DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Star Jon Bernthal Explains Why He Walked Away From Original Version Of The Series

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Star Jon Bernthal Explains Why He Walked Away From Original Version Of The Series

Jon Bernthal has revealed that he initially had no interest in the original version of Daredevil: Born Again, but decided to return to the production after the creative overhaul...

By MarkCassidy - Mar 18, 2025 11:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

Jon Bernthal made his long-awaited return as Frank Castle during tonight's episode of Daredevil: Born Again, but it seems The Punisher wasn't going to be a part of the original version of the Disney+ series - because the actor had decided to walk away!

During an interview with EW, Bernthal spoke about reprising the role after playing the volatile vigilante in two seasons of the Netflix series and his own Punisher spin-off show.

"It was like, Let's see if this works. Let's see if there's a real openness and a hunger to let Frank be what Frank is, which is dark enough to have the courage and the boldness to turn your back on the audience and to make it difficult, to make it enormously psychologically complex and to steer away from any cuteness or humor and to really go full bore."

Though he doesn't specify, it may have been a more toned down take on Castle that ultimately led to Bernthal's decision to decline Marvel Studios' offer to return for the pre-creative overhaul Born Again.

"Ultimately, I didn't see it. I didn't see the version of Frank, and what they wanted from Frank [didn't] really make sense to me and I thought would not appeal to the fans and wouldn't be congruent," the actor explains. "It was not something I was really interested in doing. So we had to walk away."

"Sometimes you have to be very, very clear with your intentions in this business," he adds. "You can't get confused with how much you love something, how much you love playing something, how much you want to do something. You got to make sure you're serving it. You got to make sure you're doing justice to the people that believe in it and doing justice to the iterations that have come before you."

Thankfully, Marvel agreed, bringing on new lead writers and Bernthal's The Punisher scribe and executive producer Dario Scardapane as showrunner. "They really brought me into the conversation," Bernthal says. "We really got specific about where Frank is psychologically, where Frank's at physically."

What did you make of Castle's return in tonight's Daredevil: Born Again? Drop us a comment down below.

In Marvel Television's Daredevil: Born Again, Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox), a blind lawyer with heightened abilities is fighting for justice through his bustling law firm, while former mob boss Wilson Fisk (Vincent D'Onofrio) pursues his own political endeavors in New York. When their past identities begin to emerge, both men find themselves on an inevitable collision course.

The show also stars Margarita Levieva, Deborah Ann Woll, Elden Henson, Zabryna Guevara, Nikki James, Genneya Walton, Arty Froushan, Clark Johnson, Michael Gandolfini, with Ayelet Zurer and Jon Bernthal. Dario Scardapane is on board as showrunner.

Episodes are directed by Justin Benson & Aaron Moorhead, Michael Cuesta, Jeffrey Nachmanoff, and David Boyd; and executive producers are Kevin Feige, Louis D’Esposito, Brad Winderbaum, Sana Amanat, Chris Gary, Dario Scardapane, Christopher Ord & Matthew Corman, and Justin Benson & Aaron Moorhead.

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Gambito
Gambito - 3/19/2025, 12:06 AM
Get off your horse Jon you don’t own the Punisher shit up say your lines and cash the check man, Thomas Jane is still available if you don’t wanna play ball
DTor91
DTor91 - 3/19/2025, 12:32 AM
@Gambito - Soooooo you take issue with someone who wants to take the character seriously enough for them to be presented in the right manner?

Even if the logic of Thomas Jane was an option, do you not remember Dirty Laundry? If Punisher were to stay watered down he wouldn’t do it either.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/19/2025, 3:26 AM
@Gambito - As far as I read, he didn't say he owned the character, and if he doesn't want to play the role, why should he.
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 3/19/2025, 5:51 AM
@Gambito - God forbid, someone be passionate about the role they play and not just take a paycheck and mentally not inhabit the role.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/19/2025, 9:17 AM
@Gambito - One decent paycheck doesn't count for much if the role kills your career if it is BAD and if your heart isn't in a role your not likely to bring your best to the table. There are many actors who care little about fiscal returns and far more about only taking on roles they a passionate about and there is nothing wrong with that cos happyness and pride in your work is way more important than getting rich.
Killuminatic
Killuminatic - 3/19/2025, 10:04 AM
@Gambito - lmfao, and then you’ll cry about the company giving you a shitty product. Some strange people on this site…

Imagine not wanting an actor that’s passionate about the role they’re playing and wanting to portray it as accurately as possible to not only try and serve the character itself, but the fans also.
BackwardGalaxy
BackwardGalaxy - 3/20/2025, 9:00 AM
@Gambito - touch grass
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 3/19/2025, 12:18 AM
Keep the Horse run my friend Jon ..you my boY OWN the Punisher ..Is yours Forever
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 3/19/2025, 12:21 AM
Wasn’t he said to be returning in like March of 2023? The overhaul didn’t happen til the end of that year, did he just walk out during shooting?
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 3/19/2025, 12:23 AM
@OmegaBlack13 - he was shooting AND then Alex Baldwin heard they WORd shooting AND....well...you can imagine whats going on
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/19/2025, 4:22 AM
@OmegaBlack13 - It's suspect.

Hollywood PR, especially from Marvel it seems, is just as insincere as politics these days. It shouldn't be. But I guess they take it too seriously because there's money involved or whatever. I don't know, maybe when they lose all their money they might stop being so cold and remember that they're in the business of entertainment.

