DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN - Disney Is Right To Ignore SHE-HULK Romance

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN - Disney Is Right To Ignore SHE-HULK Romance

Daredevil and She-Hulk shared the screen in the Disney+ series, but this fleeting romance is better left abandoned to let Daredevil come into his own.

Editorial Opinion
By ChandlerMcniel - Feb 18, 2025 12:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil
Source: Screen-Rant

With Daredevil: Born Again, less than a month away, there is hype all across the Marvel fan base for the return of the Man Without Fear and his solo debut into the MCU. With the series fully embracing its TV-MA rating and the first trailer featuring an awesome montage of bones breaking, it really does feel like the Daredevil we all knew and loved from the Netflix series is back. 

Although, this is technically Daredevil/Matt Murdock's third appearance in the MCU (unless you count the first show which was clearly intended to be in the MCU at first or his recent appearance in Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man which is not part of the main universe.) Charlie Cox’s Matt Murdock first appeared in the MCU in the fantastic Spider-Man: No Way Home, but Daredevil himself was not featured. Daredevil was, however, famously and somewhat controversially featured in She-Hulk: Attorney At Law

In the comics, She-Hulk and Daredevil never actually dated or hooked up. Of course, that isn’t to say that all other mediums must perfectly imitate the comics, but the source material a work is pulling from is always noteworthy. 

In the Disney+ series, Matt Murdock and Jennifer Walters have a very flirty relationship. Matt even meets Jennifer's parents. They don’t actually develop a deep relationship and instead simply have what is essentially a one night stand, but the show definitely hinted at their being a potential long standing relationship between the two characters in the future. 

Luckily, it seems like Daredevil: Born Again is ignoring that relationship. 

A relationship between Daredevil and She-Hulk simply doesn’t make any sense. There are obvious reasons like her potential to quite literally kill him if things get a bit too exciting, but the main reason these characters should not be involved is that they are complete tonal opposites from one another. Can tonal opposites work? Yes. Batman and Superman are close friends in the comics and share an ongoing series together despite their complete opposite tones. A cinematic example would be Deadpool & Wolverine, a movie most fans and critics were pleased with that became the highest grossing R rated movie of all time. But there’s a reason some tonal opposites work when put together and others don’t. Batman and Superman and Deadpool and Wolverine personify the “good cop, bad cop” style relationship, but Daredevil and She-Hulk simply clash.

In the scenes Matt Murdock and Jen Walters shared together, there was no chemistry whatsoever. Of course, there are some that disagree, but there are also many that think the two did not share the screen well. That wasn’t entirely their fault as Tatiana Maslany and Charlie Cox are both solid actors. Part of the blame certainly falls on the script. This is not something we want to see poured over into Daredevil: Born Again.

Seeing Charlie Cox act silly as Daredevil and make jokes in the costume felt, to me, like watching Luke Skywalker throw away the lightsaber in Star Wars: The Last Jedi. It was simply wrong, a disservice to a beloved character. Can anyone envision Daredevil from the Netflix series acting like he did in She-Hulk in an episode of Born Again? I certainly hope not. 

The tones of the characters simply clash too much. For a great comparison watch this trailer for Born Again. 

Now watch this trailer for She-Hulk.

See the difference?

Of course, She-Hulk’s character could be turned much more serious for Born Again. Maslany recently commented on the idea of being in the show, saying, “Would I be born again? I mean, absolutely, he was so great. He was so fun, like a really fun person to play with. And I think what he did so well was take a character that exists in a different tone and totally adapt him for this new tone, while still maintaining the integrity of the character, which is actually very funny, then. To see him collide with this sort of goofier world.”

She continued to comment on the idea of She-Hulk operating within the serious world of Born Again. “I have a serious, well, I have a lot of serious bones in my body.”

Is it possible? Absolutely. As I said, Maslany is a solid actress. Should it happen? No. 

There were some individual moments in She-Hulk: Attorney At Law that were likeable and fun, but, overall, I found the show’s reliance on goofiness and corny jokes to take away from the experience as a whole as most of the jokes, at least for me, did not land. All things considered, I did not like the show and want all things She-Hulk to stay as far away from Daredevil: Born Again as possible. Daredevil works so much better as a dark, violent, almost entirely, if not completely serious drama. Comedy doesn’t need to be everywhere within the MCU. 

On top of all that, Daredevil: Born Again is only nine episodes long. There simply isn't enough time to explore a relationship in that time. 

