Why video game movies can't work: A retraction

Why video game movies can't work: A retraction

I said video games can’t make good films. I was wrong (sort of).

Editorial Opinion
By hgmE - Nov 20, 2009 01:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Video Games

I was right when I said that video games don’t make good source material for films. I was wrong when I said ALL video games are poor source material. In order to further my point, I’m going to show you four things, two video game movies that WORKED and two that should have and didn’t.. First, the ones that worked:

Silent Hill: If you played the games, you know that this was a very, very faithful adaptation. The movie changed how the town functions a little but mostly stayed true to what the games were, and the ideas Silent Hill is based on. Admittedly, this movie gave the writer and the director a little more freedom because the games as a series have never been about the characters and the choices they make, but the town and what it does to the hapless people that find them selves at its mercy. A little research will show you that most of the crappy parts (the husband subplot for one), were forced into the movie by Hollywood execs (the bastards).

















Postal: First things first, Ewe Boll makes crap. 99% of all the movies he ever makes will be crap. But postal is a shining example of video game movies done RIGHT. This is mostly due to Running with Scissors, the development team behind all the postal games. Ewe Boll just wanted to cash in on another video game fan base (a small one at that) but ended up finding a team of people who stand by their product. RWS (Running with Scissors) wrote a screenplay for the film, were consultants all the way through, and the creator of Postal; Vince Desi even has a cameo in the movie. I highly recommend this movie to anyone with a pitch black sense of humor.

Fun Fact #1: If you get the special two-disc version of the movie, the second disc is a copy of postal 2, a game easily worth the $20 or less you’re going to spend on the film.

Fun Fact #2: For you Boll haters out there, there’s a scene where he gets shot in the groin, and proclaims “I Hate Videogames”, I’m still on the fence as to whether or not he actually LIKES video games, but I know that being hated has given the man a crap-ton of free press.




And the failures:


Max Payne: All you need to do is play the first Max Payne to know what I’m talking about here. Most people seem to agree that it was an atrocious film, but the biggest travesty here is the fact that it COULD have been so, so great. The games had a good story filled with fantastic characters. (I can still hear Jack Lupino’s crazy rants about demons and devils before screaming I AM THE WOLF!, and Max’s sometimes ridiculous but always fantastic inner monologue) But to really see where the movie screwed the pooch lets cover the basic plot elements shall we?

Max’s wife and kid are murdered by drug addicts (Movie: Check)
Now with nothing to lose he goes deep undercover (Movie: I’d rather have him do cold case files because it’s more…deep?)
His only contact gets killed and he is suspected (because now the police just think he's some street thug), so he kills his way up the mafia ladder to get to the bottom of it. All while trying to stay one step ahead of the police. (Movie: No, no, that’s far too exciting, let’s have him do a bunch of boring leg work instead)

That’s just the first act of the game, on top of that they completely removed the Slo-mo John woo style gunfights. (and I don’t count the one scene where he uses the shotgun, the pump shotgun was the most useless weapon in the game so it stands to reason that Max would use one for 90% of the film) *sigh*



Resident Evil: First I want to ask a question; when does an adaptation stop being an adaptation? This came to me after reading that a lot of you out there liked the Resident Evil films. To hammer my point home, think about a Metal Gear Solid film. Is it still a MGS movie if Solid Snake is replaced? How many members of Fox-hound can I cut from the plot before I just should stop calling it MGS: the movie? I think most gamers can agree that you can still tell the tale of Metal Gear Solid without psycho mantis (Why would you though?). But what if I changed the location to a desert, replaced the metal gear with a nuke, and changed the character of Solid Snake to Mongoose Jack (Jack has a totally different back story by the way)? At that point aren’t I just ripping off MGS basic premise, not making a movie about it? That’s how I feel about resident evil. Now, RE is not a bad movie, it’s a bad adaptation, I’ll be the fist to admit I don’t want to see a movie where the main characters hunt for gems in statues, to find a note sheet, to play on a piano, etc, etc, to open a locked door. But were Chris and Jill so bad that they had to be cut from the movie entirely? Or how about the fact that RE was a survival horror game? You know the kind, low resources, deadly enemies, etc. I did not want a gun-shooting kill fest for a Resident Evil movie. Great game, good movie, terrible, horrible adaptation.

