X-MEN: We May Be Waiting A Long Time To See The MCU Reboot - Here's The Supposed Reason Why

X-MEN: We May Be Waiting A Long Time To See The MCU Reboot - Here's The Supposed Reason Why

There was no mention of the X-Men during this year's San Diego Comic-Con, but a new rumour suggests we'll be waiting a lot longer than many fans probably hoped before seeing the mutant team in the MCU...

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By JoshWilding - Jul 26, 2022 09:07 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men
Source: The Direct

Marvel Studios didn't disappoint at this year's Comic-Con, revealing some huge titles from its Phase 5 and 6 slates. Now, Fantastic Four, Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, and Avengers: Secret Wars all have release dates, but what about the X-Men reboot? We know it's coming, and the hope is that it will be revealed at D23, likely breaking the internet in the process.

However, a new rumour shared by The Direct may shed some light on why there appears to be a delay on bringing these uncanny heroes into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. 

It's claimed that despite Ms. Marvel being revealed as a mutant, we won't actually get to bigger name mutants for some time. While certain characters could appear, the belief is that there are contractual issues within the original 20th Century Fox deals that mean Marvel Studios would have to use the same actors from those previous movies before they expire three years from now.

We're not entirely sure how that works, and can't imagine everyone from those X-Men movies was under contract until 2025!

Of course, Marvel Studios appear to have gotten around the problem by using Sir Patrick Stewart's Professor X in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and Ryan Reynolds' Merc with the Mouth in Deadpool 3. So, does this mean no X-Men in the next two Phases?

Apparently, any new actors playing these characters won't be showing up until Phase 7 after The Multiverse Saga concludes, but we're taking that with a pinch of salt for now. Then again, it would make sense for the events of Secret Wars to reshape the MCU and bring mutants to the fore. 

Again, we're pretty confident that an X-Men movie will be announced at D23, and with so many 2025 and 2026 slots still empty, there's no reason why this team can't show up in time for the war against Kang the Conqueror. This latest update is definitely interesting, though, and could explain the apparent delay (which we'd put down to Marvel Studios wanting to leave some breathing room between the disastrous Dark Phoenix and their eventual reboot). 

What are your hopes for the Uncanny X-Men in the MCU?

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TheyDont
TheyDont - 7/26/2022, 9:54 AM
Ooh, rumor and speculation.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/26/2022, 9:55 AM
@TheyDont - Josh's specialty lol.
StSteven
StSteven - 7/26/2022, 11:09 AM
@TheyDont - Reminds me of a set of twins I dated once. Could never get commitment from either one. Ba-da-ching!
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/26/2022, 9:55 AM
Not surprising at all. I think we'll continue to see mutants pop up, particularly in She-Hulk, but we won't see a proper Mutant or X-Men movie until Phase 6.
StSteven
StSteven - 7/26/2022, 11:13 AM
@thewanderer - I think that a line in the recent trailer is kind of alluding to that when Jennifer's boss says something to the effect of "We've ben having enhanced people showing up all over the place now" and then we see the guy jump out of the window, land on a car, and walk away and then the judge who looks like a troll or something. How are those NOT mutants? They're not gods, super soldier serum recipients, gamma irradiated, or have a fancy suit giving them powers. So...?
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/26/2022, 11:15 AM
@StSteven - Exactly. I think there's a very high likelihood that we see a mutant in She-Hulk.
The1st
The1st - 7/26/2022, 12:01 PM
@thewanderer - It makes sense. The Netflix Marvel characters are just now entering the MCU, so I could see the X-Men being stuck in limbo.
StSteven
StSteven - 7/26/2022, 12:08 PM
@thewanderer - Probably more than one just going by the newest trailer. If that's the case then I think that we're going to see a "slow trickle" approach to mutants showing up in the MCU versus a BAM! now we have mutants approach, which makes more sense. They can sat that there have always been mutants but in small numbers, which would explain why we haven't known about them. In fact in a fun sort of retcon, they can say that some famous people throughout history have been mutants (i.e. Houdini, Tesla, Einstein, etc.) but something (the Snap maybe) is causing an exponential rise in mutation. There you go. Xavier and Magneto are mutants that have been around for a while but in hiding. same with Essex. Apocalypse is in hibernation in a sarcophagus somewhere. Etc., etc. And the law firm in She-Hulk is going to handle the rise in mutants along with other enhanced people. Easy way to introduce mutants. They just have to come up with the explanation for the rise in mutations, and maybe Bruce is the one to figure it out, especially as he's currently the smartest guy in the MCU (although Shuri would probably disagree with me). Anyhow, if true, She-Hulk could prove to be more important to the MCU than we originally thought.
StSteven
StSteven - 7/26/2022, 12:21 PM
@thewanderer - Oh, and regarding an X-Men movie in Phase 6, I would bet on it. Phase 4 is almost done and Phase 5 is pretty booked up, and we have 8 open slots in Phase 6. And I can't see them doing a proper Secret Wars movie without the X-Men, now that Marvel has the rights to them again. In another comment someone mentioned that they would release an X-Men movie between A:KD and A:SW and originally I thought that that would be too much in a short period of time (and it still might be) but it would make sense in the sense that A:KD could be the biggest event movie since A:IW/A:EG WITHOUT the X-Men, but how do you top that? By introducing the X-Men, which could also be the impetus for the Beyonder to kick off the Secret Wars.

