OBI-WAN KENOBI's Finale Delivered The Battle Fans Have Been Waiting For And IT. WAS. EPIC! - SPOILERS

OBI-WAN KENOBI's Finale Delivered The Battle Fans Have Been Waiting For And IT. WAS. EPIC! - SPOILERS

The final episode of Obi-Wan Kenobi dropped on Disney+ yesterday morning, and we're now breaking down that epic battle and taking a closer look at what it meant for both Ben and Darth Vader. Check it out!

By JoshWilding - Jun 23, 2022 06:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Obi-Wan Kenobi
Source: SFFGazette.com

If you're among those who felt Ben's duel with Darth Vader in Star Wars: A New Hope was a little...tame, then you should definitely make watching the Obi-Wan Kenobi finale a priority.

That battle was, of course, a product of its time, and while it may not have featured the same level of intensity as Obi-Wan and Anakin Skywalker's clash in Revenge of the Sith, it told a story and teased the history between the two former friends. In yesterday's finale, they once again squared off, and we think it's safe to say this is the Star Wars franchise's greatest lightsaber battle. 

In an epic display of power from both Obi-Wan and Vader, they use the Force to throw gigantic boulders at each other, with the Sith Lord even believing he has defeated his former Master after burying him alive. Obi-Wan, however, arguably proves himself Vader's superior when he lifts that debris into the air and flings rock after rock at the clearly overwhelmed villain.

A few well-placed lightsaber strikes later, and the control panel on Vader's suit has been badly damaged, while a hole has been sliced across his helmet. With that, an iconic piece of imagery from various comic books and, more specifically, Star Wars Rebels, is translated to live-action as we see what lies beneath Vader's mask.

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Obi-Wan is horrified to learn what's become of his former Padawan after leaving him for dead on Mustafar all those years ago, and after Vader tells him Anakin is "gone" and that he is all that remains, a tearful Ben apologises to his foe for everything that happened. 

"I am not your failure, Obi-Wan," Vader responds. "You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. I did," he adds with a twisted smile on his face and vows to destroy his old Master. Clearly, Anakin is no more at this stage and the Dark Side and "Darth Vader" really were ultimately responsible for the demise of one of the greatest Jedi to ever live. Ben is horrified to realise his friend is truly dead and says "Goodbye, Darth," as he walks away from an irate Vader. 

We're sure there will be many interpretations of this scene, but it does feel as if Obi-Wan is somewhat vindicated for Anakin's descent into evil. Vader has wiped Anakin out, and while there were many contributing factors to what led to his fall, this scene really drives home the destructive, tragic power the Dark Side has on those who fall prey to it. 

However, pay close attention to his eyes and you might notice that some of Anakin may remain...
 

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FrankieDedo
FrankieDedo - 6/23/2022, 6:10 AM
Lol they literally had to adapt an animated scene because casuals won't see Rebels. Imagine Vader when like 6 years later he get in the same identical situation, saying almost the same exact lines to Ahsoka.

