Ultron: The Greatest CBM Villain

Ultron: The Greatest CBM Villain

A lot of people have gone on the record of liking Age of Ultron, but being disappointed about Ultron himself. With 2 small changes in direction Ultron would've been arguably the greatest villain of all time.

Editorial Opinion
By Deonox - Aug 18, 2015 09:08 PM EST
First off, I want to thank Joss Whedon. He did a great job as writer/director of Age of Ultron. No matter what problems people have with the film, what he did was incredible and AoU was still a good fun movie.


Now let's get right to the point:
1 - Ultron should've been based on Tony AND Banner.

2 - Whedon's Ultron was too motivated by his hate for Tony


I think we can all agree while Ultron was unexpectedly funny, he was much too jokey and that took away from the tension in the film. By adding Banner's personality, we could've kept Ultron's charisma (which I thought was great) but keeping him serious enough to keep things tense. Imagine if you removed 50% of the quips that came out of Ultron and replaced them with dialogue of how each avenger's ideology was wrong, and how it will only lead them to tearing each other apart (Civil War). It would've been great: one minute we're laughing at his jokes and then all of a sudden you realize he's right. Having Ultron dominating the Avengers physically and psychologically is one thing, but imagine sitting in the theatre as he predicts the inevitable catastrophes of Phase 3(Civil War, Ragnarok, & Infinity War) thinking “Ultron is completely right”.



The second point is Ultron's hate for Tony was fun character work but it didn't add much to the film. Let's reimagine it with Ultron's true objective of protecting the world, and when he gains conscience he realized that the Avengers and government was the greatest threat to mankind (This fixes the whole why does Ultron go insane in 2 minutes problem). The best villains are the ones that believe they in fact are the hero (ex: Kingpin). Ultron believing the Avengers are the real evil ones, and that he has to be the hero to protect the humanity from them would've been an amazing story. He even doesn't trust Tony with the scepter so he runs off with it, to prevent Tony from doing anything worse. It would be a commentary on how Tony's always willing to go to extremes to do what he thinks is right, and supports the theme of being a monster while reflecting Banner's fears, and explains why Ultron flat out just loses it sometimes. This would cause Tony to see how sometimes he's no different then Ultron, leading to Civil War, and giving Banner another reason to runaway in the QuinJet.

With these changes, we wouldn't need to mess with the story beats, but we'd have a more interesting Ultron who's trying to save the world. At this point, some audience members might even be cheering for him. Ultron then kills Strucker because he's trying to be a hero and recruits the twins to help him defeat the Avengers. Now the twins joining Ultron makes sense, and doesn't make them feel like outright bad guys. What's their first move? To get vibranium and to kill Ulysess Klaw (Ultron still thinks he's the hero). Fast forward to the Korea, the Twins leave team Ultron because his idea of saving the world involves robot world domination. Because Ultron is also part Banner now, it explains why he just captures Widow instead of killing her. With Vision taken away from him and his experiences with humans being negative, Ultron decides that maybe it's not just the Avengers but that all of mankind is bad. He realizes that it's too late for mankind to change, and that the only way to save it is to just start over via meteor. The audience would really feel for him, and now we have character development.



Wrapping this up we now have a new element in the film of what does it mean to be a hero, which will carry through until the end. This works well with Tony and Bruce who create Vision in order to redeem themselves after the blunder they created which doesn't bode well with Cap. Quicksilver's death has a little more weight to it now because he shows what he's willing to do to be a hero. As Sokovia begins to rise into the sky Ultron's monologue could change into how sorry he is but he has to do this. Finally Ultron gets his closing heroic moment where one of his drones tells Vision where Wanda is, and that he needs to save her. This would even exemplifies the final conversation with Vision. We're even more sympathetic of Ultron now because he actually did have good intentions, he wanted to be the hero of the story, and his last moments are with Vision who is everything he wanted to be.

We now have Ultron as a tragic character as oppose to just another evil robot. He'd make you question if he was right, and would have you rooting for him at at every opportunity, even though you know better. He would've connected even more to the audience, added emotional weight to the film, foreshadowed Tony's role in Civil War, hit us right in the feels, and gave us a phenomenal Villain that will inspire Tumblr Fanfictions and #UltronLives twitter campaign.
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DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 8/18/2015, 10:18 PM
Cool article man, you make some good points, Ultron rocked, I just wish Quicksilver was still alive....

@DrDoom

When I read the title, I really had a feeling that this was going to be your article!!

DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 8/18/2015, 10:28 PM
@DrDoom

Nice, I'll be waiting....

Deonox
Deonox - 8/18/2015, 11:35 PM
DrKinsolving Thanks for that, appreciate the good push!

@DrDoom Ooo I'd love to hear your thoughts
Ghostpointzero
Ghostpointzero - 8/18/2015, 11:41 PM
Someone needs to do a write up on how they're villains suck in general.
FishyZombie
FishyZombie - 8/19/2015, 12:03 AM
Lets be honest, how good could Ultron possibly have been? The whole evil artificial intelligence who sees humanity as a virus that needs to be wiped out has been done hundreds of times and there is really not much you can add to it. So no, Ultron was never going to be one of cinema's great villains.
VictorMancha
VictorMancha - 8/19/2015, 2:05 AM
So if we narrow it down, you want Ultron be as relatable as Heath Ledger's Joker to the audience?
You want what Joker did for Ultron (Marvel).

You can't have that with Marvel sadly, lets face it their best movie is The Winter Soldier, and that's because it was more serious than every other movie they made where they were Joking all the time like in Guardians and Ant-Man.

Marvel has the idea that they ballance humor and intesity good, but they are completely off.
That's the problem if you start joking at the very beginning like in Ant-Man, how can you possibly expect the audience to take a "intens" scene seriously?
For example that part where Hank tells Hope about how Janet died, that was a good scene and they completely ruined it by making a stupid joke.

Don't get me wrong I like Marvel Movies, but if they joked less and don't end scenes with a joke ALL the time they could be so much better.
Like that wood-chopping scene, why? why on earth did Tony have to say don't take from my pile.
It wasn't a bad joke, but seriously if that is in the middle of the movie and you already had 50 of those jokes it's becoming too much.
or
when doctor Cho said is Thor coming
or
good talk
no it wasn't

I mean if you used one or two it would be funny but now it's just too much.

That's why I liked the Winter Soldier and probally Doctor Strange, they made some jokes (or will) and yet be relatable and fun.
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 8/19/2015, 4:58 AM
Ultron - The Greatest CBM villain?

PesciGotPepsi
PesciGotPepsi - 8/19/2015, 7:25 AM
I love you for this. I agree he is an amazing villain, people need to understand him.

But greatest CBM villain? I think Loki and Joker are better
kinghulk
kinghulk - 8/19/2015, 7:31 AM
ultron is definitely underrated on this site
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 8/19/2015, 8:38 AM
I think Ultron was a good villain. I do think they could've lessened the snarky attitude, but I also think he will return in some capacity. I'm hoping for Infinity War.
Deonox
Deonox - 8/19/2015, 8:40 AM
@VictorMancha You hit the nail, I deff pushed my ideal Ultron in a Joker Direction, but only just cause i believed it would've worked so well. I don't think it's Marvel per say, but i do think that it is mostly a Whedon thing. And it hurts the film so much.

I have no problem with a light hearted tone and humor, and the banter works well. In Winter Soldier you had Widow pulling the quips with super serious Steve during the attack on Baltroc. It worked because this was just another day and there was no real danger. Falcon played that role during the attack on the Helicarrier. But the second Winter Soldier showed up, these 2 shut up real quick. Even Guardians and Ant-Man had those moments. It's all about Balance!!
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 8/19/2015, 12:39 PM
CMB villain. Comic movie book villain.
Deonox
Deonox - 8/19/2015, 12:47 PM
@blackandyellow How did I not catch that!!
dylanmm5
dylanmm5 - 8/19/2015, 1:14 PM
@Deonox- I like that approach of Ultron. First seeing the Avengers as a threat and trying to get rid of them playing the hero. And at a point realizing all mankind is bad leading to his plan of extinction. That with a sub plot of him trying to become human as envy would have been perfect! Nice job!
Deonox
Deonox - 8/19/2015, 3:56 PM
@dylanmm5 That's your encouragement bro! I'm really looking forward to what kind of Thanos we're getting
pjspider
pjspider - 8/20/2015, 1:09 PM
I think an argument could be made to say Ultron was a combination of Stark and Banner. Though the movie made it clear that he was a mainly a Stark creation, Ultron's anger and rage could've very well come from Banner...
MisterHolmes
MisterHolmes - 8/20/2015, 8:49 PM


............what?
MisterHolmes
MisterHolmes - 8/20/2015, 8:52 PM
lets be honest, theres not 1 MCU villain that i would put in my top 5 best CBM villains, not even Loki
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