What do you think about a possible She-Hulk appearance in Daredevil: Born Again? Let me know what you think!

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Cryptonautaz
Cryptonautaz - 2/18/2025, 12:25 PM
That episode was just a nice little drive-by for DD, no need to make like they're married now.
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 2/18/2025, 12:26 PM
@Cryptonautaz - For real. I wouldn’t be shocked if Jennifer showed up in a future season but they live in opposite ends of the country.
BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 2/18/2025, 1:05 PM
@Cryptonautaz - some people think that "they had sex once" means "they are married".
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 2/18/2025, 1:19 PM
@Cryptonautaz - Yeh it realy did not need anyone mansplaining why a woman needed to be ignored, a one night stand or even full past relationship is only ever mentioned when it is relevant like the user here who never mentioned until an Agatha all Along article that he dated Aubrey Plaza once. Would have been REALY weird to blurt that out anywhere other than when she was the focus of an article and not all would even do that.

They are both lawyers and both action heroes, in comics that is more than enough reason they would meet and have a brief thing even if they are too similar or polar opposites and any character having a cameo in someone elses comic/show is going to fit into the tone of that comic/show.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 2/18/2025, 1:33 PM
@BabyLasagna - LORD willing, they should be, but society doesn't like to acknowledge that. Jesus is Lord!
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/18/2025, 12:25 PM
she took avantage of that poor blind man and gave his walking stick radiation with her shrek Hu55y
BrainySleep
BrainySleep - 2/18/2025, 12:27 PM
Okay
krayzeman
krayzeman - 2/18/2025, 12:29 PM
You're thinking way to deep into this just to make an article. This never had to be something ongoing and to complete the arc a scene in Daredevil with Walters would be nice just to acknowledge in universe that it happened. I liked their chemistry but to be this is what a comic book story would be with unlikely characters crossovers in a book. Not that serious. If anything Walters tone would have to change in the Daredevil show because now she is on his home turf.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 2/18/2025, 12:30 PM
Have you ever read a comic book with a character guest starting in someone else's book? That's how Matt was written in She-Hulk. That was totally normal. Just say you weren't a fan. I think he should at least acknowledge her in a throwaway line.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/18/2025, 12:31 PM
Was Matt in She Hulk that different then how we saw him in NWH or even how he seems in Born Again?.

Different tones bring out different sides of the character…

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I enjoyed the Matt & Jen relationship in She Hulk personally but I do think there’s no need to reference it since it’s not relevant to the plot.

I swear , for people that read comics apparently the fact that it’s hard for some to wrap around that characters can exist in different tones is mind boggling to me since it happens all the time there.

You can have preferences sure but one take is not more valid then the others.
epc1122
epc1122 - 2/18/2025, 12:39 PM
@TheVisionary25 - so true!
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/18/2025, 12:35 PM
"Seeing Charlie Cox act silly as Daredevil and make jokes in the costume felt, to me, like watching Luke Skywalker throw away the lightsaber in Star Wars: The Last Jedi. It was simply wrong, a disservice to a beloved character."

This is the most based take Chandler has ever had.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 2/18/2025, 12:43 PM
@McMurdo -

*Josh has ever had.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/18/2025, 1:53 PM
@McMurdo - He may have read Daredevil comics, but he's obviously not read a lot of them if this is what he thinks. Even as recently as Mark Waid's Daredevil, Matt was making jokes and having fun in the costume.
skidz
skidz - 2/18/2025, 12:35 PM
Who the hell called it a 'romance'?! It was basically a one night stand that didn't go anywhere. There's nothing to ignore.
MisterBones
MisterBones - 2/18/2025, 12:39 PM
Its not that deep. DD gets butt, always has. It was a one night stand.
abd00bie
abd00bie - 2/18/2025, 12:39 PM
Do you kiss and tell over a hook up?
PC04
PC04 - 2/18/2025, 12:41 PM
DAREDEVIL SMASH!
JayLemle
JayLemle - 2/18/2025, 12:41 PM
WHile I'm not mad at the romance plot between he and She-Hulk, I'm glad that won't be a feature of the new show. The tone wouldn't match. Plus, if there's talk about the Legacy Netflix characters returning, doesn't Mister Murdock have two ladies from past relationships? (The redhead, and Rosario Dawson).
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/18/2025, 12:44 PM
@JayLemle - bring back Claire..

I enjoyed her!!.

