Game of Thrones Show Creators Discuss The Show's Success And Season 2

Game of Thrones Show Creators Discuss The Show's Success And Season 2

David Benioff and D.B. Weiss discuss the show's initial expectations, the pressure to deliver and what to expect in Season 2.

By MarkJulian - Aug 26, 2011 02:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Game of Thrones
Source: Deadline

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Speaking to Deadline Benioff and Weiss had the following to share about their work on Game of Thrones:

DEADLINE: So has the early success of Game of Thrones surprised you? This is probably a difficult question to answer honestly: if you say ‘No’ it sounds immodest, and if you say ‘Yes’ it appears insecure.

DAVID BENIOFF and D.B. WEISS: We, the insecure, say ‘Yes.’ We always believed the show would find a loyal audience, but our fear was that it could be an audience of 40. Both the number and the passion of the viewers stunned us

DEADLINE: What’s the pressure to satisfy the famously picky fans of Martin in particular and the fantasy genre in general?

BENIOFF/WEISS: We’re more concerned with making a good show than trying to please all the people all the time. As far as pressure goes, we put our careers on the line with this series. After nearly 6 years invested, if the show had failed we would have thrown away a hefty portion of our working lives. Hollywood screenwriters tend to have the longevity of NFL running backs. So the truth is no one can put more pressure on us than we put on ourselves.

DEADLINE: How has it been working with HBO? Anything you’ve wanted to do creatively that you haven’t been able to?

BENIOFF/WEISS: So far, nothing we’ve considered important to the show has been axed for creative reasons as opposed to financial reasons. That may change this coming season with the ‘2 Dothraki, 1 Cup’ scene in Episode 7.

DEADLINE: Has the budget been sufficient for what you’ve needed to do creatively or is there simply never enough money on these things?

BENIOFF/WEISS: HBO has been generous and there’s never ever enough money. There will always be a creative tension between a production and the network, where the production is yelling ‘¡Más!’ and the network is yelling ‘¡No más!’ But in the grand scheme of things, they have given us ‘¡Más!’ and let us run with it.

DEADLINE: Which makes you prouder: the Emmy nomination for Outstanding Drama Series or Drama Series Writing?

BENIOFF/WEISS: In some ways Drama Series. Because that nomination rewards everyone we’ve worked with on the show – a crew of passionate, talented people who have built this series with us. And in some ways Writing, because first and foremost we’re writers.

DEADLINE: How will Season 2 of Thrones differ creatively from Season 1?

BENIOFF/WEISS: More characters. More locations. More dragons. Less sleep. Less Ned. Less frequent bowel movements.


There's a little bit more in the interview, so be sure to click the link at the bottom and head over to Deadline to read the full transcript. Personally, I have to say that I'm very surprised by the success of the show. Being a Wheel of Time fan myself, I actually stumbled across these books many years ago and didn't think anything special of them. But then I became swept up in the show like everyone else. Now I'm re-reading A Clash of Kings and I think I'll have to chalk up my initial reaction to the ignorance of youth. George R.R. Martin is a master of his craft and I can't wait to see what Martin,Benioff and Weiss have in store for us when they adapt this book for Season 2!




Game of Thrones is an American medieval fantasy television series created for HBO by David Benioff and D. B. Weiss. The series is based on author George R. R. Martin's best-selling A Song of Ice and Fire series of seven planned fantasy novels, the first of which is called A Game of Thrones. The series debuted in the U.S. on April 17, 2011. Game of Thrones has been extremely well received, and has garnered a loyal fanbase. The series was picked up for a second season on April 19, 2011, two days after its premiere.


