ECHO Ending Explained: Maya Lopez's New Status Quo And What It Means For DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN - SPOILERS

ECHO Ending Explained: Maya Lopez's New Status Quo And What It Means For DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN - SPOILERS

We're taking a deep dive into Echo's finale to better explain what Maya Lopez's status quo means for the wider MCU and how that conclusion sets the stage for The Kinpin's role in Daredevil: Born Again.

By JoshWilding - Jan 10, 2024 10:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Echo

All five episodes of Echo are now streaming on Disney+, and like many Marvel Studios TV shows, the finale wraps up perhaps a little too quickly. We're sure you have some big questions after watching it, anyway, so let's take a deep dive into that ending. 

Having rejected The Kingpin's offer to rejoin him, Maya Lopez confronts her "uncle" at the Choctaw Powwow. He's planning to take his revenge by killing her people and those closest to her, including Maya's grandmother and cousin (it's never revealed how Wilson Fisk knows about Bonnie). 

While Uncle Henry and Biscuits deal with The Kingpin's goons - who planned to kill countless innocents at the Powwow - Maya channels powers passed down by her Choctaw ancestors to stop Fisk in his tracks when he moves in for the kill. 

In this instance, she uses her mother's healing powers to try and fix Kingpin's childhood trauma and make him a better man. He largely seems to reject her attempt, though something within him looks to have changed. We'll come back to that. 

Maya has access to various abilities (teased throughout those early episodes), making her not quite superhuman but certainly powerful. However, as the series ends, we're left in the dark about what's next for her. The Kingpin appears to give up his quest to bring her back in line or take any sort of revenge, allowing Maya to enjoy a meal with her family. 

For the time being, it seems she'll remain at home to reconnect with the family she left behind as a child. Daredevil: Born Again feels like the best possible place to pick back up with her, though a rumoured appearance from the Man Without Fear with Maya returning to New York to become a P.I. never materialises. 

It wouldn't have made a great deal of sense to end on that note even if it would have guaranteed Echo a place in the upcoming series. This could be where Maya's story ends and, if so, what a waste. Then again, we all briefly thought Kingpin was done for after Hawkeye

In a post-credits scene, we catch up with a rattled Kingpin and watch as he tells his assistant to schedule a meeting with his "remaining heads before the situation spirals out of control." He clearly has no intention to give up his criminal enterprise but may have been affected by Maya enough to try and do some good...well, what he considers to be good. 

Watching a news report, Kingpin learns that New York wants a Mayoral candidate who can do what's necessary to make them feel safe again and deal with the Big Apple's problems; needless to say, we'd be shocked if that's not referencing vigilantes and superheroes. 

The stage is set for Fisk to run for Mayor and, based on what we know about Daredevil: Born Again, he'll be setting out to rid the city of superheroes. That should be good for business and may be enough for 'ol Hornhead to eventually seek help from a certain web-slinger...

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/10/2024, 10:48 AM
I liked the first episode. The intro is pretty cool. I like the Marvel Spotlight logo. Second episode has 11 credited writers.. episode two was meh, just one big train sequence we've seen before. Episode three was the best so far. Episode 4 was the second-best for me. Episode 5.. didn't care much for it. I got black Widow vibes and then the power rangers team up with the made up powers in the barn made me giggle.
The MA rating was just for copious amounts of fake blood and a headshot, so anyone saying this was a game-changer because of the subject matter or grit is full of it.
This is definitely a cut up film script. Episode three is the end of act two lol. I didn't care too much for the subplot with the ancestors and her made up powers. Don't like how close she is to Taskmaster? Then don't give her a show! Ffs. Kingpin was great as always, I knew Daredevil would barely appear but it's not their show so that doesn't matter as much, but he was all over the marketing just like he was in She Hulk. Part of me thinks they delayed this until after Killers of the Flower Moon came out for obvious reasons lol. I'd give it a 6. nothing spectacular, nothing groundbreaking, and a very underwhelming finale.. now call me a shill so we can move tf on to the next mediocre show. Loki still reigns Supreme by a long shot. The only water cooler talk from this show will be about the made up powers and how she beat up Kingpin twice... now cue the Disney bots
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/10/2024, 10:51 AM
Let this be the last article, you're milking it like always for a two hour TV series HAHA
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/10/2024, 11:00 AM
@bobevanz - what is this? article 104 since 5am this morning about this show? Geez, give it a break.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/10/2024, 11:07 AM
@bobevanz - Marvel Studios Echo.

WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 1/10/2024, 10:54 AM
The Kinpin

Sounds like a Japanese candy
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/10/2024, 10:59 AM
Marvel Studios Echo was great fun. Gets a :)

WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 1/10/2024, 11:06 AM
@AllsGood - not even close to as much fun as Loki S2. Just a mid-level, disjointed and clumsy entry. Still watched it but hopefully Marvel has learned from their mistakes in storytelling after this. Knocked it out of the park with Loki, Echo is a sacrifice fly at best
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/10/2024, 11:14 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - Marvel Studios Loki Season 2 was slow and boring. Took almost a month after the Season ended for me to watch the whole show.
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 1/10/2024, 11:18 AM
@AllsGood - ahh you let Loki breathe like a good bottle of wine and savored it for the vintage it was. Echo on the other hand was an ok cup of grape juice. Wasn’t bad but wished it was wine.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/10/2024, 11:25 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - Marvel Studios Loki Season 2 wasn't for me. I even had to fast forward through some of the episodes. Echo was well paced never got bored.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/10/2024, 11:08 AM
How did they not explain Kingpin's circumstances post DD season 3? He went to jail. Sure, you assume the Blip allowed him to get out, but you should illustrate that. Makes you think the decision to have Netflix Daredevil be canon was not a deliberate, long decided one. Like they did it as damage control during reshoots. The DD show can still fill in these gaps and they should if they've got 18 episodes.

