AGATHA ALL ALONG Showrunner Confirms There Were Plans For Teddy Altman/Hulkling To Appear In The Series

AGATHA ALL ALONG Showrunner Confirms There Were Plans For Teddy Altman/Hulkling To Appear In The Series

Agatha All Along showrunner Jac Schaeffer has confirmed that there were plans for Hulkling to be Billy Maximoff's boyfriend in the Disney+ series, only for Marvel Studios to put an end to the notion...

By JoshWilding - Nov 04, 2024 08:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Agatha: Coven of Chaos
Source: Entertainment Weekly

Agatha All Along proved to be a satisfying journey for fans, though the absence of characters like Mephisto, Speed (who was at least hinted at for a future story), and Hulkling did disappoint some. 

There's plenty of time for them to appear in future stories, of course, and showrunner Jac Schaeffer has now confirmed there were once plans for Teddy Altman to appear in the WandaVision follow-up. 

In fact, William Kaplan/Billy Maximoff's boyfriend, Eddie (Miles Gutierrez-Riley), was going to be called Teddy! Had that happened, we'd imagine his true identity as a Kree/Skrull hybrid would have been saved for a post-credits scene or something along those lines. 

"There were early conversations [about Hulkling]," Schaeffer tells Entertainment Weekly. "[Eddie] was originally called Teddy because we were looking at the artwork and thinking about that. That was a Marvel decision to not have him be Hulkling for the purposes of our show."

"Within our show, he is not Hulkling but we pivoted to Eddie because he is named after a person that is important to the writers' room. It wasn't sort of teasing the fans, it was one of those lovely tributes to somebody who matters to us."

It's surely not outside the realm of possibility that Eddie is eventually revealed as Teddy, though it might make more sense for Hulkling to be introduced elsewhere before crossing paths with Billy. 

Plus, Eddie is just Billy's high school boyfriend, and with Wiccan setting off on an adventure with Agatha Harkness' ghost to find Tommy, it'll be easy enough to explain that the two teens drifted apart. 

Elsewhere in the interview, Schaeffer reiterated that Agatha All Along not having a post-credits scene was decided on by Marvel Studios. 

"I wrote a number of post-credit scenes, as I've done on every Marvel project I've ever worked on, because it's the thing that changes the most and goes the longest as a question mark until you're finally confronted with it," she noted. "Ultimately, it was a Marvel decision not to have a tag on this show."

Back to Hulkling and we can't discount theories that The Hulk's son introduced in She-Hulk: Attorney at Law - Skaar -  will take the alien's place in the MCU. 

In Agatha All Along, the infamous Agatha Harkness finds herself down and out of power after a suspicious goth Teen helps break her free from a distorted spell. Her interest is piqued when he begs her to take him on the legendary Witches' Road, a magical gauntlet of trials that, if survived, rewards a witch with what they’re missing.

Together, Agatha and this mysterious Teen pull together a desperate coven, and set off down, down, down The Road. 

The series stars Kathryn Hahn, Joe Locke, Sasheer Zamata, Ali Ahn, Maria Dizzia, Paul Adelstein, Miles Gutierrez-Riley, Okwui Okpokwasili, with Debra Jo Rupp, with Patti LuPone, and Aubrey Plaza.

All episodes of Agatha All Along are now streaming on Disney+.

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DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/4/2024, 8:41 AM

