DAREDEVIL Showrunner Steven S. DeKnight On Charlie Cox Joining The MCU And Whether The Series Is Canon

DAREDEVIL Showrunner Steven S. DeKnight On Charlie Cox Joining The MCU And Whether The Series Is Canon

Steven S. DeKnight was the showrunner for the first season of Daredevil, and he's now revealed if he'd like to return to work on the character and comments on whether the Netflix series are MCU canon.

By JoshWilding - Dec 09, 2021 05:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

Steven S. DeKnight served as showrunner on the first season of Daredevil, but later departed the series before the second batch of episodes arrived on Netflix. Often credited for the best and worst parts of the show, DeKnight has frequently expressed interest in returning to the Man Without Fear's world. 

After Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige recently confirmed that Charlie Cox's Matt Murdock is officially part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, DeKnight took to Twitter to share his reaction. 

As you can see below, the filmmaker is clearly pleased for Cox and remains open to perhaps working on another Daredevil project, whether it be a continuation of the series or something new. On that point, DeKnight would later add that he has no idea whether the show is actually considered "canon" now. We're guessing not, though there might be a few vague references to certain plot points.

That will disappoint some fans, but it's inevitable in many ways; after all, why would Marvel Studios want to be beholden to some of the less than stellar creative and casting decisions made by Marvel Television (just look at how poorly The Hand was used). We'll see, but for now, rumours continue to swirl about Cox returning as Matt Murdock in Spider-Man: No Way Home next week!

Check out DeKnight's Tweets below:
 

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Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 12/9/2021, 6:04 AM
I would also do anything for Cox. (If I can find an opening.)

(But even if it's hard, I would try my best to fit him in.)
globaltravels
globaltravels - 12/9/2021, 6:23 AM
@Spock0Clock - clapping gif
generictheeric
generictheeric - 12/9/2021, 12:35 PM
@Spock0Clock -





RokoVII
RokoVII - 12/9/2021, 6:09 AM
There isnt a reason for it not to be canon, right?
Fares
Fares - 12/9/2021, 6:35 AM
@RokoVII - Probably not. They were very tame with MCU references and influences. Even Defenders didn't do anything too implactful. Which I think was the right thing to do from the beginning.
RokoVII
RokoVII - 12/9/2021, 6:37 AM
@Fares - true true
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/9/2021, 6:44 AM
@RokoVII - I think timeline-wise it doesn't add up. It moves beyond 2018 like Thanos and the Snap never happened. Not even a mention of it. That is kinda strange
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 12/9/2021, 6:49 AM
@Fares - Season 1 had quite a few references to the first Avengers movie. They made references to the battle of New York and the Avengers. And what's his name had newspapers on his wall referencing the Incredie Hulk movie.

Having said that, it still doesn't mean that even season 1 of DD didn't take place in an alternate dimension where very similar things could have hhappened.

I think the earlier reports we got about the Netflix shows will end up being accurate. They won't come out and say that none of those things from the Netflix shows happened, but they won't reference any of it or treat it like it happened either.
Fares
Fares - 12/9/2021, 6:59 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Yeah even those references to the battle of New York, Thor's hammer and Hulk are still very minimal and don't cause any continuity issues in my mind. I don't mind it being adopted into the MCU at this point.
JohnCastillo
JohnCastillo - 12/9/2021, 7:12 AM
@Fares - Early Netflix Marvel stuff was full of MCU nuggets. They kept going on about The Battle of New York. Especially Daredevil season 1 and Jessica Jones. A woman straight up tried to murder Jessica Jones because Jones is a superhero and her son had died as collateral damage in the Battle of New York lol. Jones said something like “go take it up with the big green guy or Captain America, I wasn’t there!”. So it was definitely more than just a nod. Thing is all those old Marvel shows like Agents of Shield, Daredevil etc. They were for themselves officially in the MCU universe, but the actual MCU never ever acknowledged them. Agents of Shield had Coulson, Maria Hill, Nick Fury, Lady Sif and more characters which is pretty huge but it was never seen as huge lol. Netflix stuff mentioned the events of the first Avengers film a lot, but never any characters.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 12/9/2021, 11:18 AM
@RokoVII - NY is a big place and in real life explosions and crime happen all the time. They could easily make it Canon by having Fisk escape Prison during the Blip.
Fares
Fares - 12/9/2021, 6:36 AM
LSHF
LSHF - 12/9/2021, 6:40 AM
QUESTION (BUT FIRST): In Daredevil Season 3, Episode 13 "A New Napkin" (the last episode), both Matt and Dex went to Wilson's wedding with the intent of killing him. But, Matt would also fight Dex to keep Dex from killing Wilson, which was confusing to me, because if he just pretended to try to stop Dex but actually allowed him to kill Wilson, Matt could have got what he wanted and NOT been blamed for it.