Giving Maya these powers also seems off. Does everyone need to have SUPER-powers? Idk maybe I am wrong, but for her to be in the street level corner of things you would think the the power sets of the characters would be a little more grounded. I think the investment in how well of a fighter she is should've been better and prioritized. Like, just beyond karate classes. Fisk should've seen a distinct ability of her to copy opponents and invested in her training in a big way. She has a "talent" (like Fisk saw in Bullseye) that needs to be cultivated and used. She's just an angry girl who happens to be a good fighter in this.

"Maya has access to various abilities (teased throughout those early episodes), making her not quite superhuman"

I am all for exploring the Native heritage, its interesting but her powers do not seem as interesting (or well defined) as her comic set.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/10/2024, 11:17 AM
@GhostDog - I feel like that's why Daredevil born again is being completely overhauled. We will get that backstory. Even if it's a simple "Fisk escaped during the Blip and his men stole his case file and killed the lawyers involved allowing him to have a completely clean slate again" this is why Daredevil is working overtime to bring him to justice.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 1/10/2024, 11:20 AM
@GhostDog - It definitely wasn’t. This was a spur of the moment thing, obvious everybody from the cast to Feige would’ve jumped at the opportunity to promote Born Again as a sequel series, and those Netflix shows would’ve been added to the official MCU timeline already.

Marvel’s moving like WB/DC lately, course correcting like crazy and throwing whatever at the wall to see what sticks, and I’m not here for it.

Fingers crossed 🤞 they don’t [frick] up Born Again because that’s not something they’ll be able to walk back from like that.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/10/2024, 11:22 AM
@SonOfAGif - I can see that. Overhaul was a good thing in my eyes. That entails they know they had to fix or address some things they probably had not.

Also, your explanation sounds like some shit Fisk would do. I would not hate that. I assumed it was something like that and the Blip caused a cluster[frick] in the prisons. Fisk takes advantage, goes on the run, kills anyone not snapped away, and steals or manipulates records to assure he is not re-arrested. Rebuilds an empire during the Blip.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/10/2024, 11:26 AM
@FireandBlood - Agreed. The "here damn" acknowledgment of the Netflix stuff being accepted as canon by the movie folks feels like a band aid until they can see if they can truly fix their shit.

Not just saying this because Daredevil is my favorite hero ever, but I would argue he is beloved in a way that could argue the likes of Cap and Iron Man. If they [frick] that up, goodwill dries up more than it already has. You're basically going to be combatting the Netflix series the second that series drops. No coming back after that.
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 1/10/2024, 11:10 AM
dump after dump after dump
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 1/10/2024, 11:18 AM
Is she or Gaia the most powerful MCU character?
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 1/10/2024, 11:20 AM
They don’t even give a shit atp 🤦🏽‍♂️
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/10/2024, 11:28 AM
I've been blueballed twice today by the promise of a deep dive into Echo's powers, and I'm honestly quite dissappointed if this is it.

Anyway, even though it's pretty stand-alone I can see Echo return in Born Again. Just hope Daredevil is gonna be outshined by cameos. And speaking of those cameos, wasn't this show supposed to have cameos from MCU movies as well?
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 1/10/2024, 1:45 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I take it Ronin was counted as one. Also Daredevil
narrow290
narrow290 - 1/10/2024, 11:29 AM
Just finished the 1st episode and I really like it so far that DD fight was badass
Origame
Origame - 1/10/2024, 11:34 AM
Marvel: "this is the first series with the spotlight banner. Meaning it doesn't require you to watch other shows and movies and isn't gonna be impactful to the mcu"

Also marvel: "here's a post credits scene that sets up where we're going g for the next big show"
GodHercules20
GodHercules20 - 1/10/2024, 12:19 PM
Just kill Kingpin off already
noahthegrand
noahthegrand - 1/10/2024, 3:22 PM
@GodHercules20 - f-tier take
elcapitan
elcapitan - 1/10/2024, 1:52 PM
Did anyone else notice that Biscuit's truck had the steering wheel on the right side? I was wondering if they flipped the recording around or something, but it was shown twice so I'm assuming it's just a truck with the steering wheel on the right side. I've never seen one in the US.
JDL
JDL - 1/10/2024, 2:14 PM
@elcapitan - The Post Office has tons of them and when they get to a certain point used ones get sold to the public.
elcapitan
elcapitan - 1/10/2024, 6:05 PM
@JDL - But this was a pickup truck not a postal truck.
JDL
JDL - 1/10/2024, 7:16 PM
@elcapitan - Maybe a conversion ? Perhaps it saw the light and stopped bringing bills and switched to something nicer ? :)
JDL
JDL - 1/10/2024, 7:41 PM
@elcapitan - Just started Ep 2 and looked closer. It clearly says Postal Service on the pickup's passenger side door. Mystery Solved !

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