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MrLoki
MrLoki - 8/26/2011, 3:49 AM
the show sucked really bad...
Yes, I am one of those picky GRRM fans, but still, it sucked... It was well done in a technical sense, but it didn't have ANY soul, it lacked all the emotions from the books...
Herosave
Herosave - 8/26/2011, 4:30 AM
The show is fantastic! If anything my interest in the show has got me reading the books as I'm working my through the second one. My girlfriend also started the books because of the show, she on the other hand has read every book and is half finished with the latest installment. I think it says a lot when an adaptation like a TV show can turn people to reading a whole series of 1,000 page books of source material.
jj2112
jj2112 - 8/26/2011, 4:43 AM
Die-hard fans of the books will disagree, but after seeing season 1 and reading the book I find the book boring in comparison.. Things like the confrontation between Ned and Jaime in King's Landing were handled with more tension in the series than the book. But overall I don't think I've seen a series which is more faithful to the source material than this. Now the dilemma is to read Clash of Kings or to wait until season 2.
MrLoki
MrLoki - 8/26/2011, 6:06 AM
@Nephillim

Actually Sansa was one of the reasons I hated the show so much. In the books she was really sweet and completely innocent. Too naïve and childlike for her own good, but still – innocent. In the show she is arrogant and rude, she was horrible to her Septa and I just never understood why.
And Danaerys was played by a weak actress in my opinion. She had one or two good scenes with her brother, but otherwise she just didn’t have the power of Danny from the books. Especially her last scene was quite horrible, she looked more stunned and surprised and even a little bit afraid, while she should have looked really empowered and strong and god-like bad-ass. She should have been in flames, not in dirty ashes.
And Eddard was played brilliantly, that’s for sure. But his story completely lacked its emotional depth for me. One of the most important things for Ned is his romantic view of the past, how the passed times seem full of love and glory and honor to him and how he just doesn’t see that anymore in the world he lives in today. That romantic view of the past, that fairy-tale memory of Robert’s rebellion is absolutely cut from the show. The result is this – Ned becomes a walking joke, and inadequate person who just shouts “Honor! Honor! Honor!” and can’t play the game. Also, his death wasn’t really touching and sad. In The Tudors Anne Boleyn and Katherine Howard were beheaded in such an emotional way that I felt deeply sorry for them both, even though I knew from the start that they were going to die and even though I never liked them that much.
The show has a lot of good sides, but just lack all the emotions a story should have… Or maybe I just love the book too much, I won’t try to argue that.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/26/2011, 6:09 AM
loved the show one my all time favorite shows.

-game of thrones
-the walking dead
-eastbound & down
-true blood
-lost
-heroes
-house

this show deserves to win lots of awards in is fantastic.
Forilaz
Forilaz - 8/26/2011, 6:27 AM
Marto is out of his mind!

BOOOO!
ICStoopedPeople
ICStoopedPeople - 8/26/2011, 7:58 AM
This series is frikkin' fantastic. It has easily weaseled its way into my daily rotation of must watch shows. Has actually made me want to go out and read the books even. Boromir -- I mean... Ned is frikkin' awesome.

Think I'll watch the show and then read the books after the season has ended so nothing's spoiled for me.
level1paladin
level1paladin - 8/26/2011, 8:10 AM
Marto is out of his mind or read a completely different series of books than I did and is judging the show on those.

You couldn't ask for a more accurate book-to-film conversion.

Sansa was dead on. Sansa was quite the rude little girl in the books, which is mostly why I've never liked her one bit. Hate her as a character, even though she's a good character.

Whoever is waiting to watch the show and then read the books are doing a disservice to themselves. The show is so popular because we've read the books and love what the show has become. We appreciate the show more after having read the books than those of you who are new to it. We know the backstory and therefore project more emotion into what the characters on the screen are doing. More so than the actors could, as you don't know what's going on in their head.
spidermanfan2099
spidermanfan2099 - 8/26/2011, 8:24 AM
@Marto... were you watching the same show as the rest of us?! I'm upto book 5 (A Feast for Crows... almost 800 pages ffs!), and started reading book 1 before the show began (curious like that). I couldn't really be happier with how the show turned out. Visually its spot on for the lanscapes that Martin conjures up, the characters have been great too. I hated the ones I'm meant to hate, and loved the ones i'm meant to love. Ned was great, but I think that Joffrey steals the show for me, I ACTUALLY want to kill him! Pray I never meet him in the street.

Understandable the show is going to differ in some parts, to fit those books perfectly into a show would take at least 25 episodes per season, and I doubt it would flow as well.

Twists and turns aplenty for all you guys who aren't reading the books, I have been screaming out loud through book 4, nearly every chapter flips it on its head completely. I highly recommend 'The Hedge Knight' by the way, lovely little tale.

