Is Finn Jones Teasing His Return As IRON FIST? MCU Fans Seem Convinced That's The Case

Is Finn Jones Teasing His Return As IRON FIST? MCU Fans Seem Convinced That's The Case

RUMOR: Marvel Studios Planning Female-Led IRON FIST Project; Danny Rand May Have A Supporting Role
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RUMOR: Marvel Studios Planning Female-Led IRON FIST Project; Danny Rand May Have A Supporting Role

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KennKathleen - 1/29/2024, 12:08 PM
Origame - 1/29/2024, 12:08 PM
And of course Josh is defending a female led iron fist show 🙄

And apparently "white savior" is something we need to avoid, yet we're the ones being racist 🤣
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 12:19 PM
@Origame - So you don’t see any issue in a non-white community being saved by a white person in such a way that suggests the non-white party lacked the competency or agency to do it on themselves? Or is this just simply another one of the many times you’re going to demonstrate how uneducated you are because you don’t actually know what a “white saviour” is?
Origame - 1/29/2024, 12:23 PM
@FireandBlood - ...when did that happen with Danny rand as iron fist? Ffs, his best friend is an indestructible black man.

Just presenting a white person as a hero doesn't make other groups automatically incompetent or without agency. Ffs, based on your logic you can't have any heroes because said hero will always be one race and that means every other race is incompetent and without agency.

I swear, your ideology just gets more idiotic the more you try to justify your clear double standards and hypocrisy.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 12:34 PM
@Origame - So because his best friend is black, that prevents him from being a white saviour? [frick] me, you’re pulling out all the cliches today, aren’t you?
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 12:35 PM
@Origame - Oh and that’s been a thing with Danny Rand since his conception. He’s the saviour and protector of K’un Lun, a mystical nation of Asian people. Or didn’t you know that either? 😂

You lack not only the social awareness to understand why stripping a non-white party of its competency and agency just to hand it over to a white person is problematic, but also the basic education to understand what’s problematic about it in the first. But then again, you are the guy that claims systemic racism doesn’t exist, so no surprise there.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 1:40 PM
@FireandBlood - ...really? So you're gonna ignore his best friend being a superhero just as capable and make this out like "black friend"?

Just admit you hate white people
Origame - 1/29/2024, 1:43 PM
@FireandBlood - and dude, those same people taught him how to fight. Not only that, but there have been plenty there who were protectors before Danny.

So by your own definition, how does that make Asians look incompetent?

And you're the guy that can't prove systemic racism exists.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 1:57 PM
@Origame - I’m half white. No, not my best friends white or my cousins boyfriend is white. I’m quite literally half white, so why would I hate white people? 😂

It’s always white supremacy or nothing with you lot, that’s the problem. Maybe you should admit that, and finally give up all the transparent dog whistling you do. It’s one thing being a racist, but a closet racist always peaking out? I see you struggling.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 2:11 PM
@FireandBlood - 1) yeah, and that literally only matters when proving you're not racist. Face it, by your own definition no character that is a white hero can avoid being a white savior. Meaning you're racist.

2) well that's what systemic racism is my dude.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 2:20 PM
@Origame - I don’t need to prove I’m not racist, because I’m not. You don’t see me dog whistling. I say what I have to say and I say it with chest. You’re the one who hasn’t got the balls to say what you really want to, because you already know where what you want to say is rooted in.

You don’t even know what systematic racism is, because you outright deny it’s existence but I’ll give you a hint; it was set up by the same people complaining about the “woke” agenda to literally prevent the “woke” agenda. You know, the very thing you are vehemently against. Because as we know, there’s only one type of person everything should cater to, even Snow White, and it ain’t no minority, or woman for that matter.

And yes, that is me also blatantly implying and now, outright stating, you’re a sexist, too.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 2:29 PM
@Origame - The Tl;dr to every one of your comments is “minorities and woman are ruining my entertainment” and you think because you say “all the entertainment written for minorities and woman is bad” it hides the fact the your actual problem is you just don’t want any woman or minority in anything but a insignificant supporting role in your entertainment.

Your entertainment being, btw, American Hollywood productions, because if it isn’t catering to you, then it’s not worth being made. Because this stuff should be made for white males first, and everyone else second and everyone else should like it anyway because white males do, and that’s the only standard that any of these productions should concern themselves with meeting.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 2:39 PM
@FireandBlood - 1) you kinda do. You stated that white savior was a trope that needed to be gone, and based on the definition you provided it means any white hero is automatically in that trope.

And f@#$ you. I say what I want to say. But I'm not a racist unlike you.

2) then what is systemic racism? Because it can't be a government with racist laws because we don't have those. It can't be a government run by openly racist people because that isn't the case. Based on what you're saying, systemic racism is literally just there are racists that exist. In which case, yeah. That's never not gonna be a thing. Especially if we tolerate racists like you 🤣
Origame - 1/29/2024, 2:42 PM
@FireandBlood - no. The tldr of my comment is that activists are ruining my entertainment. Plenty of women and minorities are making art I love. Like Jenna Ortega, Jordan peele, and Donnie yen.

