THE MANDALORIAN: Don't Expect Grogu's Origin Or Yoda-Connection To Be Explored In Much More Detail

THE MANDALORIAN: Don't Expect Grogu's Origin Or Yoda-Connection To Be Explored In Much More Detail

Three seasons of The Mandalorian in, and we still don't really know very much about the adorable Yoda-like alien known as Grogu, and according to co-creator Dave Filoni, that's probably not going to change.

By MarkCassidy - Apr 25, 2023 08:04 AM EST
Filed Under: The Mandalorian
Source: Via SFF Gazette

When Grogu was first introduced to the Star Wars universe in the closing moments of the first episode of The Mandalorian, he immediately captured the hearts of fans, and viewers looked forward to learning more about the origins of the adorable "Baby Yoda."

Now, three seasons later, we still don't actually know that much more about the character, aside from how he managed to escape the Jedi temple purge after Order 66 was issued.

During a red carpet interview, The Mandalorian co-creator/writer/director Dave Filoni was asked if he'll be exploring Grogu's backstory any further, and while he did admit that he has an idea of where the little guy came from and his connection to Yoda's species, he doesn't seem to have much interest in delving into it on the show.

"Mando is his family," he said when asked if we'll ever find out about Grogu's ancestry.

While some will no doubt be disappointed by Filoni's comments, this doesn't mean we'll never find out any more about Grogu in other media, and, at the end of the day, isn't the future of the character a lot more important than his past?

The Mandalorian is expected to return for at least one more season, and Filoni is set to direct a Star Wars movie that will tie up the story that's been playing out on the Disney+ shows (the ones taking place in the same timeline, at least).

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mountainman
mountainman - 4/25/2023, 8:22 AM
I just want to see Grogu time jump 50-100 years so he’s actually an interesting character and not just a goo-goo baby anymore.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/25/2023, 8:24 AM
@mountainman - hope that when we see him next, it's in the New Jedi Order movie. It's 40 years after The Mandalorian, so should be more developed by then. Maybe even already Jedi Master level (just like Yoda was at 100)
mountainman
mountainman - 4/25/2023, 8:34 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah a 90 year old Grogu could be a win for that movie. I’m not going to pretend to understand how that species ages if they are still infants at 50. But I hope at 90 they are at least teenager level.

I had this thought about The Mandelorian splitting Din and Grogu off from the rest of the group. All the Mandelorians continue their story of retaking Mandalore, but Din and Grogu get time jumps while going back to the solo adventurers.

How cool would it be to get an “old man Din” story where he’s been traveling to universe his whole life and is starting to slow down while Grogu has become more competent and is actually the protector now?
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/25/2023, 8:51 AM
@mountainman - I wouldn't mind it if Season 4 just starts with a bunch of solo adventures again, and maybe ends with Din returning to Mandalore to resolve a conflict between both clans.

As for Old Man Din, hell yes. That would be great to see. Think with Grogu (and Yoda) they age 10 times as slow as humans, so I'm guessing Grogu is comparable to a 9 year-old by then. Could work
mountainman
mountainman - 4/25/2023, 9:02 AM
@bkmeijer1 - We may get something like that someday, but I doubt season 4 would do anything along those lines.

I’m just getting really tired of Grogu as a baby. The running on the light fixture scene in the finale was really lame. I like that his powers are getting stronger, and the Invisible Woman like force bubble was awesome. Just for me the cuteness has worn off over time.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/25/2023, 9:41 AM
@mountainman - that is definitely fair. That's also why I hope The Mandalorian doesn't run infinitely, like Filoni or Favreau implied it could. The movie is a good way to wrap it all up
supermanrex
supermanrex - 4/25/2023, 9:51 AM
@mountainman - grogu is a homage to the old ILM puppeteer days. they deliberately went practical knowing people would complain about how much CGI. But people are still complaining about practical. the show runners have shitty aspects of their job....like trying to actually please star wars fan. nigh impossible.
mountainman
mountainman - 4/25/2023, 10:12 AM
@supermanrex - The grogu puppet looks fine when it isn’t in motion. I prefer practical to CGI many times. But when he flips around or runs along a light fixture, it looks really cheesy.