So, does anybody know why Matt tried to stop Dex from killing Wilson (whom he wanted dead, anyway)?

Maybe I missed some dialogue or scene that explained this.

Thanks.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/9/2021, 6:46 AM
@LSHF - I thought before the fight Matt came to the realization (for some reason I remember his mom convincing him not to) Fisk must face justice. Then it would make sense he didn't want Fisk dead going into the fight
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 12/9/2021, 6:47 AM
@LSHF - I think bkmeijer is right (or at least it's something very close to that). But in general whenever Daredevil does something that seems inconsistent and self-defeating, I just say to myself:

LSHF
LSHF - 12/9/2021, 7:41 AM
@bkmeijer - Thank you. That makes sense.
LSHF
LSHF - 12/9/2021, 7:41 AM
@Spock0Clock - Thank you. Lol.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/9/2021, 6:47 AM
I'm kinda starting to hope Kingpin('s network) is gonna become the endgame of the street-level stuff in the MCU. Hawkeye, Spider-Man, She-Hulk, Echo. It's not hard to imagine how it ties all to him.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 12/9/2021, 7:26 AM
Canon is such a frustrating thing
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 12/9/2021, 7:52 AM
@BlackBeltJones - Every scholar of Religious Studies nods.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 12/9/2021, 8:19 AM
@Spock0Clock -

TheLobster
TheLobster - 12/9/2021, 7:38 AM
There’s no way the Netflix series is canon
theprophet
theprophet - 12/9/2021, 7:55 AM
Everyone loves Cox
ChimiFnChangas
ChimiFnChangas - 12/9/2021, 8:12 AM
@theprophet -
Eli
Eli - 12/9/2021, 9:30 AM
Disney can retcon all they want, but they can't change the past: The Netflix shows were originally presented as canon and there have been no official statements since that time to the contrary.

If Marvel wants to separate them now, then fine. But until that is done so directly and in unambiguous language, let's not pretend what the original intent was.

Regardless of current spin and semi-retcons, the original intent of the shows like AoS and the Netflix stuff was to be a canonical part of the MCU. Just do a search on the subject for 2012-2016 and you'll find literally dozens of interviews with Feige saying as such over and over. Here's just ONE example from 2013:

"Well, Jeph Loeb, who runs the TV division for Marvel, is in charge of that show, and is doing a great job of overseeing that show, and the studio’s involvement in that is limited to them going “Hey, we’re thinking of doing something like this, is that ok?” and we’ll go yay or nay. But I’ll say that it’s a smart question, and it’ll probably happen sooner than you realize. I think that’s part of the fun they’re having with that show is that IT INHABITS THE SAME UNIVERSE, so if there’s a big event, there’ll be ripples."

https://www.slashfilm.com/kevin-feige-suggests-phase-2-will-have-agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-ramifications-plus-non-network-tv-shows-secret-identity-movie/

Or maybe from 2016 when Feige was asked about more crossovers during Phase 2:

"It’s about finding the right way to do that. And the honest answer is, movies are developed so far in advance that a lot of those things [Inhumans, Hydra monsters, etc.] weren’t done when we started to film [Captain America: Civil War]."

https://mcuexchange.com/kevin-feige-doesnt-want-anybody-handcuffed-by-marvel-television-and-film-crossovers/

And again, there are years of quotes like this.

Seriously, their marketing slogan during that period was literally “IT’S ALL CONNECTED!”
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 12/9/2021, 1:01 PM
If it is canon, that means The Defenders is canon, which means Luke Cage is canon, which means things could get awkward:



Granted, it wouldn't be the first time that actors have played multiple roles in MCU, but those roles are either very minor or different enough to notice. For example, no one turned heads seeing Gemma Chan in Eternals after she played a blue alien for 3 minutes in Captain Marvel. Mahershala's two roles however, are quite significant.
PC04
PC04 - 12/9/2021, 2:42 PM
Now we just need my man John Bernthal to come back and crack some skulls.
sully
sully - 12/9/2021, 3:35 PM
As long as its been established that there is a Multiverse, literally everything can be canon. Not sure why people don't understand this concept.
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