THE AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON & SHIELD Connection

THE AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON & SHIELD Connection

Everyone is talking and complaining about how/why Tony Stark is going to be creator of Ultron in Avengers sequel. But I have some theories that may be different.

Editorial Opinion
By RedSkull667 - Aug 28, 2013 09:08 AM EST

I have been reading different editorials and various blogs and I wonder how come everyone is so sure about Tony Stark being creator of Ultron. There are official articles that state that Captain America: The First Avenger will directly lead into Age of Ultron, so if Stark was the person to create Ultron then there was supposed to be some hint in random that he is planning to create Ultron but no, all he had was a semi AI Suit that was so dumb that it cannot evolve to Ultron in 100 years even if it wanted to.

I believe that first Avengers movie itself dropped hints about Ultron. Remember when Captain America and Stark find out that SHIELD is working on weapons of mass destruction that itself feels like SHIELD is working on Ultron project with or without Pym's involvement( If he haven't showed up on screen that doesnt mean that he is not present in MCU)

There is an article floating aboutt Avengers animatics and one of them hint to an evil JARVIS. So how does JARVIS becomes flawed? Did someone rigged it, or planted a virus?

The answer is yes and we all know who did that to bypass Stark's security codes.


You might bash me for bringing this theory again but with Coulson coming back on Agents of SHIELD this is the biggest possibility that while Coulson who is actually an LMD, while trying to rig JARVIS to access Stark's security accidentally or intentionally planted a virus.

Also according to a news few hours back it said that "Ant man is going to be a redemptive storyline" so if Hank Pym has no debuted in MCU then what is the redemption for? I guess he had a role in manipulating Coulson or some dark past with SHIELD that leads to Ultron's attack he just doesn't know that it happened because of him.

Other than I wont go into depth talking if Coulson becomes a villain (may be Ultron himself) by the time Agents of SHIELD ends on note of him realizing that he was LMD all this time and feels betrayed. But I believe that something like that is likely going to happen.

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LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 8/28/2013, 9:38 AM
But Whedon said Couslon isn't in the film...

Ah [frick] it, we have no idea who or what makes or is Ultron.
TheManFromMars
TheManFromMars - 8/28/2013, 9:44 AM
The "evil Jarvis" on the Avengers animatic was Loki pretending to be Jarvis.
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 8/28/2013, 10:34 AM
TheManFromMars

Are you serious or is that just a theory?
TheManFromMars
TheManFromMars - 8/28/2013, 10:43 AM
@MrCBM56

I think it was, pretty obviously, a part of Loki's mind games.
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 8/28/2013, 10:47 AM
@Levi Hawkeye actually creates Ultron because of his lack of screentime in the first film.
maninfinesuit
maninfinesuit - 8/28/2013, 10:48 AM
'Captain America: The First Avenger will directly lead into Age of Ultron.'

GinjaNinja
GinjaNinja - 8/28/2013, 11:06 AM
I have a feeling Hank won't hit the big screen but will be somehow involved in ULTRON. Maybe not actually making it, but I don't see how you can completely take him out of the story. Maybe he doesn't really ruin him but still feels like he's responsible. you never know, also Wheadon might be lying. Like the girl did for the dark knight rises. IDK as long as its good i'm ok.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 8/28/2013, 11:43 AM
"There is an article floating aboutt Avengers animatics and one of them hint to an evil JARVIS. So how does JARVIS becomes flawed? Did someone rigged it, or planted a virus?"

did you even watch that animatic? i thought it was very clear that loki was messing with stark's mind and making him think jarvis was saying those evil things. nobody messed with jarvis, it was an illusion by loki.

and the entire movie (im3) was a hint to him creating ultron. he'll have an "iron man" out in the field but he won't actually be there. he created 40 some odd suits in between avengers and im3 so im sure they can come up with something for age of ultron. you're making it harder than it is. the hard part is how do scarlet witch and quicksilver fit in?
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 8/28/2013, 11:43 AM
@themanfrommars got it. how come most people missed this?
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 8/28/2013, 11:51 AM
There should be a HANK PYM connection!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 8/28/2013, 11:54 AM
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kinghulk
kinghulk - 8/28/2013, 12:25 PM
manfrommars- intreasting idea but i didnt think loki could control machines, plus if he was under loki's control why would he launch his suit to him when he got thrown off? plus whedon has made it clear he was thinking about ultron in the sequel before the first one was finished.

i love that picture above, i saw one with tony wearing the black and gold armour hes wearing in the comics i hope that armour appears in the sequel.
TheArchivist
TheArchivist - 8/28/2013, 12:27 PM
It could be that S.H.I.E.L.D.s Phase 2 is exploited by Ultron or they may end up corrupting JARVIS, but I doubt we will see Coulson in AoU.
TheManFromMars
TheManFromMars - 8/28/2013, 12:34 PM
@KingHulk

He wasn't under Loki's control!

Loki was pretending to be him! Making Tony hear his voice like it was Jarvis!

It's pretty obvious watching all the animatics of that article that Loki's mind control worked differently than how it was in the released movie. No mind control scepter shit.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 8/28/2013, 1:14 PM
ow right sorry i misunderstood.that does make more sense. i wish the bit in the animatics where loki stops the bullets happend we didnt realy see much magic from him.
CaptainHulk3
CaptainHulk3 - 8/28/2013, 4:41 PM
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Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 8/29/2013, 1:38 AM
*Sigh*, more fanboy whining about Pym and Ultron, *sigh*. Gonna be honest, while I do think it's possible that Whedon saying Pym didn't create Ultron might be a misdirect to keep spoilers away, at this point I sincerely hope he was telling the truth, just because it will tick off all these whiny "follow the source material" fanboys.

As for Coulson, this is the 2nd or 3rd time I've read about someone thinking the Coulson on the TV show will be one of these LMDs. No, sorry, not buying it. I still think that Stark's claim that he was one when Coulson called him was just a big joke & that they don't even exist in the MCU. And I don't see Whedon and Marvel taking a chance at possibly turning off potential fans of the TV show by making the main character turn out to not be real (and general tv audiences would be infuriated by that.)
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 8/29/2013, 1:41 AM
I do think it's definitely possible that Shield creates Ultron, I just don't see them doing it through Jarvis or Stark's tech.
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 8/29/2013, 9:48 AM
umm LMD's have to exist or why did stark reference it??
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