Marvel Fans Are Convinced They've Found An AVENGERS VS. X-MEN Tease In The AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Cast Reveal

@TheVisionary25 - if it is in fact an Avengers vs. X-Men tease, whomever thought that up is an actual lighting wizard!

Likely just a shadow though hahah

@bkmeijer1 - agreed

Also I don’t really want to see that tbh.

@bkmeijer1 - The only question I have had thus far is if Tatum is reprising his role as D&W cajun or if it's that universe's version and part of that team. The D&W credits did say Gambit would return though.

@TGDestroyer - I'm kinda hoping the Doomsday X-Men are actually the '97 X-Men finally making the jump to live-action. Then he would be a different Gambit.

No way that's happening though. I bet it's just the X-Men team from the Days of Future Past ending, with D&W's Gambit dropped in that reality to join them.

@TGDestroyer - I think thewent down that hole by putting Storm in What If without explanation. Granted, that wasn't live-action though.

I don't put it besides Marvel though. We saw an animated series inspired in Multiverse of Madness, and they keep playing that theme everywhere too.

@bkmeijer1 @slickrickdesigns @TheVisionary25 @MotherGooseUPus - Yeah, I agree with y'all. The reason that "CA:CW" was a watered down version of the comics Civil War is because they didn't have the rights to all the characters, so they decided to make the story more about Steve, Tony, and Bucky (which was fine in my opinion).

But now that they have the rights to pretty much all the characters, so they don't to do a half-assed version of "AvX" just to shoehorn it into "A:DD" and/or "A:SW", so I really don't think that they're going to do that. I think that Feige knows how big an actual "AvX" movie could be, and would likely make for a great Avengers/X-Men movie somewhere during the Mutant Saga (with presumably the new MCU X-Men vs. whatever iteration of the Avengers is happening at that time).

So I agree with you guys that there will likely be an initial confrontation between our current roster of Avengers and the Fox-Men due to an incursion between their respective universes, but they will ultimately resolve it and team up against Doom, only to have the movie end on a cliffhanger where they discover that Doom has caused all kinds of incursion resulting in Battleworld leading into "A:SW". Or something like that.

@bkmeijer1 - To your first point, I can easily see that as how they could go, with villains like Sinister and such being the big bads of the phases of the "Mutant Saga" (or whatever), but planting the seeds for a proper AvX as the conclusion of the saga, as you say. My guess is that after whatever happens in "A:DD" and "A:SW" the resulting Avengers and X-Men teams will shake hands and walk away, with the Avengers doing their own thing and the X-Men doing their own (similar to how it woks in the comics), but I do think that they will start laying the seeds for an eventual AvX, which will probably be similar to the comics, with it being about the Phoenix Force.

I honestly don't think that at this point they're going to go down the road of Jean Grey/Phoenix/Dark Phoenix any time soon (or possibly at all considering it's been done twice already), so I could see it being handled like how it was in AvX. But that would be after phases involving possibly different storylines such as Inferno, X-Tinction Agenda, etc.

Regarding "A:DD", I dunno. I definitely think that Doom will be introduced in "FF:FS" in some capacity, and I think it's possible that the movie will end with their universe having an incursion with another, resulting in both universes ending up in chunks as the FF and Doom escaping to the 616 universe, possibly sparking the idea in Doom that when incursions happen universes collide and if someone had the power they could take those remaining pieces and use them as building blocks to build their own, "perfect" universe, which I think is kinda what you're saying.

But then the real question is if Doom is going to sit by and wait for incursions to happen, OR to figure out how to make them happen, basically speeding up the inevitable (sound like "DP&W"?), so that he can collect the pieces he needs to create his "perfect" universe, i.e., the new Sacred Timeline. I tend to think that Doom is more of a "F**k it, I'll do it myself." kinda guy, but where he would get the power to be able to do that would be interesting. Maybe that's where they tie it into the Kangs, specifically the Conqurer who got sucked into his machine, essentially making him the Beyonder (similar to the recent "A:KD" story leaks).