Honestly my biggest gripe with Grogu isn’t about his look, it’s that they cutesy baby stuff has overstayed it’s welcome.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 4/25/2023, 10:16 AM
@bkmeijer1 -
Yup. Mandalorians will be at the center of the action for a long time to come. He's both Mandalorian and Jedi. The big problem with a whole planet full of highly force sensitive Yoda's is the overpowered aspect of it. They will leave that be for a long long time.
rkshuttleworth
rkshuttleworth - 4/25/2023, 1:16 PM
@mountainman - Don't worry, no one's masculinity is threatened by Star Wars trying to appeal to a broad audience.
mountainman
mountainman - 4/25/2023, 1:31 PM
@rkshuttleworth - I’m certainly not threatened. I just want them to appeal to quality writing and storytelling. It shouldn’t be too much to ask.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 4/27/2023, 2:50 PM
@mountainman - they know that you are over the baby deal. but they also know there is a sizable fanbase that is eating it up and they can run on cute grogu for a loooooong time before he has to mature or age. they rode baby groot for a while too.
mountainman
mountainman - 4/27/2023, 3:10 PM
@supermanrex - You are correct. There is a ton of merchandising with Grogu so that has to override interesting story telling in Disney’s eyes.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 4/27/2023, 4:19 PM
@mountainman - its not just disney its a common industry tactic. stretch the money maker as far as you can before the story can no longer viably support whatever it is being stretched. i dont see filoni or favreau allowing grogu to go too long before they advance him. two seasons past and now he is basically involved in conversations albeit non verbally. he will progress in time.
mountainman
mountainman - 4/27/2023, 4:40 PM
@supermanrex - I understand the business reasons and Disney isn’t the only one doing it. As a consumer of entertainment, I just like watching something entertaining. And Grogu running around on a light fixture evading these seemingly elite guards ain’t it. Grogu isn’t the main reason for this, but the sagging viewership of the show proves that something isn’t going right with The Mandelorian.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 4/28/2023, 10:23 AM
@mountainman - i dont like all that viewership talk when it comes to stream able shows. the point of streaming shows is to watch when you want. at the most it just means its not a immediate first thing to do list cause they lost the hot streak when the delay between seasons was there. but people will trickle in and binge the whole thing. i bet the numbers will go up now that people can do it all in one sitting. sagging viewers online means ill watch it later not necessarily ill not watch it all like tv ratings indicate. even tv ratings are skewed now due to DVR.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/25/2023, 8:23 AM
No need. I think it's more interesting to have this myterious past around him. The only thing I might wanna know is the name of his species.
RedFury
RedFury - 4/25/2023, 8:25 AM
I think this is going to piss people off only because we live in an age where we "need" everything and we need it now.

That being said I'm actually very okay with not knowing his full origin. Sometimes the mystery of a character lends itself to the storytelling elements of their arc. Knowing too much about someone's story can sometimes be a detriment to their present self. I think Boba Fett is a good example of that. He was a lot cooler when I didn't really know too much about him. And now that he's been super fleshed out, I can't help but feel the mysticism is no longer surrounding him.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 4/28/2023, 10:39 AM
@RedFury - if you dont flesh a character out then they have no business having their own series. the show would get real old real fast trying to sustain one dimension mystery characters who just do badass things. those characters should get recurring guest roles or at the a one off special.
RedFury
RedFury - 4/28/2023, 10:49 AM
@supermanrex - Id definitely agree that characters absolutely need to be fleshed out if they have their own series, or are main stays of a series. But I think that fleshing out of a character can happen from the present and future stories, rather than digging up their mysterious past that plays a big part in what makes gives the character the draw or what have you.
AC1
AC1 - 4/25/2023, 8:27 AM
We don't need to know. The appealing thing about Yoda and his species is the mystery surrounding it and their rarity. We don't need to know more about that.

I'd be fine with learning more about what happened to Grogu between Order 66 and the start of The Mandalorian if it was interesting. But we don't need to know where Grogu came from, who his birth parents were, his homeworld, or anything like that.
Repian
Repian - 4/25/2023, 8:36 AM
Why among so many Jedi children in the temple? Why was he a priority? Maybe he is the last of an extinct race
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 4/25/2023, 8:41 AM
@Repian - my guess? Literally clone of Yoda, the Jedi’s master plan to end the clone war.
Obviously I’m joking but at the same time more Jedi are revealed to have survived in every new Star Wars project. I’m sure 80 other kids got saved
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/25/2023, 9:42 AM
@Repian - I had the idea that Grogu was relatively helpless, so that's why he got priority. The other kids atleast could swing a lightsaber
Origame
Origame - 4/25/2023, 8:49 AM
Ok but this is literally the same problem as rey and snoke. You clearly raised questions about his biological family when you make him the same species as Yoda and gave him crazy force powers. Hell, ahsoka is the whole reason we call him grogu because she already knew that was his name.

Either answer these things or don't raise the question. Why is this so hard to understand?
JFerguson
JFerguson - 4/25/2023, 9:38 AM
professional answer from filoni. Truth is I don't need Grogu's origin. Same as I don't need the origin of Yoda.
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 4/25/2023, 9:49 AM
Why though? I feel like Yoda and his species is the last great unturned stone in this franchise. They've made a point to be secretive about it, when in all actuality could be the most intriguing thing in all of SW.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 4/25/2023, 10:00 AM
Pfft, yeah right. So long as Kathleen is still holding the reins, ANYTHING is subject for pimping for the all mighty 💵. We will see Grogus inception if KK can siphon even the tiniest drop out of his dried up and rotting legacy. I mean, looked what she did to the original trilogy legacy characters. Her sequel trilogy made the entire previous 2 trilogies irrelevant, literally pointless sacrifices as the Dark side and Light side still wage wars across the stars, and the Force being in balance was momentary at best... then in The Last Jedi they straight up to us "You know, that stuff you like is dumb, let it die and spend money on our new endless flavor of Disney Star Wars!" They literally invited us to a party, then at the party took our loved ones by the neck and shot them in the head, dead, then told us not to worry because they are our family now and no we don't have a say in it. That's what Kathleen did to Star Wars. And you think she will respect Daves wishes about Grogu? Lol I'm sure she's already concocted various ideas for how to rape Grogus legacy into non existence.
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