Why not creating a completely different scene? I mean, Obi-wan is a well done series, but oh my if it's completely pointless fan service. Not that fan service is bad, but really? It could not be anything else?
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/23/2022, 6:21 AM
@FrankieDedo - if it works, why change it? I don't really see it as fan-service, as it does still also services Obi-Wan and his exchanges with other characters in the world of Star Wars (like with Vader in IV)
Origame
Origame - 6/23/2022, 6:29 AM
@bkmeijer1 - not really. The battle on mustafar does all that.
dragon316
dragon316 - 6/23/2022, 6:47 AM
@FrankieDedo - those are people who won’t read comics , watch cartoons same situation with transformers movies you think new fans of transformers became fans of transformers all because of live action movies will go see animated movie and animated series he’ll no those people don’t buy comics, watch cartoons, buy toys for them self those people buy toys for kids and nieces and nephews they don’t play transformers video games it’s reason transformers make cross overs in games like this to attract new fans
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/23/2022, 6:52 AM
@Origame - I guess it does, but with Vader saying he is the one that killed Anakin and not Obi-Wan does lend credence to Obi-Wan saying that to Luke in IV for example. Couldn't infer that from Episode III in my opinion.
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/23/2022, 7:47 AM
@FrankieDedo - Because Star Wars is creatively bankrupt written by people who don’t understand or appreciate the lore.
They just write it to fit into whatever they fancy.
The1st
The1st - 6/23/2022, 10:00 AM
@FrankieDedo - I was giving this show a chance, and it had its moments, but yeah...no. Did Luke misremember seeing a lightsaber before in a new hope, or a sith? I thought he'd bump his head or something, but no. He just forgot after chasing womp rats for awhile...
The1st
The1st - 6/23/2022, 10:01 AM
@dragon316 - yes, I'm just waiting for Yoda personally. Grimlock is fun though.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 6/23/2022, 10:30 AM
@The1st - not sure he actually ever saw the saber. The closest he came was when Reva was battling Beru but Luke was in another room and the sightlines on that scene suggest that he was scurrying away and not looking in Reva’s direction.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 6/23/2022, 10:42 AM
@SpaceParanoids - you are on crack
The1st
The1st - 6/23/2022, 11:02 AM
@SauronthePower - Perhaps. I wouldn't mind seeing Reva again though, despite some of the backlash I think she would benefit from a timeskip to around the time of Mando.
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/23/2022, 1:54 PM
@supermanrex - That’s a very intelligent response 🙄
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/23/2022, 1:57 PM
@FrankieDedo - Hossein Amini agreed. Kennedy can't do creativity these days.
TheWarThor
TheWarThor - 6/23/2022, 6:42 PM
@FrankieDedo - Because the scene worked perfectly- that's why. It was one of my favourite Star Wars moments. Look how many are talking about it.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/23/2022, 6:11 AM
I wouldn't use the word epic, but it definitely delivered for me. Sure it had some issues (the whole show did), but I ended up enjoying it even more that I expected.

This show was always gonna be epic, bad, and whatever else you can call it. The story and characters of Star Wars (especially major ones like Vader, Kenobi and Leia) are so deeply rooted in pop culture that everybody feels like they have an authority over what they want from it, that anything but that will be dismissed and called pointless.

I'm not excusing this show for what it is or what we like it to be. The list of issues is long, but so is the list of good things. And this finale falls under the latter for me.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 6/23/2022, 7:53 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I think you're spot on with the part of thinking fans thinking they have authority over what they want from Star Wars. It's a big part of the toxicity that exists, and why many refuse to accept the prequels (and sequels for that matter). The lore of Star Wars has become so big that many won't accept anything other than what they envisioned in their head.

It's why Star Wars would be smart to move into uncharted territory and get away from anything and everything Skywalker Saga wise. Not that there aren't good stories to tell during that period (I'm really looking forward to Ahsoka, Andor and the continuation of The Mandalorian), but because it's what would be best for the franchise and the fandom.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/23/2022, 7:57 AM
@thewanderer - exactly. That's also why I don't wanna see him go into Revan, Bane or maybe even the origin of the Jedi. Everybody has their own notion of what those stories are or mean, so it's better to stay away from those too. Even if it's timeline-wise far removed from the Skywalker Saga.

On the other hand, if it does something completely unrelated to the stories we know there is gonna be negativity as well. The outcry is then probably gonna be something akin to ''this just slaps the Star Wars name on it to make money!''
thewanderer
thewanderer - 6/23/2022, 8:31 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I'd be interested in Revan from what I know of the character. It may still piss off some fans, but a much smaller set, and lets face it some are going to complain regardless.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/23/2022, 8:37 AM
@thewanderer - yeah, there's always gonna be complaints.

Anyway, I am interested in Revan as well. It's just with the upcoming KOTOR remake, that I think we don't need him in live-action as well.
The1st
The1st - 6/23/2022, 10:04 AM
@thewanderer - I think Starkiller and Revan's stories are perfect for clone wars animation, but live action would be sweet too. I just don't have any faith in anyone at lucasfilm not name Favreau or Filoni currently.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 6/23/2022, 6:16 AM
It was really good. To bad they kept cutting to Reva crap. This show could have been amazing if the main focus was just Obi-Wan and Vader.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 6/23/2022, 7:57 AM
@Moriakum - I'm not sure you could have drawn it out for that long and keep it compelling and it not become diluted. I'd agree if they had kept it a movie, but I don't know that you could have done just 5 hours of Anakin and Vader.

