New Details On Marvel Studios/Marvel Television Divide And Kevin Feige's Reaction To AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.

New Details On Marvel Studios/Marvel Television Divide And Kevin Feige's Reaction To AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.

Marvel Studios and Marvel Television really didn't get along and new details shed light on their clashes, the Creative Committee's role in those, and Kevin Feige's indifference to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.!

By JoshWilding - Oct 28, 2023 12:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel

It's no secret that there was a divide between Marvel Studios and Marvel Television and the newly released MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios better explains the rift. 

Marvel Entertainment (led by CEO Ike Perlmutter) is said to have pushed for Marvel Television's creation. From there, the company's "Creative Committee" - a group Kevin Feige hated so much that he'd later successfully convince Disney CEO Bob Iger to make Marvel Studios a separate entity - was allowed to call the shots.

Remember, this group wouldn't allow Iron Man 3 to feature a female villain because of concerns over toy sales; in fact, they even tried to gut Captain America: Civil War, pushing for the crucial hero vs. hero conflict to become a story about The Avengers assembling to battle generic super soldiers. 

It turns out Feige had plans for all the characters Marvel regained the rights to in the late 2000s/early 2010s, including Daredevil and Ghost Rider. However, the Creative Committee decided he was too busy with The Avengers and "ignoring the protests of Marvel Studios, it assigned all the wayward characters to Marvel Television."

The relationship worsened from there Marvel Studios "obdurately refused to loan the shows its characters or actors." That's why Daredevil's first season, for example, featured vague references to characters like Thor and The Hulk, never naming them or even showing photos of the heroes while alluding to the Battle of New York. 

In fact, Feige's reaction to the news Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was happening on ABC tells us all we need to know about his feelings towards Marvel Television. 

"They had said early on, 'Hey, we're thinking about doing this show about the agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.," the executive recalls. "And Joss [Whedon] said, 'I think I might do this.' I said, "That's cool. God bless you. But you should know that we're destroying S.H.I.E.L.D. in Winter Soldier. You guys do whatever you want. But know that's what we're going to do."

Captain America: The Winter Soldier essentially made the series irrelevant, and while many fans argue that Nick Fury's cameos confirm its status as canon to the MCU, the book confirms Marvel Studios only allowed him to be used because they had to. 

These days, Marvel Studios controls the franchise's big and small screen offerings. It's been something of a learning curve for them, of course, with the studio's streaming offerings on Disney+ proving a tad hit-or-miss, but at least Feige is now getting to choose which stories are told outside of theaters and how those inform the wider MCU. 

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Tasmaniac
Tasmaniac - 10/28/2023, 12:10 AM
Yeah, cos they’ve done such a good job of the TV series’ since they took over 🤮
Variant
Variant - 10/28/2023, 3:42 PM
@Tasmaniac - They have...MOST of the shows have had great viewership and reviews. Y'all complainers just love living that contrarian life and it's corny.
Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 10/28/2023, 5:47 PM
@Variant - What's corny is you sucking the tit and thinking Marvel Studios tv division has done no wrong.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 10/28/2023, 12:18 AM
I never got the AOS hate. It was a slow burn, but it was a weekly network television show, after all. Ironically, the show majorly improved once SHIELD fell.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 10/28/2023, 12:21 AM
Feige is a clown and although Perlmutter is the scapegoat for a lot of things, and he did some things wrong like bury FOX-owned properties like X-Men and FF in the comics, he was also correct about many things, too. People conveniently forget that.

Perlmutter was a businessman who lived in the real world whose only aim was to make money. He was not a loser Woke crusader who wanted to preach to people and ruin their IPs, like all of the people Feige hired have done after he got Permutter fired.
JDL
JDL - 10/28/2023, 12:35 AM
@HistoryofMatt - Fox automatically got to use anything new in the FF & X-Men comics FREE. Only an idiot gives that away. That said it admittedly was somewhat a disservice to the comic fans.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 10/28/2023, 1:01 AM
@HistoryofMatt - Perlmutter is a rich businessman, but one who doesn't give an owlhoot about respecting the property so long as he gets his buckets of cash. What are you so protective of him for while attacking Feige?
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 10/28/2023, 1:23 AM
@MosquitoFarmer - Given how the guy is an anti-woke guy, its clear why he's pro-Perlmutter, as Perlmutter was pretty much against diversity in the MCU films while Feige wanted to let more diverse characters appear.
AvalonX
AvalonX - 10/28/2023, 1:26 AM
@MosquitoFarmer - Perlmutter was the leash Feige needed. They DID make money and built one of the best cinema dynastys ever. Once the things he had a say in were done, things went downhill quick. Sometimes you need people who can see what you can't. Thats how businesses run.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 10/28/2023, 1:27 AM
@AvalonX - I dunno the MCU was at his peak when he left (Phase 3), the downhill only started when Marvel took a more quantity over quality approach, which both Feige and Iger have admitted is not working as now they can't deliver quality projects with so much.
JDL
JDL - 10/28/2023, 12:31 AM
I remember reading an article where an AoS cast member related their shock after seeing CA:TWS in a screening. They started shooting stuff right after that referenced the movie so the showrunners had to know well before Christmas. As for canon status AoS certainly was that until the movies were taken away from Ike in Aug 2015 since Ike was the Boss.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 10/28/2023, 12:37 AM
I wished Feige would let the bygones be bygones and make the best out from where Agents of SHIELD left off as well with the Runaways, Cloak and Dagger and some of the Netflix shows. Perlmutter's gone now so it's good.

The writers for the show were creative to keep using SHIELD in a more lowkey manner without the helicarrier and such post-TWS and left the organization in a good place in Season 7, all Feige has to do is build some bridges.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 10/28/2023, 12:54 AM
I never knew "obdurately" was a word.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 10/28/2023, 12:59 AM
Also...
'Hey, we're thinking about doing this show about the agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.,"
- "That's cool. God bless you. But you should know that we're destroying S.H.I.E.L.D. in Winter Soldier."

*HAHAHA!* Wiener roasted.

dracula
dracula - 10/28/2023, 1:16 AM
Agent Carter still works pretty well in canon

Agents of Shield doesnt

Its getting iffy with daredevil
Kurban
Kurban - 10/28/2023, 1:37 AM
It’s funny Feige clowned on AoS when it’s a better show that any of the shit he’s put on Disney+.
Variant
Variant - 10/28/2023, 3:54 PM
@Kurban - That's just dramatic and untrue. The majority of MCU shows are miles better than AoS. I mean, I liked the show okay, but the production value and the writing was like slightly-better-CW quality. None of it had the depth of the MCU shows.
jaysin420
jaysin420 - 10/28/2023, 5:48 PM
@Variant - People are still talking about AOS. The writing and most everything was light years ahead of almost every Disney+ show. Not counting WandaVision or Loki, the others were mostly either straight up garbage (She-Hulk & Secret Invasion) or totally unmemorable (Falcon & Winter Soldier & Hawkeye)....Moon Knight was cool.
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