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You could ten officially turn her into Night Nurse too
JayLemle
JayLemle - 2/18/2025, 12:55 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Rosario Dawson is just as fine as she was in "He Got Game!" Excluding the looks, I loved her in the Netflix shows. Her acting and intermingling with the Defenders was a highlight of all the shows.

I also would not be surprised if they bring back Jessica, Luke, and any relevant characters if the actors are really supposed to make a return. I don't think Finn Jones and his show would be as lucky.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/18/2025, 12:58 PM
@JayLemle - I hope Finn makes a return since his appearance in LC S2 was peak and showed with the right writing & direction , he can do well.

Also with Born Again making the Netflix shows apparently truly canon then I feel like he would have to if they bring Iron Fist in.
JayLemle
JayLemle - 2/18/2025, 1:04 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I liked Iron Fist! I don't understand why people hated it so much. In turn though, people don't see why I didn't like the Jessica Jones seasons as much (her show's pace was sluggish). I hope Finn returns though. Disney can clean those two Netflix seasons up with a new show on D+, easily.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 2/18/2025, 12:44 PM
It wasn’t a one night stand since he was literally at the family picnic at the end, or did I dream that part with Skaar showing up?

She-Hulk was a bad fever dream.
BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 2/18/2025, 1:05 PM
@HulkisHoly - FWB 👌🏽
rychlec
rychlec - 2/18/2025, 12:52 PM
It's guaranteed to come up in Secret Wars as a fun reference.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 2/18/2025, 12:57 PM
Cool. The tone just doesn't fit this take on the character despite some of DD's more lighthearted adventures in the comic.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 2/18/2025, 1:01 PM
The thing that’s great about the comics is the relative canon specific to each run. You can get an ongoing Punisher series with a pop-in from Spider-Man in the 50th issue, in which *that* Spidey is canonically the same Spidey as the one in his own series, and the meeting is canon to The Punisher series, but the Spider-Man series may never acknowledge it. So if you’re only reading Spider-Man, his meeting with Punisher has zero relevance to his own series and doesn’t matter if it’s canon or not.

The MCU has become something similar now. Sure, She-Hulk and DD is canon to She-Hulk, but it doesn’t really have an impact on DD’s story and from a narrative perspective might as well not even be canon. It is if you want it to be, and it isn’t if you don’t want it to be. Until/unless She-Hulk shows up in Daredevil’s series, it doesn’t really matter.

That’s always been one of the fun things about reading the comics.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/18/2025, 2:01 PM
@SheepishOne - THIS!! This a lot! This x (a very large number)!

Lotta fans don't seem to get this.
Robert Pattinson's Batman could cross over into James Gunn's Superman and fight aliens and as long as it's never once referenced in a Matt Reeves movie or TV show, it doesn't matter.
BabyLasagna
BabyLasagna - 2/18/2025, 1:03 PM
Clearly this dude never had a one night stand.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 2/18/2025, 1:08 PM
🤦🏾This is like saying not mentioning Kate Bishop is ignoring her, or if Peter Parker's identity were still known, not bringing him up is ignoring him.

She-Hulk never made it seem like they were a budding item or anything. They had her do a walk of shame to explicitly show it was a one-night stand.

As many have said, characters are adjusted for the tone of the main character.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/18/2025, 2:02 PM
@MyCoolYoung - *him
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 2/18/2025, 1:10 PM
Good. She Hulk was a show about horny women that hate man made by horny women that hate men for horny women that hate men
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/18/2025, 2:03 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - It was actually a show about sexually frustrated men that hate women. You didn't watch it did you?
Order66
Order66 - 2/18/2025, 1:13 PM
Acknowledge it in Doomsday or Secret Wars. That’s all it needs. Don’t act like it didn’t happen. That’s just bad story telling.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 2/18/2025, 1:23 PM
@Order66 - Literaly only needs a hi, how are you momentary embrace with a questioning side eye from someone else, that's it. Maybe a how do you two know each other and an awkward reply about a case but that's about it cos not like it is normal to say 'we fracked one time'.
TheDarkNiteWing
TheDarkNiteWing - 2/18/2025, 1:20 PM
You forgot about his appearance in Echo. Also I don't need their relationship to come up again in any real way. It looks like Born Again might interfere with his timeline though which is kind of annoying.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 2/18/2025, 1:31 PM
I'd more call it a fling
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 2/18/2025, 1:47 PM
I disagree vehemently. Love or Hate She-Hulk...Their chemistry was undeniable.
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/18/2025, 1:52 PM
This article is phucking insane.
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