The truth seems to be that the majority of season 1 is exactly the same. The only reshoots were not to improve the quality but to add more Netflix characters and align it with Netflix continuity because there was an outcry from the fans and Marvel panicked.

So either Frank was never a part of this and Bernthal was simply never even asked to return, or like you surmise he was always included and he's being asked to bullshit us.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/19/2025, 7:35 AM
@OmegaBlack13 -
He's lying.

Episode 2-6/7 were all part of the original shoot and are seemingly unchanged, meaning this episode was the original shoot.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 3/19/2025, 12:23 AM
Idk, I like when actors are protective of their roles. As comic fans, we all have certain characters we feel protective of. If someone is playing that character on screen, I’d hope they’d feel the same, rather than just cashing another check.
DTor91
DTor91 - 3/19/2025, 12:32 AM
@SheepishOne - this
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/19/2025, 3:04 AM
This episode wasn't reshot though. So how does this make any sense? This would imply Punisher was added to ep4 but we know the dirty cops with the skull symbols were in the original pre overhaul episodes.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/19/2025, 3:25 AM
@McMurdo - Maybe the cops with the punisher symbols were there, but they didn't have Punisher the character, which may seem off writing wise, but ya never know.
Knightrider
Knightrider - 3/19/2025, 3:56 AM
@McMurdo - I think what we’ve been told about the overhaul of the show may not be the true story.

It isn looking more and more like this show was massively reshot.

They 100% were going to do a comedic tone and they ain’t no way this new violent version can simply slot in with just two new episodes added
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/19/2025, 4:26 AM
@McMurdo - exactly. Hollywood PR gonna bullshit.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/19/2025, 6:15 PM
@Knightrider - it isn't looking that way at all. We knew most of the episodes post the first were lawyer episodes pre overhaul and the WGA confirmed Scardapane only wrote eps 1, 8, and 9.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/19/2025, 3:52 AM
Cold calculative Punisher > emotionally unhinged Punisher
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/19/2025, 4:27 AM
inb4 the lie gets deeper.
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 3/19/2025, 5:00 AM
The episode was good but the writers made their first major misstep having Ava Ayala not blame Murdoch for exposing Hector's secret ID. Anyone would go there so it fails psychologically.

And the actress is more tiny than I thought. Is she even 5'? It is going to be so hilarious when she suits up. HAHAHA!
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/19/2025, 7:43 AM
@PartyKiller -
The absolute frick you mean 'first major misstep'? The show's writing is garbage, every returning character is assassinated.

Vanessa, defined by her love for Fisk, cheated on him off-screen and no longer loves him and values the business as a priority and has become the Queenpin - better than Kingpin in every way.

Kingpin has been turned into a cuck, incompetent at what he does, not caring for his business or remotely doing anything of importance. So inept at what he does he tells a guy to 'fill a hole' rather than understanding everything about the process behind it and has to have a lacky praising him constantly.

Matt Murdoch abandons his role as Daredevil and ditches Hell's Kitchen, the place he cared deeply about, to move to New York where he actively criticizes and exposes White Tiger and gets him killed by failing to offer him any protection. He destroys his nature as a lawyer by going against his own remarks and they butcher the court scene so badly. He's also the active lawyer now for three prominant vigilantes - Punisher, Spider-man and White Tiger, you'd think coupled with him exposing his true nature through the fight with the two corrupt cops that he'd be on trial with his identity exposed as Daredevil.

Karen who knows the deep insecurities of Matt and that when he pushes you away you need to stand by him, decides to ditch Matt when he's begging for her help.

Foggy who has had Matt being Daredevil for over a decade decides to suddenly repeat his mistakes from a prior series to house someone under the excuse of not wanting to give Matt a reason to be Daredevil. I guess he also forgot about his fricking wife-to-be Marci Stahl? This gets his client in danger and gets him killed - and god help us all if they bring Foggy back as if he faked his death his actions resulted in Daredevil trying to kill someone and have now directly contributed to a lot of deaths.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/19/2025, 6:17 PM
@Scarilian - damn. You nailed it man. Agree on all accounts.
MisterBones
MisterBones - 3/19/2025, 6:33 AM
I like how passionate he is about the character, but I do think he leans more toward an unhinged punisher when more often than not punisher is also cold and cunning rather than unstable. More abrupt and not as openly bare.

Still, his performance is always damn good.
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 3/19/2025, 9:10 AM
@MisterBones - I think this version of Frank fits the series mold. If he was always cold and one-note, it wouldn't make for compelling episodic viewing.
MisterBones
MisterBones - 3/19/2025, 9:55 AM
@JoeInTheBox - I agree. DD and the Netflix world was very concerned with digging into the pathos of these characters and that requires a level of emotion. I do have a soft spot for the Punisher that is an unemotive killing machine.
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 3/19/2025, 1:18 PM
@MisterBones - Yeah, I liked at least all movie adaptations of Frank to varying degrees, because it worked for a 90+ minute runtime.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/19/2025, 6:19 PM
@MisterBones - yeah Berthal just plays him like a dude having a nervous breakdown. He's the opposite of calculated. But that's probably on the writing.
MisterBones
MisterBones - 3/19/2025, 6:27 PM
@McMurdo - I do hope as he keeps playing the character they lean into the calculating punisher who plans every single detail and has a contingency for everything
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 3/20/2025, 2:19 AM
Well let's hope it goes well because Daredevil Born Again has a lower viewership than Echo currently. Agatha all along bad a higher viewership. The weekly episode model does not work for Marvel.

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