The next question that crosses my mind (and maybe yours) is how could they screw that up? Well my thinking is Paul W.S. Anderson (of RE fame), just wanted to make his own movie and sell it to an existing fan base, the jerk (this is just my opinion but it makes a lot of sense to me.).
As for Max Payne, that movie needed 2 films to do the game’s story justice, and I doubt any movie studio is going to finance a two-part video game movie where each part has to have the budget of a blockbuster action flick. That is of course assuming that anyone involved in production of that movie ever played or gave a crap about the game.

If you actually read all that, hats off to ya. And a final note to anyone considering making a video game movie: For jeebus sakes man! Play the dang game, there’s a reason this game is popular, those reasons might translate to film pretty well.

P.S. I’m skeptically eager for Prince of Persia, Those games’ plot are just complex enough to fit a 90 minute film, but I don’t think all the acrobatics and time slowing are going to make the cut.
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flames809
flames809 - 11/20/2009, 2:13 PM
i like max payne,silent hill was ok and the first resiient evil was ok to
hgmE
hgmE - 11/20/2009, 2:31 PM
@flames - Did you play the game? Just curious is all.
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 11/20/2009, 2:44 PM
This list of crapula video game movies, really makes silent hill shine.
thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 11/20/2009, 2:57 PM
The silent hill movie prolly is the gold standard for video game movies...I mean you don't even have to be be a fan of the games to enjoy it, it stands on its own as a horror movie.
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 11/20/2009, 3:16 PM
I know. How the Hell did Max Payne come of that bad? It had such potential, the games were perfect for film adaption, but it was a major let down.
hgmE
hgmE - 11/20/2009, 3:30 PM
@supermario - I can't stress the quality of postal enough. Ewe Boll makes crap, postal somehow is awesome and totally worth your money.

@thehawk - I've literally been saying that to myself since the movie came out.
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 11/20/2009, 3:41 PM
@hgmE

True, I haven't seen postal, so it's unfair to call the entire list of films crap. I'll see it before the end of the night (or day, depending on where you're from), and let you know tomorrow what I thought of it.
hgmE
hgmE - 11/20/2009, 4:01 PM
@supermario - Remember put your black humor hat ON before you watch it. Some pretty horrible things happen in this film for the sake of laughs.
Ugh
Ugh - 11/20/2009, 9:34 PM
Gotta throw the first Mortal Kombat in the good pile. For the time, they really got that one right. And I thought that Hitman was a pretty solid movie, too.
AxlKomix
AxlKomix - 11/20/2009, 11:34 PM
I think it would be unanimous to say that Super Mario Brothers is the worst video game movie ever.
AVEN
AVEN - 11/21/2009, 1:34 AM
i played SL and RE... (ps1, ps2 games)

The silent Movie adaptation was good for me, about resident evil movie... well it is so silly
Imran
Imran - 11/21/2009, 6:18 AM
Cool article. It's true we have yet to see a great videogame to film adaptation. BioShock seems promising. If Prince of Persia can be as successful as Pirates then that would be good.

Anybody seen Assassin's Creed: Lineage?? That's quite good, a film does seem very likely??

