and what didn't, so I wonder what's gonna end up happening in the book.
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