And since this is about the netflix stuff, I've praised Jessica Jones and Luke cage, and the only show I've actually disliked was iron fist.

But sure, keep insisting I'm the racist one while arguing white people shouldn't be heroes 🤣
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 3:05 PM
@Origame - “You stated that white savior was a trope that needed to be gone”


“and based on the definition you provided it”

Based on the definition I provided, you now saying every white hero in existence is only ever saving a group of non-white people, and not white people? Go ahead, please demonstrate just how much more of an illiterate you are 🥴

And no, you don’t. If you’re having a good enough day to carefully articulate what you’re too scared to say, you’re still not saying what you really want to say. You just dance around it, because you’re far too pussy to be open about what you, to the point you literally spout your bollocks with the chest of a [frick]ing pigeon.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 3:07 PM
@Origame - “then what is systemic racism?

Ladies and gentlemen, the “teacher” 😂

[frick]ing Google it. Educate yourself. Read and read it properly, then reread it and then read it again with your illiterate ass, just to ensure you actually take it in because you struggle, and it shows.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 3:22 PM
@Origame - “Like Jenna Ortega, Jordan peele, and Donnie yen.”

Ooo, you picked one from every race there, and you really thought you was proving something by doing so. Please, tell me how much you don’t hate women because you like that one movie from 80s with the Xenomorphs in 😂🤣

Quote me where I said that the white saviour trope needs to go, let alone that there shouldn’t be any white heroes. I mean for ffs, my favourite is white. Every one knows this.

But it’s like you think because you don’t want anything but white heroes, that anybody that doesn’t subscribe to that backwards line of thinking doesn’t want white heroes. As I said, it’s white supremacy or nothing with you lot.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 3:25 PM
@FireandBlood - 1) literally your first comment.

2) well considering iron fist is a new York based superhero and saves many different groups, he either isn't a white savior or you just count any time a white hero saves a minority community, meaning it's basically unavoidable.

And don't try to say "they can just not help minorities" because you and I both know you'd be b!tching about them not bothering to save any black people too.

3) then what am I "really trying to say"? Huh? I dare you to say what you think I'm trying to say.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 3:27 PM
@FireandBlood - I literally highlighted all the ways our country isn't systemically racist right under saying that.

You insist I don't know what I'm talking about, then you explain what the term you're using means. Any teacher would tell you to do the same. And it's the most fair question to ask. Yet you never answered it.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 3:29 PM
@FireandBlood - dude, stfu. There is no way to prove I'm not a racist to you because you refuse to accept the truth. Meanwhile you haven't proven you don't hate white people outside of just stating part of you is apparently white. 🤣
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 3:36 PM
@Origame - Literally? You’re illiterate ass isn’t using that word the way your meant to, because I literally never said the white saviour needs to go, which is why you’re entirely incapable of quoting me.

Iron Fist isn’t a white saviour because he does, but exclusively, operates out of New York, but because he’s the protector and saviour of an Asian nation. Now you can act as wilfully dumb and obtuse as you want here, but that’s a fact, a fact the character LOVES to repeat.

FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 3:37 PM
@Origame - “And don't try to say "they can just not help minorities" because you and I both know you'd be b!tching about them not bothering to save any black people too.”

Why would I say that? God, I’ve gotta stop doing this with you. I’m quite literally having a debate with someone who has repeatedly shown that he’s a full on illiterate entirely incapable of debating anything with a lick of logic due to his severely underdeveloped frontal lobe, so I’m going to wrap this up and be done with it.

This issue of the white saviour trope isn’t that Iron Fist saves minorities. It’s that he was intentionally created to be the only person who can. Listen to what I’m saying. He’s not the saviour of a diverse group of people, he’s the saviour of a minority group who, because of his very existence, have been denied the agency to save themselves. Read that again, then again, again, and one more time for good measure, then let it marinate, m’kay?

It’s not what you’re really trying to say, it’s what you’re putting some much effort into really not, doing every jive known to mine just to dance around it. But you already know that.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 3:40 PM
@Origame - Here’s what I’m not going to do with you; play this make believe. Nope, sorry. We’re not doing that anymore and it’s gone on for far too long.

You’re not a teacher. You’re incapable of learning, let alone educating anybody else but besides that, you’re just far too stupid to be a teacher. A real sandwich short of a [frick]ing picnic type of stupid, like two planks of wood thick.

I’m sorry, I just can’t with your bollocks anymore. It’s silly, and we’re all silly for enabling you to go this far with it in the first place. A teacher, ffs 😂
Origame - 1/29/2024, 3:46 PM
@FireandBlood - 1) context buddy. That's exactly what you were communicating in that first comment. Why else would you be talking about the negative aspects of the character trope right after I said getting rid of the white savior trope is a dumb reason to not include Danny as the iron fist.

