X-MEN: Marvel Studios' Reboot Reportedly WON'T Include Wolverine In Initial Team Lineup

X-MEN: Marvel Studios' Reboot Reportedly WON'T Include Wolverine In Initial Team Lineup X-MEN: Marvel Studios' Reboot Reportedly WON'T Include Wolverine In Initial Team Lineup

Following the news that Marvel Studios has begun meeting with writers to discuss X-Men, rumour has it the initial team lineup won't feature Wolverine, a shock considering his role in the previous movies...

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By JoshWilding - Oct 01, 2023 08:10 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men

Marvel Studios has finally started meeting with writers to discuss its upcoming X-Men reboot, though a decision isn't expected to be made until early next year. 

Kevin Feige and company aren't thought to be in any rush to reintroduce these characters, no great surprise considering 20th Century Fox all but killed the franchise with flops like Dark Phoenix and The New Mutants. Plus, there's one mutant now expected to be at the forefront of the Multiverse Saga. 

Deadpool 3 will reportedly leave Hugh Jackman's Wolverine stranded on Earth-616, making the character a key part of Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars. However, the new Wolverine - who may also appear in that threequel - reportedly won't be part of the initial X-Men lineup. 

The original X-Men movies were often criticised for making everyone other than Wolverine feel like a supporting character. It appears Marvel Studios wants to establish other mutants before throwing Logan into the mix, a bold move given his popularity. 

It's worth pointing out that this lines up with the comic books where Wolverine didn't join the team until 1975 (they were introduced in 1963). We also wouldn't be surprised if the hero gets his own Disney+ TV series or movie that tells his story before he crosses paths with Professor X. 

Does this mean the reboot will kick off with the Original 5? (Cyclops, Jean Grey, Angel Beast, and Iceman) We can only hope as that's something fans have waited a very long time to see on screen. 

The new X-Men movie isn't expected to be released until after Avengers: Secret Wars, with that movie launching a new MCU where mutants exist. However, we're still not sure what that means for a character like Ms. Marvel who has already been confirmed to be one of them. 

Stay tuned for updates on X-Men (they've got to call it The Uncanny X-Men, right?) as we have them. 

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DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/1/2023, 8:16 AM
Good to know.

As neat as Vaughn's was, I need the MCU's first line-up to be the actual first Class of the original five.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/1/2023, 8:32 AM
@DrReedRichards - like f4, I doubt we'll ever get the actual first Class of the original five in todays Current year
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/1/2023, 8:50 AM
@harryba11zack - You mean they might cast a person with a different skin tone or eye color or hair or someone who is not made of of paper with four color inks on it?

Because other than that I choose to believe it is possible.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/1/2023, 8:52 AM
@ObserverIO -
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/1/2023, 8:58 AM
@ObserverIO - I don't think that's what he's saying at all. I won't speak for him, but I can tell you that I'm a giant fan of X-Men and I've always found the original 5 to be dull.

Claremont's new X-Men lineup are easily the most recognizable X-Men characters, so it would be weird to not include some of them, or most of them.

It doesn't have to be a race or gender thing. The O5 are just no where near the best incarnation of the team. If you make a movie of just them then you run the risk of the general audience wondering where Storm and Wolverine are, for example.
Variant
Variant - 10/1/2023, 9:12 AM
@DrReedRichards - I just really don't want the Fox-Men part of the MCU's actual X-Men team. We need a CLEAN SLATE.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/1/2023, 9:13 AM
@CorndogBurglar - True but he did mention that they wouldn't do the classic F4 lineup either.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/1/2023, 9:16 AM
@Variant -

Fully agreed. And as others have already pointed out, we need an actual leading Scott.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/1/2023, 9:20 AM
@CorndogBurglar -

"[...] I've always found the original 5 to be dull."



Maybe it's the hipster in me, but I'm honestly sick of everyone's obsession with Logan. The only two members of Clairemont's signature line-up I'm an actual fan of are Storm and Nightcrawler.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/1/2023, 9:33 AM
@CorndogBurglar - 100% agreed. I like each of the orinal five members, but the team only consisting of them is so boring.

There’s a reason the X-Men comic wasn’t doing very well UNTIL they did the Giant Sized team.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/1/2023, 10:10 AM
@DrReedRichards - It's weird because I do like most of the original 5 individually. Cyclops is my favorite comic character of all time. I love Beast. Jean is kind of a necessity in any X-Men run. But I can honestly take or leave Iceman and Angel. They've just never really been favorites of mine.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/1/2023, 10:13 AM
@DrReedRichards - Also, I agree with the Wolverine obsession. He's an important character to the X-Men, but I feel like he works best like in the 80's and 90's, where he's just a cool team member and not the focus of so much. Any of his personal stuff should be handled outside of actual X-Men movies. And if need be, some X-Men can make cameos in his solo films, or even guest star to help him out with things. Kind of like Black Widow in Captain America 2.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/1/2023, 10:22 AM
@mountainman - Yeah. When it comes to X-Men there are just certain members that everyone expects to see.