Now if only I could get Dynamite to take me on for the colour work on the comic :/

surtur
surtur - 8/26/2011, 8:32 AM
@marto: Adaptations of books are even harder to get right than graphic novels, as a lot of the experience of reading a book is very subjective - how a character looks, talks, the pacing, the "feel" in your head. Anyhow, GRRM approves of the show, and even wrote a few episodes himself. Reading him go on about it on his livejournal, is like listening to a father go on and on about his offspring. That's good enough for me.
MrLoki
MrLoki - 8/26/2011, 9:27 AM
Guys, my problem is difference between the book and the show. It is, as I said up there, the lack of emotional depth. Most of the scenes from the show are word to word from the novel, but they don’t have the same feeling, they are out of context and just feel empty. You know, words are wind. And when a character from the show says the same thing as the character from the book, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the scenes share the same feeling.
One of the few scenes in the show I really, really loved was the conversation between Cersei and Robert. It is completely new scene and wasn’t in any of the books. But it was a fantastic scene – nice and emotional and really just felt right. I wish the show had more moments like that. Because, you know, the key word here is adaptation. Most of the scenes in the show do not really adapt the text to the tv medium, they just quote the conversations from the novel. The writers of the show really should have spent more time adapting the text, so they could express the feeling and the emotions from the book, not just recite the conversations.

And GRRM wrote just one episode of the show, actually. But I don’t think his episode was really better than the rest. He is an amazing book author, that goes without saying, I really love him. But that doesn’t mean he is a good tv writer.
The show made a lot of people buy his books, so he is sure to promote it in any way possible, he surely knows how to play the game :D
JustDave
JustDave - 8/26/2011, 10:22 AM
@marto You might want to go back and re-read the books if you think Sansa is at all innocent. She's a spoiled, treacherous snake. She flat out lies about Joffrey attacking her sister, that leads to Lady being killed and Nymeria being driven away and Micah being murdered by the hound. She never makes even an apology. Instead she blames her sister because her arrogance is too deep to admit her own mistakes.

In Kings Landing she and Arya are to be sent home, for their own protection, and she disobeys her father to run tell the family secrets to Cersei - the same person who ordered the death of her wolf and the murder of Micah. Granted she's young and painfully stupid (she takes after Catelyn after all) but she was still smart enough to be sneaky when selling out her family.

If you are going to cite the books as an argument for the quality or accuracy of the show be sure to use the right citing.

George Martin is a very successful TV writer by the way, go look at his credentials.

I agree that the books and the show don't mesh like gears, but both have their place. I'm just happy to see a fantasy program that doesn't suck. Usually we fans have to settle for half-baked crap with bad actors, bad writers, and crap directors for our TV fare.
MrLoki
MrLoki - 8/26/2011, 10:54 AM
Well, if that’s your opinion about Sansa, if that’s the picture of her you get from the books, then I can understand why you don’t see the problems with the show.
In my opinion Sansa has always been innocent and childlike. The situation with Joff and Arya was a really complicated one. Arya is her sister and Joff was her loved one on the moment. Sansa couldn’t just accuse the king’s heir of lying, it would have only lead to more problems and complications. And she didn’t really take Joffrey’s side, did she? All she said was “I don’t remember”. The situation was really hard for her, so she refused to take any side, she preferred to be neutral. It was naïve, yeah, but definitely not what a “snake” would do. She wanted to forget everything and put it all behind her. She had no idea that it would lead to Lady’s or Micah’s death.
And when she went to Cersei, it was really naïve, but not arrogant in any way. Sansa always wanted to see the world as full of honest and beautiful people (I guess she took that from her father). She was naïve and she wanted to stay in Kingslanding, where there were brave knights and fair ladies and tournaments singers. She didn’t want to return to the north, wher it was cold and uneventful and her father wanted to sent her there without giving her any real reason why. She loved him, but she thought he was wrong, she thought maybe someone lied to him or something… And In her childlike mind Cersei was beautiful and good queen, it’s only natural for Sansa to ask the beautiful gentle queen for help. (And, btw, Sansa got that from her father as well. After all, Ned Stark went to Cersei himself long before Sansa and told her “I know your secret, I am going to act against you and I want you to know, because I am too honest to act behind your back. I know you are ambitions queen and rule the seven kingdoms, but I think you will choose to run away, so you and your children could become beggars and hide and live in misery.” All in all Sansa is pretty much like her father.)
I can agree that Sansa is a little bit spoiled, since she was the lord’s daughter and lived a better life than 98% of Westeros, but she was not in any way “treacherous snake”.
Forilaz
Forilaz - 8/26/2011, 11:06 AM
@marto

