LOKI Just Introduced An Obscure Comic Book Villain And It Could Have Major Consequences For The MCU - SPOILERS

LOKI Just Introduced An Obscure Comic Book Villain And It Could Have Major Consequences For The MCU - SPOILERS

Loki's latest episode definitely didn't play out quite the way we expected, but the surprise introduction of a new villain certainly seemed to lay the groundwork for a big reveal in next week's finale...

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By JoshWilding - Jul 07, 2021 02:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Loki

Well, it's fair to say we didn't see that coming, right? 

The penultimate episode of Loki didn't reveal the show's big bad, but it now seems inevitable that Kang the Conqueror will be introduced as the one responsible for the creation of the TVA. 

In "Journey Into Mystery," the God of Mischief found himself pitted against a giant creature made of smoke, and we're sure at least some of you started having flashbacks to comic book movie villains like Galactus and Parallax. However, Loki would later reveal that this was, in fact, Alioth, an obscure Mark Gruenwald creation first introduced in the pages of Avengers: The Terminatrix Objective #1.

Portrayed here as a "guard dog" for whoever resides in that castle, the version in the source material has an empire even bigger than Kang's, and the time-travelling bad guy had to create a barrier to stop the powerful being from entering his domain. Ravonna inadvertently released Alioth at one point, leading to an epic battle between the two for supremacy.

That's not something we're actually anticipating seeing in the Disney+ series, especially now that Alioth has been defeated. However, there are enough links between it and Kang for us to be pretty confident that the Conqueror will make his presence felt before all is said and done, thereby setting the stage for his story to continue in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania. 

Another big Kang nod in this week's episode was the fact that the destroyed Avengers Tower had been rebranded with the "Qeng" logo. The CEO of that company was Mister Gryphon, an alternate version of Nathaniel Richards, a.k.a. Kang the Conqueror. 

The pieces do seem to be falling into place for a Kang reveal, but it's best not to get too excited just yet; after all, Mephisto never did show up in WandaVision! 

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Repian
Repian - 7/7/2021, 2:25 AM
I think Miss Minutes is the villain. Perhaps she is the personification of time and from the beginning of time, for billions of millennia, she observed the chaos on every timeline. So she creates the TVA to keep order.
LSHF
LSHF - 7/7/2021, 4:05 AM
@Repian - And she is also having issues finding those files they wanted, which is suspicious.
globaltravels
globaltravels - 7/7/2021, 6:09 AM
@LSHF - she was so suspicious the whole episode
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 7/7/2021, 8:11 AM
@LSHF - I think she was just buying Ravonna some time with that. she was a hostage after all.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 7/7/2021, 8:52 AM
@Spidey91 - yeah she was just buying Ravonna some time, those files never actually existed.
ElricReturns
ElricReturns - 7/7/2021, 8:54 AM
@Repian - I think the villain is a Loki. It's like a Loki to create such an elaborate deception, and I think Ravona is being controlled by this Loki and is a Mephisto style red herring to Kang. After she tells Miss Minutes to get the files about the creation of the TVA and miss minutes flies off, Ramona turns to walk off and gives a very mishevious Loki smile right before the camera cuts away.

I think it's gonna be Tom Hiddleston playing an evil Variant, or possibly a future version of himself.

I'm probably wrong.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/7/2021, 12:48 PM
@Repian - okay maybe not the personification of time, but most likely the villain (or it's proxy). She's real suspicious
BB8ANG
BB8ANG - 7/7/2021, 1:05 PM
@Repian - With all of these Kang easter eggs, are we really still doubting his role in this? The Qeng "Avengers" Tower, Ravonna, the Doctor Doom like castle protected by one of Kang's adversaries...

It would be a HUGE slap in the face to lay all of these seeds just for the cartoon clock to be the villain.
LSHF
LSHF - 7/7/2021, 4:28 PM
@Spidey91 - Makes sense.
LSHF
LSHF - 7/7/2021, 4:30 PM
@ElricReturns - It sounds reasonable. That is some logical thinking.
LSHF
LSHF - 7/7/2021, 4:31 PM
@Jahleel007 - I so doubt Kang's role in this whole affair, I don't really think he's going to be in the Ant-Man film. Just kidding.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/7/2021, 8:34 PM
@Repian - Maybe Nathaniel Richards, in a simpler scientist form.

Would get along with the fake Time Keepers Wizard of Oz-style farce.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/8/2021, 9:27 AM
@LSHF - the files for the vehicle didn’t exist Renslayer made that up that’s why Minutes couldn’t find it
Tensorpants
Tensorpants - 7/8/2021, 6:19 PM
Nah, it's Victor von Doom living in that castle.
tRuckRogers46A
tRuckRogers46A - 7/7/2021, 3:54 AM
So I wonder if Richard e Grant's Loki is the ACTUAL main mcu timeline Loki? He did say he faked his Thanos death and lived in solitude for a long time.
somekglguy
somekglguy - 7/7/2021, 8:45 AM
@tRuckRogers46A - To my understanding i thought all of them were supposed to branch out from the sacred timeline but wouldn't explain Sylvie and other weird Loki
kitheka
kitheka - 7/7/2021, 10:41 AM
@mboni - there are multiple timelines. There is a multiverse after all.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/7/2021, 12:49 PM
@mboni - from what I understand there are thousands of universes and only those that affect the universe at at large are pruned.