Cyclops, Storm, Wolverine, and Jean.

You can mix and match everyone else from there, honestly. But I think it would be wise to stick to some newer characters that are well known, but never really got to shine. Like Gambit, Rogue, and Colossus. Yeah, I know Colossus is a fan favorite in the Deadpool movies, but he's a joke character there. Colossus should be taken more seriously. He's an overly nice guy that would sacrifice himself for anyone. If Cyclops is the soul of the X-Men, Colossus is the heart. I always found it interesting that his power is the total opposite of his personality. With his powers being built around strength and durability, you would almost expect him to be a very violent character, but he's the opposite. Deadpool almost got him right. He just shouldn't be giving lessons on how important breakfast is and giving people protein bars and crap like that lol.

Anyway, I got off track. A mix between the Original 5 and Jim Lee/Claremont's blue and gold teams would be ideal.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/1/2023, 10:56 AM
@CorndogBurglar -

I'm with you on Warren being perhaps the least interesting member of the original roster, at least until his focus on Apocalypse, but I've always liked Bobby. Maybe it's the ice powers, or maybe it's because I have a thing for secretly OP underdogs with untapped potential due to whatever mental block.

But Hank has to be my favourite among them. During Hickman's run, I thought he was an even better replacement for Xavier in the Illuminati.
Vigor
Vigor - 10/1/2023, 11:29 AM
@Variant - agreed
Hey you had some good thoughts on another thread but the entire convo disappeared on my end. As if it was deleted
TheSuperMex
TheSuperMex - 10/1/2023, 11:31 AM
@DrReedRichards - nah, they are most boring team. Uncanny X-men team should be the team. Marvel should make a prequel show staring the original five when they were younger.
90caliber
90caliber - 10/1/2023, 11:36 AM
@ObserverIO - No, he means they may not all be white. Boo hoo.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/1/2023, 2:09 PM
@CorndogBurglar - Another interesting thing about Colossus is that his personality is counter to what many people perceive about Russians.

Despite the evil of the Soviet Union and what Putin represents, many Russians are more like Colossus than what the public perception shows.
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 10/1/2023, 2:30 PM
@DrReedRichards - I love Wolverine as the gruff side character that's cool but no one actually likes very much. He's always off doing his own douchebag thing because he's too cool for everything and is pissed that Jean likes Scott more than him. Let him be THAT in the MCU. Just show up once in a while. Not the focus.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/1/2023, 2:35 PM
@TheSuperMex -

Not calling them the mainstay roster by any means. Just show where the Academy actually started from, especially if thy focus on them as still evolving from a pre-Apocalypse Angel, pre-snow Iceman, pre-furry Beast, the whole deal.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/1/2023, 2:36 PM
@SummersEssex -

That's an approach I can totally get behind. Keep him as a member that comes and goes, not the protagonist.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/1/2023, 8:17 AM
Then it should be the original five.
UrbanTheEmcee
UrbanTheEmcee - 10/1/2023, 8:18 AM
I'm not against this. Especially if they can build Scott up big time. Fill that Steve Rogers void in the MCU.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 10/1/2023, 8:39 AM
@UrbanTheEmcee - This
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 10/1/2023, 9:34 AM
@UrbanTheEmcee -


I've been saying the same thing!


Wolverine can be his tony stark🥲
sully
sully - 10/1/2023, 3:46 PM
@UrbanTheEmcee - I hope Marvel doesn't sleep on the opportunity to give Scott amazing visuals with his energy beams. Combine Caps agility with Iron Man-type energy burst shots and you'll have something special. I definitely want Cyclops to be a formidable hero like Steve was.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 10/1/2023, 8:20 AM
Makes sense, no complaints. Many other characters deserve to be fleshed out as much as they spent the franchise so largely devoted to him thus far on film. And if we are getting a couple more glorious performances from Jackman, no one will need the new one just yet.
clintthahamster
clintthahamster - 10/1/2023, 8:23 AM
I'll be very surprised if they recast Logan. They'll bring back Jackman for DP3 and Secret Wars, and then X-23 will be Wolverine in the MCU from there. Dafne Keen, ideally. I really don't think they'll spend a lot of time going back over the ground that the Fox-Men covered so recently.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 10/1/2023, 8:39 AM
@ClintThaHamster - The long-rumored plan is to reboot the whole multi/universe after Secret Wars. Starting relatively fresh is the idea. And doing Wolverine right is something they are certainly well aware that people want, as beloved as Jackman is. Certainly won't be X-23.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/1/2023, 8:41 AM
@ClintThaHamster - Wolverine is one of Marvel's top 4 characters. I don't think there's any way in hell they don't include Logan in the MCU. And not Hugh Jackman. A new actor.

And Wolverine is in everything. He's an X-Man. He's an Avenger. He's got a million solo stories Fox never touched on. He's got the entire Alpha Flight connection. Hulk vs Wolverine.

With as much as Fox used Wolverine, they only scratched the surface of what he can be used in that would nit be re-treading anything at all.
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