AGATHA ALL ALONG Showrunner Jac Schaeffer Wanted A Surprising SHE-HULK Character To Be Part Of The Coven

AGATHA ALL ALONG Showrunner Jac Schaeffer Wanted A Surprising SHE-HULK Character To Be Part Of The Coven

Agatha All Along showrunner Jac Schaeffer has revealed that she wanted a surprising character from She-Hulk: Attorney at Law to be a part of the Disney+ series...

By MarkCassidy - Nov 03, 2024 12:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Agatha: Coven of Chaos

Agatha All Along wrapped up its first (and likely only) season this week, and showrunner Jac Schaeffer has been sharing some interesting details about certain things that didn't make the cut.

During an in-depth chat with The Ringer-Verse, Schaeffer revealed that she originally wanted to bring back a surprising character from She-Hulk: Attorney at Law to be a part of Agatha's makeshift coven.

“[We wanted] to get Madisynn on the Witches’ Road, but it just didn’t work. It was shoehorning."

As divisive as She-Hulk proved to be, most would likely agree that the episode featuring the debut of Madisynn (two Ns, one Y, but it's not where you thiiiiiink) King was a lot of fun.

Actress Patty Guggenheim's party girl became swept up in Jennifer Walters' affairs following her encounter with former Kamar-Taj student turned magician Donny Blaze. After being called as a witness, she strikes up a friendship with Wong (Benedict Wong), before returning in the episode's hilarious post-credits scene armed with cocktails and Sopranos spoilers.

Madisynn quickly become a fan-favorite, and viewers began to "ship" her and the Sorcerer Supreme ("MadWong") in the hopes that they might appear together again in the MCU down the line. While that's yet to happen, Maddie did recently make her Marvel Comics debut in What If... Venom issue #3, and it looks like her relationship with "Wongers" is still going strong.

Do you think Madisynn would have been a good addition to the show? Let us know in the comments section, and be sure to vote in the poll below if you haven't already.

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The new series focuses on Kathryn Hahn’s character, Agatha Harkness, from the acclaimed Marvel Studios’ series WandaVision, as she sets off on a dangerous, mysterious adventure filled with trials and tribulations. Showrunner Jac Schaeffer, who was the creative force behind WandaVision, directs the pilot episode.

"In Agatha All Along, the infamous Agatha Harkness finds herself down and out of power after a suspicious goth Teen helps break her free from a distorted spell. Her interest is piqued when he begs her to take him on the legendary Witches’ Road, a magical gauntlet of trials that, if survived, rewards a witch with what they’re missing. Together, Agatha and this mysterious Teen pull together a desperate coven, and set off down, down, down The Road…"

In addition to Kathryn Hahn, Agatha All Along stars Joe Locke, Sasheer Zamata, Ali Ahn, Maria Dizzia, Paul Adelstein, Miles Gutierrez-Riley, Okwui Okpokwasili, with Debra Jo Rupp, with Patti LuPone, and Aubrey Plaza. The executive producers are Kevin Feige, Louis D’Esposito, Brad Winderbaum, Mary Livanos and Jac Schaeffer. The directors for the series include Jac Schaeffer, Rachel Goldberg and Gandja Montiero.

All episodes of Agatha All Along are now streaming on Disney+.

