AGATHA ALL ALONG Spin-Off Focusing On The Search For Tommy Maximoff Rumored To Be In Development

AGATHA ALL ALONG Spin-Off Focusing On The Search For Tommy Maximoff Rumored To Be In Development

A new rumor is claiming that Marvel Studios is developing an Agatha All Along spin-off that will focus on the search for the Scarlet Witch's other son, Tommy...

By MarkCassidy - Oct 04, 2024 08:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Agatha: Coven of Chaos

Agatha All Along has been a decent success for Marvel so far (which is at least partially due to the fact that it's the least expensive Disney+ series yet), and it seems the studio is pleased enough with the show's viewership that plans are in place for a spin-off.

Agatha - itself a spin-off of WandaVision - introduced a mysterious "Teen" (Joe Locke) who is believed to be Wanda Maximoff's (Elizabeth Olsen) son Billy Kaplan/Wiccan, and according to Daniel Richtman, this new series will focus on the search for the Scarlet Witch's other son, Tommy Maximoff, aka Speed.

If accurate, this would be a somewhat surprising development. There is already a Vision series in the works, and a recent rumor claimed that Euphoria breakout Javon Walton is in talks to play a second "Teen," who will presumably turn out to be Tommy. Do we really need another series focusing on these characters?

To be fair, a lot of people said the same thing about Agatha All Along, and while some fans remain far from won over, the four episodes we've seen do seem to have silenced a lot of doubters.

Billy and Tommy were introduced as the children of Scarlet Witch and Vision (Paul Bettany) in WandaVision. They were ultimately revealed to be constructs of the Westview Anomaly, and were erased from existence when Wanda dispelled the Hex.

In Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, a vengeful Scarlet With makes it her mission to track down alternate universe variants of the twins, but finally comes to terms with the fact that she can never be reunited with the sons she lost in the WandaVision finale.

The twins will likely be a part of the Young Avengers team we saw Kamala Khan (Iman Vellani) begin to assemble in The Marvels.

The new series focuses on Kathryn Hahn’s character, Agatha Harkness, from the acclaimed Marvel Studios’ series WandaVision, as she sets off on a dangerous, mysterious adventure filled with trials and tribulations. Showrunner Jac Schaeffer, who was the creative force behind WandaVision, directs the pilot episode.

"In Agatha All Along, the infamous Agatha Harkness finds herself down and out of power after a suspicious goth Teen helps break her free from a distorted spell. Her interest is piqued when he begs her to take him on the legendary Witches’ Road, a magical gauntlet of trials that, if survived, rewards a witch with what they’re missing. Together, Agatha and this mysterious Teen pull together a desperate coven, and set off down, down, down The Road…"

In addition to Kathryn Hahn, Agatha All Along stars Joe Locke, Sasheer Zamata, Ali Ahn, Maria Dizzia, Paul Adelstein, Miles Gutierrez-Riley, Okwui Okpokwasili, with Debra Jo Rupp, with Patti LuPone, and Aubrey Plaza. The executive producers are Kevin Feige, Louis D’Esposito, Brad Winderbaum, Mary Livanos and Jac Schaeffer. The directors for the series include Jac Schaeffer, Rachel Goldberg and Gandja Montiero.

Marvel Television’s Agatha All Along premieres September 18 at 6:00 p.m. PT/9:00 p.m. ET, with the first two episodes, exclusively on Disney+.

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WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 10/4/2024, 8:01 AM
Let's just have that be part of Vision Quest.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/4/2024, 8:05 AM
@WakandanQueen - yeah , not sure it needs a whole series (if this is even true)

If this is about Tommy though then it makes me wonder who Javon Walton is rumored for then?.

I’m assuming Vin Vision

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BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 10/4/2024, 8:12 AM
I liked the idea of keeping the whole Wanda and Vision story as a 3 part show, Wandavision/Agatha/VisionQuest, but we'll see

So far Agatha is really good, but I doubt a spinoff can work without the amazing cast they pull together for this one
PatchesOhulihan
PatchesOhulihan - 10/4/2024, 8:28 AM
We must go deeper. I want to watch a spin-off of a spin-off of a spin-off of a spin-off...
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 10/4/2024, 1:43 PM
@PatchesOhulihan - Frasier reboot?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/4/2024, 8:33 AM
Interesting…

Let’s remember that the Marvel TV head has said they are developing more shows then they will actually make which is a common practice in tv so this may or may even happen if true.

