When will the Wolverine learn how to FIGHT?!

When will the Wolverine learn how to FIGHT?!

Yeah, I said it – who wants some? In the comic books, Logan is the ultimate assassin, and yet the films have portrayed him as nothing more than redneck brawler with claws. When are the films going to do right by the man known as the Wolverine?

Editorial Opinion
By loganoneil - Mar 01, 2011 08:03 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men

Hear me out before you decide to lynch me – NO ONE was more pumped to hear that Wolverine was part of the line-up when the first X-Men movie was being talked about. “FINALLY,” I though, “the Man is going to get his due and proper on the silver screen!” Admittedly, I was a little surprised at the casting of Hugh Jackman for the part – a old-school theater song-and-dance man would not have been my first choice, but aside from the height factor (which has been discussed to DEATH on numerous other threads), the man had potential. So I waited…



And while the four films so far HAVE NOT meet my expectations as an X-fan, Mr. Jackman’s overall performance has been commendable, save for one area – FIGHTING! In the original source material, Wolverine is an uber-killer-assassin trained in many tasty forms of inflicting pain. In the movies however, his ‘fighting style’ (if you can call it that) resembles more of a drunken redneck! Gone is the economy of motion. Done away with are the stylized moves and lighting-fast blows of a trained killer, and in their place the repetitive ‘hack-slash-thrust’ of a bar-room brawler are substituted. The surgical instrument has been replaced with a baseball bat!

Nowhere is this more PAINFULLY evident that in the film ‘X-Men 2: X-Men United’ in the fight scene between Wolverine and Lady Deathstrike. Both characters are products of Col. William Striker’s Weapon X program, with similar abilities and skill sets (SUPPOSEDLY), yet Deathstrike EASILY wipes the floor with Wolverine - it’s only by a stroke of luck that Logan is able to survive! Had this been more ACCURATE fight scene, we would have been privy to an epic battle of gods, pitting two HIGHLY SKILLED warriors against one another (and would have given director Bryan Singer a more plausible reason to destroy the dam, as those two would have LITERALLY brought the place down around them in the heat of battle!).



Now there have been two main arguments presented by many in this community as to why the movie Logan doesn’t necessarily need martial arts skills – his adamantium claws and his healing factor. First off, ‘YES’, his claws are super-effective weapons (duh!). ‘Yes’, they can cut through just about anything like hot steel through butter. But I pose this question to you nay-sayers – “Which is MORE dangerous, an ‘average joe’ with a blade, or the guy who’s TRAINED and KNOWS how to use one?” Even when Logan had bone claws, don’t you think he’d want to figure out the BEST (most effective) way to used them? And don’t you think that would extend to the rest of his body as a fighting instrument? Even if he didn’t travel to the Orient until AFTER the Weapon X program (as the movies elude to… which in my opinion is TOTAL BS!), there are still WESTERN forms of ‘martial arts’ that Logan would have been exposed to in all his travels – boxing, wrestling, fencing, savate (to name a few). After all the decades (centuries?) of his existence, don’t you think he’d pick up a thing or two (or a few hundred) he would incorporate into his fighting repertoire? It’s only logical! ‘Hack-slash-thrust’ only gets you so far for so long….

As for his healing factor, it has been argued that because of it he can ‘suck it up and keep on fighting’. True, his healing factor gives him an INCREDIBLE constitution, but… (and this is MY point) HE STILL FEELS IT! Even a rabid animal will avoid pain if it can! Why would Logan go blindly charging on if he can avoid a cut through a dodge or weave? He’s got the reaction time. Yes, there are times when he does ‘red-line’ and goes totally berserker in the comics, killing just about anything and everything in his path with a total disregard for himself, but those instances are rare and he has to be in a certain mindset. Speaking of which, that is another thing we haven’t seen in the films, even though it’s been hinted at countless times in the films – but that’s another article…

Now that Fox and Friends is gearing up for ‘The Wolverine’, I’ve seeing articles on how HUGE Mr. Jackman is getting, how much he can bench, and how much dead animal protein he’s consuming on a daily basis. Now the picture IS impressive – Jackman is packing on the pounds and more PHYSICALLY resembling the Kanuckle-head every day. But what about the FIGHTING aspects? ‘The Wolverine’ is supposedly talking place in Japan (and HOPEFULLY taking its cues from Frank Miller’s EPIC mini-series), yet there is no talk of Jackman hitting the dojo/kwoon. When Keanu Reeves and company were gearing up for the first ‘Martix’, they worked out eight hours a day for six months straight! Reeves said he was so sore from the training that he literally had to soak in a tub of ice water nightly to recover!