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KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/3/2024, 12:20 PM
Cut the 💩
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 11/3/2024, 12:24 PM
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dragon316
dragon316 - 11/3/2024, 12:50 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - took me while where that scene came from she hulk
The1st
The1st - 11/4/2024, 6:48 AM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - Mephisto wouldn't be bothered with such a thing...she watching The Bachelor.
ptick
ptick - 11/3/2024, 12:26 PM
It was a hilarious bit but I'm glad she didn't show up here. This show did not need a character who was entirely comic relief. Maybe an opportunity for a cameo in Wonder Man, but not here.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 11/3/2024, 3:04 PM
@ptick - Right on. Agatha was more of a serious show and she is slapstick.
ptick
ptick - 11/3/2024, 6:54 PM
@Goldboink - And pretty much the whole cast had solid comedic chops anyway so when levity was needed, it was there from them.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/3/2024, 7:06 PM
@ptick - It was the kind of levity that fit with the story, not cheap jokes. I use Christopher Nolan‘s Batman movies as the yardstick for humor that fits in a movie and fits with a story. Most of the time it was humor between Wayne and Alfred or Wayne and Lucius Fox. It’s humor that doesn’t take you out of the story.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 11/3/2024, 9:06 PM
@Goldboink - I mean, she's not slapstick but yeah, it would have been a bit too jarring
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 11/3/2024, 12:30 PM
The only Shafer i care is A HUNTER
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 11/3/2024, 12:39 PM
@Malatrova15 - We're aware of your love for Mr. Micropenis.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 11/3/2024, 12:43 PM
@DarthAlgar - micro ? Hahahaha...this who know 😏🤣🙊🇮🇱
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 11/3/2024, 12:30 PM
I love Madisynn but this definitely would have felt like stunt casting.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 11/3/2024, 12:39 PM
She could have replaced the mom from that 70s show but I enjoy that lady too
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 11/3/2024, 12:40 PM
There will be plenty of opportunities to use her elsewhere.
tb86
tb86 - 11/3/2024, 12:49 PM
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tb86
tb86 - 11/3/2024, 12:44 PM
I don’t get why people love this character. I found her to be annoying. All I can say is, Thank God she didn’t show up here.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 11/3/2024, 12:52 PM
Madisynn would've fit right in but I'm glad she wasn't just put in for the hell of it.

Hopefully, we get a special with Wong that focuses on the development of the W.A.N.D. team he's a member of in the comics. She'd fit right in as comedic relief.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/3/2024, 12:52 PM

A meaningless annoying character could have been thrown into an almost meaningless annoying show.

Yawnnnn.....

r1g0r
r1g0r - 11/4/2024, 9:21 AM
@DocSpock -
did you expect something more meaningful from a comicbook tv show?
i mean, really?
TK420
TK420 - 11/3/2024, 1:26 PM
Hagatha All Along.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 11/3/2024, 1:27 PM
I’d be happy if she stuck to She Hulk. She had maybe one moment that made me laugh, but she would only fit in that She Hulk framework they’ve made. I hope it burns in obscurity hell, but that’s more of a side note to my point.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/3/2024, 1:37 PM
I am just as glad she did not appear. A little bit of that character goes a very long way in my humble opinion.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 11/3/2024, 1:45 PM
It's crazy how much my opinion on She-Hulk has changed over the past year. I actually kinda like the show now.
Vigor
Vigor - 11/3/2024, 1:55 PM
@HOTSHOT - what makes you like it now?
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 11/3/2024, 2:07 PM
@HOTSHOT - I actually enjoyed it when it came out. Didn’t think it was the best thing ever but enjoyable. Would have preferred better antagonists and more actual courtroom drama but hey it kept me entertained for 30 mins a pop
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 11/4/2024, 3:04 AM
@Vigor - A few things.

1. I read more She-Hulk comics and realized how faithful the show is to that tone.

2. Worse Marvel stuff like Secret Invasion and Quantumania made me appreciate it more.

3. I really like the main character and how she has a consistent character arc.

4. It's got some really wholesome stuff (supervillains bonding with the hero in therapy) that I adore.

5. It sheds light on important issues.

6. It improved Daredevil.

7. It's one of like 2 Disney+ Marvel shows to actually feel like a TV show rather than a 6 hour movie.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 11/4/2024, 5:05 AM
@HOTSHOT - 1. I never read her solo comics. Some people keep bringing this up, saying that is very faithful, which kind of implies that the comics suck ass as well then. But I'd guess and hope that it was more of an execution problem with the show.

2. I'll take those 2 over She-Hulk any day. But lets' say that they are worse. A worse smelling shit does not make the other shit any better.