I do think as of now & without any other details , it would be best if Tommy shows up in Vision Quest since I like the dichotomy of both him & Billy (if that is Joe Locke’s character) seemingly searching for their parents in different spin-off series of WV.

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Fares
Fares - 10/4/2024, 8:34 AM
I think I'm officially in the "I don't care to watch this" territory with the MCU. I already got a couple of projects that I still have to catch up with and I'm not sure if I will. I hope none of it is necessary homework for the upcoming stuff I care about.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/4/2024, 8:50 AM
@Fares - that’s perfectly fine

I think that’s how it should be now because that’s how comics are

You follow the corners and characters that you do care about and ignore the others unless necessary.
Fares
Fares - 10/4/2024, 9:27 AM
@TheVisionary25 - But that's exactly the problem I'm afraid, that's one of the main things that I don't want the movies to follow the comics in, that's exactly why I rarely read "main universe" comics these days. Nowadays I just go for parallel universe stories because they're a self-contained smaller commitment, or, years later, when I've seen enough acclaim about a particular story arc, I go back to it. I don't want my relationship with the MCU to become like the one I have with the comics, I'm not even sure if the studio can afford that like the comics can if others follow the same approach I do.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/4/2024, 9:44 AM
@Fares - honestly dude , I don’t even know what Marvel should do

If everything’s too connected then people complain about having to do homework to watch it and then they are people like you who ( and correct me if I’m wrong) that don’t want it to be separated so idk man

You can’t make everyone happy
Fares
Fares - 10/4/2024, 10:25 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I agree, it puts them between a rock and a hard place, I can't argue with that, and the solution may not be so obvious.

Now I wouldn't say that I'd be personally opposed to making the movies practically separated at this point, it's not much of an appeal to me these days, but you know there are people out there that won't like that.

I think the best thing to do is see what made the MCU work in its golden years, and see what changed since then.

When you had 2 to 3 movies per year that focused on fairly known characters, it was pretty digestible and it didn't feel like a chore. When you introduced lesser-known characters, you kept them in supporting roles over many years until audiences properly warmed up to them and they earned a seat among the big players, and I think Sam Wilson is the best example of that.

Even when lesser-known characters got solo movies out of the gate, they were either inherently interesting and entertaining like Deadpool, or they got movies with a more unique personality and directing style like GOTG, and that's not something that the MCU has done a lot of, and I bet it's because they knew how risky it was to make general audiences care.

Nowadays we got TV series added into the mix. Watching TV is a significantly bigger commitment for many people, especially when you have multiple MCU shows to go through, let alone the fact that the TV market outside of the MCU is pretty competitive, and the Disney+ shows, Star Wars included, aren't ahead of the curve in terms of reception.

It also doesn't help when these shows revolve around lesser-known characters that aren't as easy to sell as Deadpool, or if the shows themselves don't stand out enough in style and personality. I think that's where the cracks start to show.

Perhaps the best of both worlds is to keep these projects about lesser-known characters practically separate from the main plotline of the MCU so that they can exist without feeling like homework.

Anyway, I rambled too much, sorry about that.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/4/2024, 10:37 AM
@Fares - no problem man

I definitely get your perspective and you do bring up some good solutions to it aswell though I just don’t you are gonna things that appeal to everyone anymore

Maybe something like Echo didn’t have enough of a hook or style for some but I know it did for others

Funnily enough ,Echo is a Marvel spotlight project that is meant to be a label for projects that are separate from the wider MCU and it’s rumored that Wonder Man will be under that aswell so I guess they do seem to be following your advice to an extent
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 10/4/2024, 1:12 PM
@Fares - I hope you never watch another Marvel film. In fact, I hope you completely loose interest and stop coming to this site.
Fares
Fares - 10/4/2024, 2:54 PM
@Comicmoviejunki - that's unnecessarily mean, don't you think?
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 10/4/2024, 6:05 PM
@Fares - I dunno. Maybe.
Fares
Fares - 10/4/2024, 6:23 PM
@Comicmoviejunki - It's okay either way, I'm sure you didn't mean to.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/4/2024, 8:34 AM
"while some fans remain far from won over,"

Those that aren't won over at this point, never will be.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/4/2024, 8:55 AM
@Clintthahamster - Most of us just aren’t watching it. There is nothing to be won over. The stuff with less mass appeal is just going to have a small audience size going forward.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/4/2024, 9:08 AM
@mountainman - Right, like I said, Those that aren't won over at this point, never will be. They've either given a shot and didn't like it, or decided not to watch at all.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 10/4/2024, 8:35 AM

Ugh. They will milk it until they kill it.