Anyhow, just some thoughts (can you tell that my work meeting schedule is pretty light today? ;))
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/26/2022, 12:54 PM
@StSteven - agree on a "slow trickle" throuhought Phase 4 and Phase 5, before we get a proper X-Men movie in Phase 6, leading into Secret Wars and then Phase 7 being full on Mutants.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/26/2022, 12:55 PM
@StSteven - ha my work schedule is crazy today, but here I am lol.

And I agree with what you said. and I think Phase 7 will kick off the "Mutant Saga" or whatever they want to call it, culminating with the MCU's version of Avengers vs X-Men.
StSteven
StSteven - 7/26/2022, 1:03 PM
@thewanderer - Yeah, that's perfect timing actually. They do the "slow trickle" of mutants throughout Phases 4, 5, and 6 with a full-on X-Men movie before A:SW, but then one of the outcomes of A:SW is the rapid emergence of mutants, which is deemed a threat by the Avengers (confusion between "good mutants" and "bad mutants"), which culminates in AvX. Wouldn't be surprised if that's more or less how Kevin has it mapped out in his "war room" (where reportedly he has everything planned out for the rest of the decade).
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/26/2022, 1:13 PM
@StSteven - I also think you can do Civil War II, based on the Avengers divided on how to handle mutants.
cerrone6
cerrone6 - 7/26/2022, 1:37 PM
@StSteven - I'm hoping for mutants but I also heard the wrecking crew will appear in She Hulk.
The wrecking crew also has powers bestowed by the gods.
StSteven
StSteven - 7/26/2022, 2:22 PM
@thewanderer - Yeah, that's a good idea as well. This time around considering that Marvel has (almost) all the toys in the toy box to play with it could be a more comic accurate CW. Not that there was anything wrong with the first one and I think that the smaller scale of it actually helped to tell the core story of Cap & Bucky vs. Tony, which could have been lost in a movie where you had 40 different heroes fighting each other.