3. I thought she was bearable in some parts and very annoying on others.

4. That was one of the worse parts, they literally turned freaking Abomination into a "nice" guy.

5. Like that time when she compared the Hulk's sttrugles (a guy that was hated by everyone, treated as a monster and that tried to kill himself) to her problems as being a woman?

6. No it absolutely did not, like wtf?!!! It was on the verge of tarnishing a great character.

7. I mean fair enough, but it doesn't mean much when it's also a crappy TV show.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 11/4/2024, 6:41 AM
@Urubrodi - 1. I'd argue the comics are better written overall (I never said the show is great, just that I like it ok).

2. No but it does emphasize strengths I previously overlooked.

3. I found her great overall.

4. Nah I loved that. Seeing Blonsky mellow out and teach Jen to chill was a twist I didn't expect.

5. People keep mispresenting that scene. She never compared their struggles, just their anger management history. Bruce says she needs to learn to manage her anger (even though their situations are completely different as he learns to accept later), and she points out that while Bruce has had to control his anger ever since he became a Hulk so he doesn't hurt others, she's had to control hers her entire life so others don't hurt her (which is statistically true).

6. How does it tarnish the character? He's become a happier person with his life, defeats her in court like it's nothing, wins her over with his charm, is more acrobatic like the comics, goes to to toe with a Hulk, kicks some ass, bangs the main character so good that she calls him back for seconds, makes a courtroom laugh at his joke, makes an entire family love his personality, etc. I see absolute wins only.

7. I disagree that it's a crappy show.
Vigor
Vigor - 11/4/2024, 7:42 AM
@HOTSHOT - great reasons! These are all the reasons I enjoyed the show to begin with except for the villains in therapy thing. I really want abomination to stay bad.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 11/4/2024, 7:56 AM
@Vigor - I can get that, and we do see he's not 100% on the level.

He not only lied about his circumstances to escape but violated his parole. So I see it as him being reformed...but there's something there still.
Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 11/3/2024, 1:51 PM
Awful character from a terrible show.
r1g0r
r1g0r - 11/3/2024, 1:52 PM
Nope.
Last thing AAA needed was to be sexualized.
Gotta learn when you're going TOO far afield.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 11/3/2024, 9:07 PM
@r1g0r - what?
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 11/4/2024, 3:05 AM
@r1g0r - What? x2
r1g0r
r1g0r - 11/4/2024, 9:18 AM
@Slotherin -
@HOTSHOT -

did i confuse you?
AAA didn't need any sexualization.
it was a comedy-horror.
horror requires a counterpoint to be extremely effective, and sex or comedy are the 2 most common counterpoints.
AAA didn't NEED sex, it already had comedy.

i hope i didn't confuse you further.
if i did, ask mommy or daddy to explain it in words you understand.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/3/2024, 3:50 PM

Speaking of She-Hulk and lady MCU characters. The savage She-Hulk is a great character. The actress that played her is very good. Captain Marvel is an excellent comics character. The Wasp is an Avenger and a key Marvel comics character. Valkyrie could be such a bad a$$ character.

They wanted more female representation in the MCU. Great idea! What do they do with them? Turn them into Jokey clowns.

She-Hulk = BAD show. The Marvels = horrible 3 woman mega flop.

Great job with strong women representation guys. Really.

MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 11/3/2024, 5:42 PM
@DocSpock – I mean, you left out Shuri, Wanda, Okoye, and a slew of others. The first Captain Marvel also made a billion. Agatha just had a well-received show with strong numbers, and Kate Bishop was well received too. There are plenty of strong female characters.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/3/2024, 6:10 PM
@MyCoolYoung -

I didn't say there weren't any. I like most of those you listed. But they are B & C list characters. I was referring to them taking A list characters and screwing them up.

And Agatha was well received but did NOT have strong numbers.
Nolanite
Nolanite - 11/3/2024, 6:54 PM
@DocSpock - thanks for agreeing with me that The Marvels will and still sucks.
Nolanite out
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