I do definitely want more MCU Aubrey Plaza after all this Agatha nonsense is over.

Ryan
Ryan - 10/4/2024, 8:37 AM
Well there are alot of big stories involving Wanda so they could do House of M, Yound Avengers Childerens Crusade, Avengers Disassembled. They could even redo A VS X and have it revolve around Wanda instead of Phoenix. Marvel can milk Wanda for a bit.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 10/4/2024, 8:55 AM
Still haven’t watched Agatha, just doesn’t seem appealing. 3 different shows all essentially revolving around Scarlet Witch seems a bit much, let alone a 4th. Her comic book character may be uber powerful and even popular, but her MCU character is actually pretty boring. But as I keep saying, Disney is all about laying the groundwork to bring in future audiences and younger viewers. They won’t lay off the gas pedal when it comes to introducing the “jr” versions of the avengers be that sidekicks or their children.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/4/2024, 9:10 AM
@MuadDib - "But as I keep saying, Disney is all about laying the groundwork to bring in future audiences and younger viewers."

You say that like it's a bad thing.
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 10/4/2024, 9:55 AM
@MuadDib - Well, they have changed their approach. The only things actively in development are VisionQuest and Nova and they may still not move forward with them if the pilots aren't working. They still can have other ideas. I'm not convinced at Esposito character getting a spin-off show either, I think he more so meant he has signed on to appear to movies and TV.

The way development is going, I can see them developing just about enough stuff to conclude the current saga. Two seasons of Born Again, Ironheart, Wonder Man, VisionQuest and Nova alongside What If S3, Zombies, YFNS, Eyes of Wakanda. Most of these are nearly done.
LSHF
LSHF - 10/4/2024, 9:03 AM
I thought they were going to back off on their theatrical AND streaming schedule and focus on "quality over quantity".

This "rumor" doesn't sound like they are doing that.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/4/2024, 9:13 AM
@LSHF - Brad Winderbaum who is the head of Marvel TV said like a lot of tv networks , they are developing more then actually making

Like they will only make a show now if they feel there’s a strong enough story there
LSHF
LSHF - 10/4/2024, 10:30 AM
@TheVisionary25 - Okay, that makes sense.

Thank you.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 10/4/2024, 9:53 AM
agatha successful? but but the youtube incels they are saying with big bold yellow letters that this show is a colossal failure. nerdrotic hates it. ryan kinnel hates it. so how can it possibly be successful since the gatekeepers of entertainment call it woke?? (SARCASM POST)
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 10/4/2024, 10:31 AM
@supermanrex - Its not successful. The ratings are in the garbage.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 10/4/2024, 11:27 AM
@CreateNowSlpL8r - says who
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 10/4/2024, 7:40 PM
@supermanrex - Says Disney reporting 9.3m views and now staying silent. 9.3m views is worse than the Acolyte and they reported that over a week as opposed to 5 days for the Acolyte.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/4/2024, 11:03 PM
@supermanrex - the numbers are rough bud.
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/5/2024, 9:37 AM
@supermanrex - 154 Million subscribers and only 9.3 million watched, yeah that's bad.
TheJester187
TheJester187 - 10/4/2024, 10:28 AM
Trash!! Characters no one wants or cares about. Fxck woke Disney
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 10/4/2024, 10:38 AM
No chance of this happening. You dont need an entire series for this. He can just show up. I think its clear, Feige is pushing out whatever is in production and no longer putting money into characters that no one cares about. They need to get through Ironheart(bomb) and you'll see Wonderman(bomb) and Vision. Daredevil will do well.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 10/4/2024, 11:30 AM
@CreateNowSlpL8r - oh please explain why ironheart and wonderman will be bombs but not vision.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/4/2024, 11:04 PM
@supermanrex - sure thing: Terry Matalas. It's that simple.
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/5/2024, 9:39 AM
@supermanrex - Vision is more known and more popular than both Ironheart and Wonder Man.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/4/2024, 11:23 AM
What spinoff or idea or whatnot is not rumoured to be in development at this point? This one especially feels like a throwing shit at a wall and seeing if it sticks rumour
thespiderkat
thespiderkat - 10/4/2024, 6:41 PM
“Gay explosion part 2: electric boogaloo”

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