It's a different media, there are always gonna be differences. Judge it for what it is. BUT the show does manage to stay incredibly true to the source material. Keep in mind they had 10 episodes, so they were restricted and could not possibly bring everything from the book.

As for Sansa- she does seem naive but it also results in stupidity and arrogance. I guess that when you read it from her perspective in the book you get a different feeling, as if it's always right what she does.
dtop711981
dtop711981 - 8/26/2011, 11:10 AM
@ marto your profile pic is of cyclops your opinions are there for null and void
gaikinger
gaikinger - 8/26/2011, 11:48 AM
I am reading Feast for Crows and Dragons at the same time staying a few chapters ahead in Crows and catching up with Dragons. Everyone i have talked to wished they had done this and i am doing it. Crows is a difficult read at times and Dragons is amazing!
gaikinger
gaikinger - 8/26/2011, 11:59 AM
Marto- Yeah you really are kinda out there dude. The books are amazing...probably my favorite read in a long time. I love love love the translation into a mini-series which is the only possible way to make this. Tyrion is my stand out favorite who is simply chewing up the scenery in this. Jon Snow is perfectly cast. Lady Katelyn is a revelation. Bran, Rob, oh and Aiyra CMON!!!!! EXCELLENT!!!! Eddard!?!? BRILLIANT!!!!! The casting i could go on and on about...just brilliant. I saw the show first which drove me to the books and I am so enjoying this experience. PERFECT! PERFECT!! PERFECT!!!
gaikinger
gaikinger - 8/26/2011, 12:03 PM
....one more thing. Sansa, she is so pefect its mind boggling. She is playing the naive dumb little princess to a T. I've never wanted to slap a girl as much so she is pulling it off nicely.
gaikinger
gaikinger - 8/26/2011, 12:08 PM
... I went back and read the other posts more carefully and yes Marco is really really out there. but what i noticed was no one but me has mentioned how amazingly cast Tyrion is. Whats up?
JustDave
JustDave - 8/27/2011, 1:52 AM
Gaikinger, I think nobody mentioned how perfectly cast Tyrion is because that would be like pointing out that having air is pretty handy. ;)

The entire time I was reading the books... long before there was any talk of a series, I always imagined Peter Dinklage as Tyrion. Even though Peter's hair is black, his eyes are the same color, and he doesn't have a bulbous forehead I always imagined him as Tyrion. Apparently I was not alone in that. I really hope he wins that Emmy.

And Marto, you're one of those Glass-half-full kind of guys. That's cool.

Bropous, George Martin approved the scripts. He wrote between the lines that Renly and Loras were lovers. And the TV show just flat out confirmed it. Briene, like a lot of ladies, and gentlemen, fell for someone who plays for the other team. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I like the casting for Catelyn. That woman captured 'shrewish bitch' perfectly.

As a last note, they aged all of the children by 3 years. This was done to make the child bride issues more palatable for an audience that might not know that during the middle ages there were marriages that we would call pedophilia today.
gaikinger
gaikinger - 8/27/2011, 12:10 PM
JustDave- well said. Agreed that Knight of Flowers Sir Loras and the would be King Renly has a thing which makes me wonder how closely bropous read the books. Lady Cat is perfectly cast and is one of the more accurate physical matches as described by Martin so bropous's complaint there is another strike. As for you JustDave my only disagreement would be that Peter Dinklage does have a little bit of a bulbous forehead but is not the horrific creature the other characters see in him or Tyrion in himself.
gaikinger
gaikinger - 8/27/2011, 12:13 PM
bropous- you rank on the actress who plays Cat with as much vigor as Bill Maher goes at Sarah Palin. A litlle irrational...a little misplaced.
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