Barf!!
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 11/4/2024, 8:46 AM
I really hope they don't put Skaar into that role and still have a Hulkling
The1st
The1st - 11/4/2024, 9:41 AM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - I didn't know he was in the MCU...I dunno who that green guy at the end of She-Hulk was pretending to be.
JDL
JDL - 11/4/2024, 11:00 AM
@The1st - No pretending. He's Hulk's son from the Ragnarok planet. He even was in the comics !
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 11/4/2024, 11:05 AM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - I was originally under the assumption they'd just combine the two, but we'll see.
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 11/4/2024, 11:21 AM
@RitoRevolto - I wouldn't be surprised but also hope not
Timelessicons
Timelessicons - 11/4/2024, 12:17 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - I couldn't agree more. Skaar needs his own story to unfold as does Hulkling. If Marvel does this...It will easily be one of the worst decisions they've made. Conveniences aside, they should be working on quality control and this isn't it if the rumor ends up being true.
The1st
The1st - 11/4/2024, 1:08 PM
@JDL - Yes, yes..I know. That Skaar has about as much in common with the cb one as...well, I don't have a metric given what I saw at the end of the show.
JDL
JDL - 11/5/2024, 9:10 AM
@The1st - Fair enough. I've been out of the comics for a long time and the MCU doesn't even try to be comic accurate so if She-Hulk Skaar was changed a lot I would not be shocked.

Further on Hulkling. I have a predjudice on hero names and powers in that I prefer uniqueness and there are too many Hulks for me. But it occurs to ne that 'Hulkling' in this case might be used as a tease or even a taunt. Anything to that ?

The1st
The1st - 11/5/2024, 9:41 AM
@JDL - Possibly. Marvel can be situationally dumb at times when they want to...or didn't.
JDL
JDL - 11/5/2024, 11:38 AM
@The1st - Where did he lie on the strength curve ? Say with Cap on one end & the Hulk on the other ?
The1st
The1st - 11/5/2024, 12:58 PM
@JDL - No idea. Happened at the end of the show.
JDL
JDL - 11/5/2024, 3:44 PM
@The1st - Ooops I wasn't clear enuf. I meant Hulkling in the comics.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 11/4/2024, 8:49 AM
He appears in all the rule 34 of the series
JDL
JDL - 11/5/2024, 9:11 AM
@Malatrova15 - Gibbs deleted Rule 34. You're out of date.
ProLife
ProLife - 11/4/2024, 8:51 AM
Josh is always on top of the sexualization of comic related stuff. Seems to be an obsession. You need help. Its not normal to like wiping poop on yourself or being obsessed with those that do.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 11/4/2024, 8:55 AM
@ProLife - Nobody here mentioned sex but you.

Soooo
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 11/4/2024, 8:55 AM
@ProLife - How does including another LGBTQ+ cast member = sexualization?
The1st
The1st - 11/4/2024, 9:43 AM
@HOTSHOT - Don't forget the handle, conveniently on election day. So on the nose it itches....
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 11/4/2024, 9:48 AM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - They're always telling on themselves. If the mere presence of a homosexual relationship, consisting of no more intimacy than a chaste, closed-mouth peck, is just too sexy for someone to handle, I hope that that would trigger some self reflection.
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 11/4/2024, 10:12 AM
@ProLife - spoken like someone whose butthole is truly recovering after a long Halloween weekend.
BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 11/4/2024, 10:25 AM
@ProLife - where is the sexualization part tho?
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 11/4/2024, 10:54 AM
@Clintthahamster - Just shows they can't keep their thoughts out of other people's pants
abd00bie
abd00bie - 11/4/2024, 2:44 PM
@ProLife - I expect an explanation as do others
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 11/4/2024, 8:52 AM
Actual sets on an MCU production was so refreshing, wish they would do this more often.

This show turned out to be so much better than anyone could've expected, lel.