Either way, I think that you'd want to do either CWII or AvX but not both as they would be perceived as being too similar. And to me, just the title of "Avengers vs. X-Men" is more tantalizing than "Avengers: Civil War II".
StSteven
StSteven - 7/26/2022, 2:25 PM
@cerrone6 - Yeah, I heard the same as well, which would make sense, especially if Titania is more of a one-shot villain, which is what I've also heard. And to be honest, now that we've established "mutation" at least in the MCU through "Ms. Marvel", it would probably be easier to explain the Wrecking Crew's powers through mutation than god-bestown. AND it has the aded benefit of introducing the concept of "evil" mutants as well.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/26/2022, 2:32 PM
@StSteven - I think you could do both. Civil War II, which is a fight over how to handle mutants. They unite at the end. And then a year or two later you get Avengers vs X-Men.
StSteven
StSteven - 7/26/2022, 2:38 PM
@thewanderer - Okay, I see your point. So essentially in CWII instead of the Sokovia Accords that divide the Avengers team it's something like a Mutant Registration Act due to the proliferation of mutants and their perceived threat. That could work. And then that builds to an actual AvX movie. That could work. Especially if they do it like they are doing with A:KD and A:SW where the movies are so close to each other that they basically serve as a "Part 1" and "Part 2". Jeeze, if you think about it, they would need something to compare/top A:KD/A:SW and this could do it. Especially if they include cosmic entities like the Shi'ar and such.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/26/2022, 2:41 PM
@StSteven - yea, basically something along those lines.
StSteven
StSteven - 7/26/2022, 3:05 PM
@thewanderer - Yeah, they might need to tweak some stuff here and there given whatever state the MCU is in at the time, but, hell, I'd definitely watch that. Obviously they're going to build to SOMETHING with the introduction of mutants in the MCU, and given Kevin's love for the X-Men, I expect that it's going to be something BIG. So if not AvX it could be something like Age of Apocalypse or something along those lines (although Fox already kinda did (poorly) that "dystopian future for mutants" thing so they may not want to go down that route again). Either way, I agree that Phases 7-9 will most likely be some form of "The Mutant Saga" and will culminate in something big. Now we wait... :)
TheSuperMex
TheSuperMex - 7/26/2022, 9:56 AM
Nerdman3000
Nerdman3000 - 7/26/2022, 9:56 AM
That seems like bullshit. Disney literally owns 20th/21st Century Fox and any contracts it owned. If they wanted to cancel, buy them out, or hell even straight up ignore them, they easily could.

KWilly
KWilly - 7/26/2022, 10:19 AM
@Nerdman3000 - Exactly. Who's gonna sue them if they own the company that made the contract?
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 7/26/2022, 10:33 AM
@Nerdman3000 - they still might be contractually obligated to the actors that play these characters. Doesn’t matter if Disney bought the company that owned the contracts, there’s still a deal between them(the actors) and the entity(now Disney) that holds the contract. If the deal expires in 2025, then Disney will probably just wait it out so that they don’t have to pay a dime to anybody.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 7/26/2022, 10:41 AM
@Nerdman3000 -
A contract is a legally binding document.

"and any contracts it owned."

That means contracts that Fox signed with all the actors. Sure sure sure The Mouse could buy them out but what's the rush. They have plenty of characters to play with until then.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 7/26/2022, 9:58 AM
Rumors are not news. My friend sent me three different “news reports” labeled “RUMOR”. If it’s not a direct quote from someone official at marvel studios or Feige then I don’t believe it.
D23 is where they’ll announce X-men stuff.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/26/2022, 11:40 AM
@slickrickdesigns - then youre an idiot cuz the same guy leaked the entire plot to all of phase 4 and was spot on. Rumors turn out to be true too, especially MCU rumors of late.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 7/26/2022, 11:49 AM
@McMurdo - ok smart guy. You’re super smart for believing rumors and I’m an idiot for waiting for real confirmation. I bet you love Josh Wilding articles as well. Keep up the good job of being super smart.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/26/2022, 11:55 AM
@slickrickdesigns - I hate Wilding articles. That doesn't mean I refuse to consider the validity of rumors as they permeate the news cycle out of blind loyalty for a studio I like to fap to.
ScottSummers
ScottSummers - 7/26/2022, 11:58 AM
@slickrickdesigns - Ignore him. McMurdo is a buffoon. Don't waste your time on him.
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