STAR WARS: TALES OF THE JEDI Breaks Established Canon By Contradicting Events Of AHSOKA Novel

STAR WARS: TALES OF THE JEDI Breaks Established Canon By Contradicting Events Of AHSOKA Novel

All six episodes of Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi arrived on Disney+ earlier this week, but the finale actually breaks canon by contradicting the events of a 2016 novel revolving around Ahsoka Tano...

By JoshWilding - Oct 29, 2022 11:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: SFFGazette.com

Much to the disappointment of many Star Wars fans, Disney decided to wipe the entire Expanded Universe from canon when they took over of the franchise. It was understandable, though, as trying to make new movies and tell stories while being beholden to decades worth of books and tie-in material...well, it would have made things very complicated. 

Since then, Lucasfilm has released a new wave of tie-in books and comics, all of which are believed to be canon. We've seen some contradictions on screen, but by far the biggest came in the final episode of Tales of the Jedi on Disney+.

As The Direct explains (via SFFGazette.com), the story told by Dave Filoni completely contradicts the events of the 2016 Ahsoka book by E. L. Johnston. There are some similarities, such as the Jedi using the name "Ashla" as a cover, but everything from how she's exposed to which Sith Inquisitor tracks her down is completely different. 

Ahsoka no longer takes that villain's red kyber crystals to purify and turn into her two white lightsabers, while her reunion with Senator Bale Organa is also massively different. In the book, they never crossed paths at Padme's funeral, instead meeting right at the end of the book when she gains that "Fulcrum" moniker from Star Wars Rebels.

Filoni has previously said he worked with Johnston on the book, though that was actually before both The Clone Wars was revived and Ahsoka was anywhere near close to becoming a reality. The filmmaker wanting to tell this story in a different way isn't a shocker, but it does lead to questions about how important any of these tie-in stories are. 

After all, if they can become non-canon on a whim thanks to a TV show or movie, should we really be taking them with anything more than a pinch of salt? Lucasfilm has avoided telling stories within the same timeframes (Marvel Comics' Star Wars titles are currently set after the events of The Empire Strikes Back, for example), but there are bound to be more contradictions down the line.

Are you disappointed that the Ahsoka novel is no longer canon? Let us know your thoughts in the comments section.

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Methos5000
Methos5000 - 10/29/2022, 11:05 PM
If it's not on screen, it's not canon.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/30/2022, 5:41 AM
@Methos5000 - If it's not in Episodes 1-6 or the pre-Disney Clone Wars, it's not canon.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 10/30/2022, 10:34 AM
@Methos5000 - this is how I treat Star Wars for the most part.


Not so much that it isn’t canon, but that it’s fair game to be retconned.
dracula
dracula - 10/29/2022, 11:06 PM
Seems pretty obvious non visual mediums are just general canon

Like didnt the Seige Of Mandalor in Clone Wars also contradict books

As long as the genreral main events play out who cares
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/30/2022, 3:06 AM
@dracula - I've thought similarly.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/30/2022, 6:01 AM
@dracula - There was another episode (also an Ahsoka story), pre-Disney, that contradicted an Expanded Universe comic by adapting it, even though that comic was a direct tie-in to the Clone Wars series, I can't remember what that was called, though.
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 10/29/2022, 11:08 PM
Nobody cares
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/30/2022, 5:43 AM
@Comicmoviejunki -
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 10/29/2022, 11:09 PM
This just in. Comics are also not canon to films.
KaioKen
KaioKen - 10/29/2022, 11:34 PM
After all, if they can become non-canon on a whim thanks to a TV show or movie, should we really be taking them with anything more than a pinch of salt?

No. And that goes for every work of fiction.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/30/2022, 5:44 AM
@KaioKen - Are you saying that fiction is not canon to fact?! Jedi aren't real?!?! Whaaaaaaaaaaat?
TocharianMonk
TocharianMonk - 10/29/2022, 11:48 PM
Who cares any more? They (lucasfilm) don't, why should you? Obi wan broke every piece of Canon. Nothing matters as far as SW goes.
Origame
Origame - 10/30/2022, 11:40 AM
@TocharianMonk - I still do...