Anyhow, I'm just reaching here, but overall, it seems slightly feasible that perhaps a very small amount of what I just laid out could possibly work it's way into either of those movies, so time to report everything that I just said as a "rumor from a reliable source" 😉.

@bkmeijer1 - Yeah, who knows how they're actually going t handle all this (well, technically, Feige, McFeely, and the Russos know), but I think that you and I are both basically circling around the same general likely scenarios, albeit with different details. Hell, there's a chance that we're both WAY off and thy'll take a totally different approach to both "A:DD" and "A:SW" and there may never even be an actual AvX movie, but I don't think we're too far off the mark for what they have planned.

In fact, it's entirely possible that Feige is even talking to the Russos about returning to helm an AvX 2-parter as the capper of the Mutant Saga (there have already been rumors that they could be overseeing the Mutant Saga itself, but I'm assuming that that would be based on the success of "A:DD" and "A:SW"). So I guess we'll just have to wait and see. But I can't deny that my anticipation is growing, especially after that (likely partial) cast reveal for "A:DD".

@bkmeijer1 - An interesting gamble indeed, but I think that if they can catch lightning in a bottle for a couple more times with "A:DD" and "A:SW", Feige might decide that that's good enough for him to put an entire saga in their hands. Now regardless of the success of those 2 movies, putting and entire saga in the hands of 2 directors in and of itself is risky, not to mention 2 directors who have had a hit or miss history outside of the MCU, so Kevin may not want to take that risk (of course he could always change course along the way).

On the other hand, the Russos have their own production company to run and other projects lined up, so they may not want to step away from that for all that time (hell, they're going to be away long enough as it is just for "A:DD" and "A:SW"). Then again, for them MCU projects have been VERY successful (not a miss yet) so considering their track record outside of the MCU that may seem very compelling.

Either way, it's premature to get too far into it when cameras haven't even started rolling on "A:DD" yet. So we'll just have to wait and see.

@bkmeijer1 - Yeah, realistically if everything goes well for "A:DD" and "A:SW", I could see them returning for a 2 part AvX at the end of the Mutant Saga like they're doing for the Multiverse Saga, but I don't really see them pausing whatever they have going on/planned for AGBO to run a whole multi-year saga for Marvel. At the most we could maybe see some creative input/consulting/high level direction, but I doubt it. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

If "A:DD" hits $2 billion (likely) and "A:SW" hits $2.5 billion (lpossible depending on the success of "A:DD") or even $3 billion (doubtful but possible), that will likely have an impact on the future of the Russos' involvement in the MCU, but again, we'll just have to wait and see. In the meantime, my hype for just "A:DD" alone is rising, and now with the announcement of "SM:BND" coming in right after that... 😊

@bkmeijer1 - Same here. And we must both do our civic duties to make that happen by seeing each of those movies at least 8-10 times in the theaters 😉. Cheers! 🍻

@TGDestroyer - I just don't see them trusting each other at first. Iron Man & Thor didn't even know each other and they went straight into fight mode.

Either way though, I think now is a good time to do a scene with Avengers fighting the X-Men. Especially if it's the Fox X-Men.

@TGDestroyer - Yeah I think that's what may happen, but I also think someone will screw it up for everyone which will lead to Secret Wars.

Similar to Star-Lord in Infinity War. But I think it may be more as a betrayal than someone getting the emotions get the best of them. Maybe Magneto goes his own way.

@TGDestroyer - Yeah I think it can work, just depends how they do pull it off. But I do sense someone will betray them and make them lose. Hell it could even be Doctor Strange. Maybe Doom is Sorcerer Supreme.

Yes to McAvoy and Fassbender. Especially Fassbender. But yeah I'm excited because the OG's will get the shot to portray the comic characters they should of in 2000 rather than a watered down version of them. Which I'm hoping we see more of Cyclops try to be a leader and not just "Yeah I shoot laser beams!"

@MakeAmericaGrea - People aren't disciplined enough to boycott anything these days I think. It'll be good, mid, or just bad imo.

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