Outside of more flashbacks, I got what I wanted out of the Anakin/Vader dynamic in the show.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/23/2022, 8:39 AM
@thewanderer - feel the exact same way. Reva was serviceable to getting Kenobi and Vader together, and Kenobi and Leia, and in my opinion it worked
supermanrex
supermanrex - 6/23/2022, 10:44 AM
@Moriakum - it must hurt your little feelings that Reva has a fanbase that loves her and she will most likely be coming back. oops
Typhoon20
Typhoon20 - 6/23/2022, 11:17 AM
@Moriakum - Kind of like Dr Strange 2.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 6/23/2022, 1:12 PM
@supermanrex - Reva´s fanbase:
NakedAvenger
NakedAvenger - 6/23/2022, 6:17 AM
OBI-WAN KENOBI's Finale Delivered The Battle Fans Have Been Waiting For And IT. WAS. EPIC!

- no it wasn't. The scene with Vader's damaged mask and voice modulater was good, and James Earl Jones voice was menacing. Everything else was meh.
Origame
Origame - 6/23/2022, 6:32 AM
@NakedAvenger - and even then I preferred it when it happened in rebels.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/23/2022, 8:52 AM
@NakedAvenger - Because it wasnt JEJ, they use a voice modulator.
NakedAvenger
NakedAvenger - 6/23/2022, 9:17 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - oh wow. Was it all computer generated?
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/23/2022, 9:24 AM
@NakedAvenger - Yup, same with Luke in The Mandalorian.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 6/23/2022, 11:48 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 @NakedAvenger - No it is JEJ, deadline confirmed it that 91 yr old reprised his role. The computer tech they used was to make his voice sound similar to his pitch/tone in Ep.4.

https://deadline.com/2022/06/obi-wan-kenobi-james-earl-jones-voice-darth-vader-1235036511/

Age is getting to him as he sounds "weaker" compared to the past but i have nothing but gratitude for his career. You can tell it just sounds a bit different.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/23/2022, 12:59 PM
@mastakilla39 - It was him? I dont know the point of getting him if you are going to use a voice modulator anyway...
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 6/24/2022, 6:30 AM
@mastakilla39 - yes. You really hear it in Rogue One in the ‘get a boarding party…..’ sequence, and that was 6 years ago. You can hear him crack and some fatigue in his bass. This show absolutely made the right call with supplementing his actual voice w a bit of ‘boost.’
Truoptimusprime
Truoptimusprime - 6/23/2022, 6:32 AM
I believe this scene was meant to emphasize the part in Revenge of the Sith when Padme told Obi Wan that there is still good in Anakin. He didn't believe it, and in this moment he saw both the light and darkside in him.I feel like we needed more moments like this in this series.
AC1
AC1 - 6/23/2022, 6:37 AM
This series and Clone Wars is everything I wish the Prequels had been!

Also I kinda have a theory about how "tame" the lightsaber battles are in the OT compared to more modern Star Wars stuff.

- In A New Hope, I feel like a case could now be made that Obi-Wan was almost pretending that he was less capable due to his age as a way of stalling Vader to give Luke, Leia and co. a chance to escape, while Vader probably thought he was toying with Obi-Wan in his own arrogance, unable to see the Obi-Wan was the one toying with him. Obi-Wan knew either way that he wouldn't survive because he needed to ensure the others would escape, but then chose to let Vader strike him down when he saw Luke was looking to motivate the young Jedi.

- I think then in Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, the battles there are a combination of Luke not being as experienced as other Jedi would have been (at most he'd been training on and off for a couple of years after the first movie, whereas other Jedi at his age would've trained since childhood in the age of the Republic) and Vader holding back because he didn't want to kill Luke - he wanted to turn him. To Vader it was more like a sparring session which is why he never went all out against Luke, and in their final battle may have even been about to let him win so that he could be put out of his misery and so that Luke would survive (even if it was under the Emperor's thumb)
Kumkani
Kumkani - 6/23/2022, 6:45 AM
@AC1 - There doesn't have to be a theory for everything. The lightsaber battles in the OT were tame because George Lucas didn't know how to do fight choreography.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/23/2022, 6:55 AM
@AC1 - I think the tameness can also be explained to Vader's suit just limiting movement. Could see that already in his fight with Reva and Kenobi. He's just hammering more now. Him using the force to block was also pretty cool
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