Should we give Armor Wars a chance? hahaha, at least i liked Agatha all along but Riri...eeehh.
The1st
The1st - 11/4/2024, 9:45 AM
@Doomsday8888 - Nothing about Riri feels earned...maybe the show is supposed to flesh that out, I guess.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 11/4/2024, 9:49 AM
@Doomsday8888 -
They could have copped out and used The Volume, which would not have worked as well. This had a very Universal Monsters feel to it, like you almost expected to see The Wolfman or Frankenstein's Monster lurking in the shadows.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 11/4/2024, 9:31 AM
Makes sense that feige would pull back on going all in with lore. its time to stop holding back and go balls out feige!! clearly the show runners wanted to geek out but the powers that be hold them back for an endless cycle of kicking the can down the [frick]ing road in the MCU. i was surprised they allowed the full on costume in the show and didnt wait until the [frick]ing last scene of the series. its time to unleash and stop teasing us!!!
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 11/4/2024, 9:54 AM
@supermanrex - The same thing happens in comics all the time. Jessica Jones was supposed to be Jessica Drew, but they had other plans for the character. Kamala Khan was going to be a mutant, but editorial was downplaying mutants at the time. It makes sense that, with multiple projects from multiple creators in the hopper at all times, that Feige (or someone else at Marvel Studios) would take a sort of editorial role.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 11/4/2024, 10:27 AM
@Clintthahamster - nothing wrong with editorial at all, but they have been teasing and teasing a lot of stuff for ever and ever and ever and we are endlessly waiting for something down the road to introduce a character or concept. i will give them credit for at least wetting our appetites for mutants with the fox stars showing up hear and there. even when they tease things its never the real deal, they teased us with mandarin in ironman 3 was a joke, they teased us with quicksilver in wanda vision but it was another tee hee joke character. we get slight mephisto nuggets but never the damn character. she hulk gave us joke characters for the wrecking crew, ms marvel could have gone against more bad ass villain from the 616 than the unknown obscure they went with. same with the marvels carol has some seriously bad ass villains and they chose underwhelming vs greatness. because they are always kicking the can the down the road for the bad ass toys to come out and play. i just want them to start actually using the damn characters and not knock offs or joke versions. its time to unleash for [frick]s sake!!!
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 11/4/2024, 11:13 AM
@supermanrex - Seems like the only two "teases" in that list are Mandarin in IM3 and QS in WV.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 11/4/2024, 12:30 PM
@Clintthahamster - In the case of IM3 I am fairly sure it was never intended as a tease of anything and more that they were intending to avoid at all costs a potentialy problematic character like Mandarin (or for that matter Fu Manchu) completely. It was only later when faced directly with the issue regarding Shang-Chi's Dad (who was originaly Fu Manchu) that they opted to create an original take on the father figure, merging the two with WenWu instead of ZhengZu.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 11/4/2024, 12:46 PM
@Apophis71 - Yeah, I was using the other fellow's definition of tease, which is why I put it in quotes. All that's just storytelling.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 11/4/2024, 12:08 PM
I'm just glad they focused on the Billy and Agatha dynamic. Bringing Hulkling into the show would've been a bit much for the limited amount of episodes they had.
RockBottom
RockBottom - 11/4/2024, 12:18 PM
She-Hulk, Secret Invasion, the Marvels, Agatha. Any one of those he could’ve appeared in. It’s like they’re trying to avoid this character.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 11/4/2024, 12:59 PM
Who will be the roster of Young Avengers? I'm guessing Ms. Marvel, Kate Bishop, Wiccan, Speed, Iron heart, Hulkling, and America Chavez.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 11/5/2024, 5:32 AM
@SonOfAGif - Your missing Eli Bradley from FatWS, considering his Gramps is in CA:BNW those two are not forgotten from that series thus likely intending to include Patriot and there is still Kid Loki and Iron Lad potential as the former was in season one of Loki and Kang has been fully introduced.

As there was a rumor of merging in Champions members there is also Red Dagger along with the new Falcon from BNW and Vision was part of the Young Avengers too in the comics.

Oh and not forgetting Stature as Scott Lang's duaghter was mentioned in the end credit setting up forming Young Avengers.

So kinda depends on how big they intend the team to be or if having a small core group and others who join forces with them at varying points depending on the narrative.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/4/2024, 1:43 PM
We already have 4 “Hulks” by my count. Do we need another?
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 11/5/2024, 5:35 AM
@RolandD - Depending on how/who you count we have six I think but Hulkling isn't REALY a 'Hulk' anyway as not gamma related with a differing powerset.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/5/2024, 6:06 AM
@Apophis71 - Thanks. I stopped buying comics long ago and didn’t realize this. Of course it begs the question, why did they give him that name then, but whatever. I guess it’s not that important.
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