Also, yeah, he says that. Because that's his job. Whether in the show or in the comics, though, he doesn't actually protect kun lun and instead just goes to new York for literally all his adventures.

You're labeling him a white savior because of sh!t he doesn't even do in any incarnation of his 🤣

Also, again, the people of kun lun trained him. They are depicted as extremely competent.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 3:50 PM
@FireandBlood - you'd say that because you're desperate for victim points while being as racist as possible.

And no, he isn't. Anyone can kill the dragon and get the power of the iron fist, and several have in the past. You don't know what you're talking about in any way. In fact, his greatest adversary is someone who wanted to get the iron fist but Danny beat him to it.

And again, say it you racist motherf@#$er.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 3:52 PM
@Origame - “That's exactly what you were communicating in that first comment.”

Except it’s not. Reading comprehension, buddy. It will always and forever be your friend, if you let it. But let’s scroll back…

“So you don’t see any issue in a non-white community being saved by a white person in such a way that suggests the non-white party lacked the competency or agency to do it on themselves?”

That’s what I was asking, quite simply so as well. Yet you couldn’t answer, to no surprise. But not only could you not answer it, you’ve made a piss poor attempt at trying to twist it into something that was never said in the first place. 0/10, no effort made.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 3:53 PM
@FireandBlood - still not make believe. I am a teacher whether your racist a$$ believes me or not. And I can educate kids because they aren't brainwashed by a racist ideology like yours.

And again, f@#$ you. Go complain about white saviors while praising the big white savior, disney. They've literally been doing everything you've been complaining about, in real life, yet you don't seem to have a problem with it.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 3:54 PM
@Origame - The only person around these parts trying to built up his victim points is you when you start crying about people picking on your for being autistic, even though nobody even knew you was autistic in the first. Now that’s a first class victim mentality if I ever saw it. Lose an argument and pull a card that nobody saw coming.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 3:57 PM
@FireandBlood - much for being done with it.

Dude, again, context. My previous comment and your response makes it clear.

But oh wait, you're the guy who tried to take me out of context so it looked like I was showing echo to my students when I literally said I wasn't in that same sentence.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 3:58 PM
@Origame - There you go again, using another word in the wrong way, and this is why we’re all silly for letting you play this make believe teacher role in the first place. But I’m not going to enabling this type of behaviour with you anymore, and make no mistake. I’m not saying I don’t believe you. I’m outright saying you’re not a teacher, and you’re not fooling anyone.

[frick] Disney. I can assure you, whatever the [frick] Disney is doing now, tomorrow or the next day doesn’t bother me. I enjoy their products, and it’ll never be anything more than that, unless they pay me. But whatever the [frick] Disney is doing, it doesn’t matter because nobody except your weird ass is taking anything they do personally.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 3:59 PM
@FireandBlood - so you are plusultra. Really trying to build up to that next ban I see.

But of course, you're gonna paint that as because of racism while being the biggest racist in the room.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 4:00 PM
@Origame - I didn’t take you out of context, thicko. I quoted what I wrote, while you made up some shit I didn’t, all the while dodging the original question posed to you in the first place.
Origame - 1/29/2024, 4:01 PM
@FireandBlood - again, whatever. I'm a teacher, and your words ain't changing that.

And you say that now but come two seconds later when you're not being called out as a Disney simp you'll just be guzzling that mouse jizz.
Izaizaiza - 1/29/2024, 4:01 PM
@FireandBlood - I have to give you credit for your perseverance. Origame is aggressively illogical. It's impossible to educate him because he simply plays blind to reality. It's definitely! "Don't argue with idiots, because they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" kind of situation 🤷🏻‍♂️
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 4:03 PM
@Origame - This is that same account, actually. I changed my name, that’s all. I got banned under Batmaniac, 6 years ago.

And you keep on using that word, when the only person ever upset about a someone due to the colour of their skin is you. This isn’t one of those UNO reverse card situations, little bud. It doesn’t work that way.
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 4:07 PM
@Origame - Hey, call me out for a Disney simp if you want. That’s not something that’ll ever bother me 1) because I’m not and 2) that type of “insult” is entirely beneath me.

Oooo, a Disney simp. What will I ever do now I’ve been called that? What will the denizens of CBM think of me now? 😂
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 4:08 PM
@Izaizaiza - He doesn’t want to be educated, because he’s a classic example of a M4z KnowItAll, and what could someone who already knows it all possibly have left to learn? 🥴
FireandBlood - 1/29/2024, 4:09 PM
@Origame - I didn’t quote you, I quoted me. Omg, you’re literally not even reading what’s on the screen, are you? 😂
Origame - 1/29/2024, 4:11 PM
@FireandBlood - well, 1) if you aren't then why are you simping? And 2) yet you feel the need to defend yourself
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