Are we in for the “same old, same old” with this new film in terms of Logan’s fighting abilities, or will we FINALLY get the Wolverine of the comic books? Only time will tell. I for one am getting tired of this misrepresentation of a beloved character. Hey Fox - get it right or give it up!
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AlexdoxA
AlexdoxA - 3/1/2011, 9:11 AM
Agreed 100% His claws and healing factor should only be a "plus" to his instinct and fighting skills
Dumegg
Dumegg - 3/1/2011, 12:35 PM
he should definitely kick more ass. he trained in japan
with samurai.
loganoneil
loganoneil - 3/1/2011, 12:45 PM
earzmundo - I think it unfair to lay the blame at Jackman's feet. Hugh has done an admirable job, given the crap he's been forced to deal with. I really think he undestands and truly gets the character, but he doesn't come up with the ideas, nor does he write the scripts, green-lights the projects, or choreograph the action. If you want someone to blame, blame Fox! They're the ones who want the PG-13 mass-market appeal for maxium exposure and maxium profit! Key elemets of Logan's personality/backstory were left out IMO because (let's face it) they're too violent for a PG-13 film! What am I talking about? His berzerker rage and the 'feral Wolverine' story-arc. How could they film Logan carelessly gutting a bunch of people in a blind fury, or running around the Canadian wilderness like a wild animal? Yet these elements are ESSENTIAL in truly setting up Logan's psyche. And that's THE part of his makeup - the CONSTANT battle between man and beast! Without them, he goes from being a tortured soul to brooding grump. We all get that he's a dangerous man, but without these aspects, we don't know HOW dangerous he truly can be!

Before Frank Miller made Wolverine one of his own, even he thought the kanuckle-head was nothing special. It was only after he had the epiphany of turning him into a ronin (a masterless samurai) wrestling to control his darker nature did the character's potential spark his interest. That 'twist' forever changed him from a second-stringer into the bad-@ssed mo-fo we all know and love!
Dumegg
Dumegg - 3/1/2011, 1:32 PM
Frank Miller is the MAN.
Spock
Spock - 3/1/2011, 3:22 PM
His portrail was good, but he should of been more of an ass kicker in the movies especially!
tehdude
tehdude - 3/1/2011, 5:58 PM
Hey guys, don't forget Chris Claremont had a hand in turning Wolverine into the character we all know and love today. Not just Miller.
LP4
LP4 - 3/1/2011, 6:12 PM
Agreed- Hugh Jackman has done outstanding acting in all the films and deserves NO blame. But admittedly the writers and Singer [frick]ed him bad and made his Wolverine seem like more of a "bar fighter" rather than an actual martial-artist/wars expert with centuries and centuries of knowledge like in the comics.
molee
molee - 3/1/2011, 9:45 PM
he really needs to learn martial arts to do wolverine justice!
felixxx
felixxx - 3/1/2011, 10:53 PM
loganoneil said it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zLN9wIKguLE
Phenom313
Phenom313 - 3/2/2011, 5:17 AM
I think there's still a knife to a fist fight element missing from Wolverine's portrayal. We got a touch of it in the X2 mansion raid scene. If Wolverine can be more "tight quartered" with the claws and not birdlike (ie the shot of him lunging toward Sabretooth on Origins) it would play out better. Also in X2, Wolverine killed multiple human guards and Deathstrike was stabbing the life outta Logan (PG13). I blame it completely on poor direction production and choreography.
loganoneil
loganoneil - 3/2/2011, 6:56 AM
Phenom313 - Agreed. An 'in-tight' fighting system like Wing Chung would be ideal in this instance (you gotta' love a system where you can beat a guy senseless in the confines of a PHONEBOOTH!). Pair that with Kali/Escrima (Filipino stick fighting) and you'd have a KILLER (pun inteded) fighting sequence! Jackman wouldn't even have to do any high kicking, as most of Wing Chung's kicks don't go above the knee!
Trollkotze
Trollkotze - 3/2/2011, 7:09 AM
100% Agreed

they should ask Marrese Crump for "choreographic" support..before its TOO late
loganoneil
loganoneil - 3/2/2011, 7:32 AM
Troll - An excellent martial artist. My nomination would be either Donnie Yen or Sammo Hung ('Ip Man').
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 3/2/2011, 10:05 AM
in all fairness, unless the story has something to do with his samurai training, then thats pretty much how they show him fight in the comics too. He just runs head first into any enemy swinging his claws.

think about it, when is the last time you saw Wolverine in the comics exercise some discipline and actually use martial arts? its been far too long...
loganoneil
loganoneil - 3/2/2011, 5:47 PM
IMO Jackman was NEVER the problem. I TOTALLY agree it's Fox and Friends deciding the fate of our beloved Kanuckle-head and turning the uber-assassin into a glorified redneck bar-room brawler!
MONTEZ
MONTEZ - 3/4/2011, 12:28 PM
I have been saying this since the first x-film. He needed help to defeat sabretooth in x1, needed help to defeat deathstrike. Hugh has never gotten the chance to play the real wolverine.
flyingbyhisseat
flyingbyhisseat - 3/6/2011, 11:22 AM
@loganoneil

You are a 100% right! When I see Wolverine fight I'm always thinking Damn he sure is getting the hell beat out of him all the time! He can't duck a punch to save his life!
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