Loki chilling on some forgotten rock till he meets his end doesn't do much to the rest of the universe, but stepping of it could have enormous consequences (which the TVA doesn't want)
somekglguy
somekglguy - 7/7/2021, 1:28 PM
@bkmeijer - Him existing would create another timeline because there would still a timeline where Loki was killed by Thanos
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/7/2021, 2:52 PM
@mboni - yeah true. I think most timelines we've seen are branches of the sacred timeline, but even within branches more timelines can branch of
ElricReturns
ElricReturns - 7/7/2021, 4:51 PM
@tRuckRogers46A - I just realized, if his variation was surviving his encounter with Thanos, then he lived a long time in hiding, wouldn't he have lived too long to prune his universe? He had to have passed his red line mark living so long.
adamcawa
adamcawa - 7/8/2021, 8:35 AM
@ElricReturns - by him going to live in solitude, it was effectively the same as dying, thus negating the Nexus event, or at least stabilizing it. Once he decides to leave the planet, the Nexus event would've spiked.
tRuckRogers46A
tRuckRogers46A - 7/7/2021, 3:55 AM
He also never mentioned his Nexus event.
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 7/7/2021, 4:02 AM
@tRuckRogers46A - His Nexus event was leaving the planet of solitude he was on. He had a line saying that the second he stepped foot off the planet, the TVA were waiting for him. So either surviving Thanos' attack or leaving the planet of solitude was his Nexus event. He wasn't meant to survive.
LSHF
LSHF - 7/7/2021, 4:07 AM
@tRuckRogers46A - To add to what JoeInTheBox stated, he left the planet of solitude because he missed Thor, and wanted to see him.
ElricReturns
ElricReturns - 7/7/2021, 4:55 PM
@JoeInTheBox - thus is what I just realized doesn't make sense about him, his path from the sacred timeline split when he tricked and survived Thanos. If that was the moment his universe split off, wouldn't the TVA have a certain amount of time to prune his universe before it becomes permanent or whatever happens after it crosses the red line? If he survived a long time in hiding, he had to have passed his red line.

So maybe Classic Loki is more important than we think, maybe he didn't tell his whole story, and perhaps his "sacrifice" was a Loki style deception.

Idk.
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 7/8/2021, 5:04 AM
@ElricReturns - Yeah, I was thinking of his story yesterday. I think his Nexus event triggered when he leaves his isolated planet. Him tricking and surviving Thanos wouldn't have any consequences on the events of Infinity War.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if his Loki didn't pull the rug over everyone's eyes in this one and has a greater purpose later on. We know he's powerful enough to do so.
Carlo79
Carlo79 - 7/7/2021, 6:21 AM
Another stupid article based on nothing. C'mon.
SerKurtWagner
SerKurtWagner - 7/7/2021, 7:52 AM
@Carlo79 - Uh.... This is literally giving backstory to a significant character revealed in today's episode. So I'm not sure how that's "nothing."
LSHF
LSHF - 7/7/2021, 6:23 PM
@Carlo79 - what SerKurtWagner stated, PLUS (what I've learned here over the years), many times the articles are reasons for fans to communicate with each.
The articles just give us a reason.

But I see what you mean. Sometimes I think the same thing, then remember what it is (in part) really about.
grendelthing
grendelthing - 7/7/2021, 7:47 AM
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SpiderFanMan
SpiderFanMan - 7/7/2021, 11:53 AM
@grendelthing - I legitimately laughed so loud when I saw this. Haha
SerKurtWagner
SerKurtWagner - 7/7/2021, 7:54 AM
Who knows if Kang will actually show up here. But let's not act like that possibility is anything similar to Mephisto. There was never any concrete hints towards Mephisto's existence in WandaVision, while here we've repeatedly been exposed to characters and settings tied to Kang, who has already been cast.
ElricReturns
ElricReturns - 7/8/2021, 7:07 AM
@SerKurtWagner - the only reason I don't think we are getting Kang is the final episode is an odd time to introduce a brand new character that doesn't directly tie to Loki or his journey. It's just not how Marvel does things. The hints at Kang are super deep cuts only die hards would get. They aren't actual hints that a general audience member would understand. They haven't fleshed him out at all. It would be so difficult to pull off.

I think we are getting someone we've already seen in the show. Its either Miss Minutes, A variant Loki, Classic Loki, an alternate or future Sylvie or Loki, or a Variant of Mobious or Mobious himself. It has to be someone already established.

If they do introduce Kang and make him the big bad ill give Marvel all the props.
SerKurtWagner
SerKurtWagner - 7/8/2021, 11:13 AM
@ElricReturns - He doesn't have to be the Big Bad. But if they finish this show without introducing or at least mentioning him, they'll have dropped the ball big time. And looking at F&WS, they introduced TWO new villains in the final episodes for later use - Sharon & Val.
ElricReturns
ElricReturns - 7/8/2021, 11:16 AM
@SerKurtWagner - we shall see
Tensorpants
Tensorpants - 7/8/2021, 6:21 PM
@SerKurtWagner - Never any concrete hints? Wanda's children? Agatha Harkness? Do you even know what a comic book is?
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 7/7/2021, 8:08 AM
This was what I thought they were talking about when they mentioned 'The Void' but it could totally be setting the stage for him down the line
gordonh7
gordonh7 - 7/7/2021, 10:24 AM
You can never guess what Marvel are going to do. Remember when we all thought Mephisto was going to be the villain in Wandavision. Then we were all trying to guess who the main villain behind it all was going to be and we had everyone suggested and it turned out to be Sharon Carter.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 7/7/2021, 2:34 PM
@gordonh7 - Yeah, I'm afraid the last episode revealing who is behind everything could be a huge disappointment, there is not much time left (ironically) for an important Marvel villain/character to be properly introduced and to explain why he/she created the TVA and everything else, so I guess we should forget about someone like Kang, he will be introduced in Quantumania and I guess he will be a Avengers/FF villain in the next movies, and the villain behind the TVA will be just another Loki variant or something like that.
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