Toonstrack
Toonstrack - 10/30/2022, 5:27 PM
@TocharianMonk - obi wan broke nothing lol
Kurban
Kurban - 10/29/2022, 11:48 PM
I honestly feel like this show was a waste for that exact reason. We spent 20 minutes on Ahsoka as a baby, then got some really unnecessary backstory on how she survived clones shooting her. But the one thing I think everyone wanted to see was her purifying the lightsaber crystals. What a waste, honestly.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 10/30/2022, 1:18 AM
@Kurban - I don't think the tv/movie writers know about purifying and bleading a blade. It's legit a novel/comic thing
globaltravels
globaltravels - 10/30/2022, 6:08 AM
@Taonrey - Filoni knows. It was a strange choice to not include it
Logan17
Logan17 - 10/30/2022, 1:46 AM
To be perfectly frank I don't think movie and tv storytellers should have to confirm to comic books,books and video games.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 10/30/2022, 1:50 AM
Show would have been more interesting if they focused on lesser known Jedi.
PapaSpank54
PapaSpank54 - 10/30/2022, 2:25 AM
Broke: muh novel/comic isn't canon anymore!

Woke: if it ain't a movie it ain't canon
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/30/2022, 3:05 AM
@PapaSpank54 - What does woke have to do with this?
TheAstoundingMan
TheAstoundingMan - 10/30/2022, 4:10 AM
@dagenspear - He isn't using 'woke' the same way right-wing nut jobs do.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/30/2022, 9:04 AM
@TheAstoundingMan - I think the context is seeming, to me, to be implied to have similar structure. Why use that context? Unless I'm misunderstanding?
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 10/30/2022, 9:57 AM
@dagenspear - not knowing the origins of any of it, I assumed that the original use of “woke” meant reaching a new understanding beyond old assumptions. Someone who has had an awakening.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 10/30/2022, 2:28 AM
Frankly, canon hierarchy has always gone to movies and TV first. Even then, S7 of Clone Wars already made the Ahsoka book noncanon. This is old news.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/30/2022, 5:58 AM
@MrDandy - The canon hierarchy stuff was all before Disney, though.
Disney posted their manifesto regarding canon when they acquired Lucasfilm, stating that only the first 6 movies and the Clone Wars was canon and that from now on all comics, TV, novels, etc would be canon unless explicitly stated not to be.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 10/30/2022, 12:17 PM
@ObserverIO - no, that hierarchy is still here. Movies and TV will always be more important than everything else. Since the new canon Filoni projects have already de-canonized the Ahsoka novel, Kanan comics, Master and Apprentice, and Jedi Lost.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/30/2022, 3:47 PM
@MrDandy - Mistakenly. What they say and what they do are two different things. They say everything is canon but then contradictions happen. I guess Kathy Kennedy, or whoever's job it is to keep an eye on these things, isn't actually doing their job very well.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 10/30/2022, 4:01 PM
@ObserverIO - very true.
NGFB
NGFB - 10/30/2022, 2:38 AM
Canon = fiction = nobody cares
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/30/2022, 4:06 AM
Written media being treated as secondary canon again doesn't surprise me. The novel was already contradicted by The Siege of Mandalore as well anyway
TanukiTrooper
TanukiTrooper - 10/30/2022, 4:14 AM
I have never considered comics, books or video games as canon. The Force Unleashed was just too ridiculous of a story to ever be considered canon. That felt more like a supercharged universe, where everyone is cranked up to 11.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 10/30/2022, 4:27 AM
Canon nazis deserve the mental anguish they feel from inconsistencies and canon breaks. Their need to pretend this fictional universe they idolize is the result of one big master plan that needs to fit flush with itself rather than the work of literally hundreds of creative individuals tossing around ideas that will eventually contradict each other is hilarious. Star Wars isnt that important, and if it is to you, thats a result of your life choices and not Star Wars really being that important.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/30/2022, 6:04 AM
@TheVandalore - "Star Wars isn't that important,"

I totally do not understand that statement.
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