I just heard that they're making a Professor Layton movie lolll
1chris2
1chris2 - 11/21/2009, 6:38 AM
i agree resident evil should just be remade more like the first game. they dont need to find jews and things like that but maybe secret slide cards and keys and secret passages,and it needs to be creepy,scary,and not a action film,it also need to have the experiments in the film because thats what umbrella was about. lets see some hunters,a tyrant from the video game that does not talk,the plant,snake,and tranchulas damb is that to much to ask for well they can leave out the snake and spiders if they want but the other things need to be in there.
1chris2
1chris2 - 11/21/2009, 6:38 AM
i also hear they are planning on remaking resident evil after part 4 any news anyone?
1chris2
1chris2 - 11/21/2009, 6:40 AM
we need a fallout 3 movie that game is the shiznizzle.
Imran
Imran - 11/21/2009, 7:12 AM
@1chris2.. Fallout 3 is the best game ever!!! Would love it if they made a film of that..
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 11/21/2009, 8:57 AM
@Imran &Chris1. There is a Fallout movie. It's the movie teh game was based on, it is called 'A Boy and His Dog.' It takes place in an alternate timeline's post-apocalyptic future in the year 2024 I believe. Everythign in Fallout was based off of that movie and the Mad max series.

A Boy and HiS Dog is a good, if odd movie, I heighly recommend it. It was made in 1974 or 76 i believe

Here are two trailers



Imran
Imran - 11/21/2009, 5:21 PM
@THEHAWK.. Sweet man!! Yeah I've heard that the game was based on a 1970s film but didn't know which one.

Nice one!! I'm definitely giving this a rent! =D.. That made my day. Woooh.

Just searched for it on LOVEFILM.com (where I rent my films), as well as the film coming up, there's a Wii game called A Boy and His Blob.. lolll
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 11/21/2009, 7:24 PM
@Imran. I'll warn you, it is random as hell! But it is a good movie
1chris2
1chris2 - 11/22/2009, 5:55 AM
i actually hear they are making a film based on fallout 3 as well. so now there will be a movie based on a game based on a movie. lol.
1chris2
1chris2 - 11/22/2009, 5:59 AM
i actually hear they are making a film based on fallout 3 as well. so now there will be a movie based on a game based on a movie. lol.
Spilox
Spilox - 11/22/2009, 11:48 PM
Max payne sucked! Not only did it not stick to the source material, they also cast the most shit actor ever.
Silent hill was pretty cool, i even like resident evil. And you realy should give mortal combat 1 some cred.
theFACE
theFACE - 11/23/2009, 5:07 AM
ugh @ Assassins Creed: Lineage was cool, everything about it was perfect, i dont understand how so many Video game movies have gone so wrong.

For anyone who hasn't seen Assassins Creed: Lineage, here you go.





supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 11/23/2009, 8:06 PM
Postal was alright. Very dark humor. I felt that a lot of the scenes were just plain f*cked up. That opening sequence alone made me want to stop watching it. I must admit though, I got a good number of laughs out of that movie.
hgmE
hgmE - 11/24/2009, 9:58 AM
@supermario - Glad you enjoyed it? I own it, but I can have a very dark sense of humor at times.
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 11/24/2009, 8:05 PM
I enjoyed it, but not without repercussions. nice recommendation though
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/27/2009, 4:55 AM
the first RE GAME starts out with the STARS team investigating attacks in the mountains just outside raccoon city. they get chased into the mansion where the majority of the game takes place. in fact, you discover the hive in the end of the first game. (they don't call it the hive, but the STARS team WOULDN'T know the name of it.) the first movie is the explanation of HOW the zombies/zombie dogs got out. so the first MOVIE takes place just before the beginning of the first GAME.

in the RE2 GAME, you play as leon, a rookie cop who has just been transferred to the raccoon city police dept. in the GAME, leon shows up, and the police station/city is already over run with zombies. in the 2nd MOVIE, the police station is shown to still be fully operational, and the outbreak is JUST starting in the city. so again, the 2nd MOVIE takes place just before the events of the 2nd game, and then they kind of overlap halfway through considering both the game and movie end with the destruction of raccoon city.

the 3rd movie takes place way in the future, and even the new games aren't that far ahead, so the 3rd doesn't follow anything. but again, its in the future.

the movies may not follow the actual games, but they ARE faithful representations as far as the time line, and universe goes. my point is, the movies follow the timeline, just not the same characters in the same times. i think its funny that so many people claim to be hardcore Resident Evil fans, yet they can't figure that out.
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