AVENGERS: ENDGAME Star Hayley Atwell On Shooting That Final Scene, WHAT IF?, And Whether Peggy's Story Is Over

AVENGERS: ENDGAME Star Hayley Atwell On Shooting That Final Scene, WHAT IF?, And Whether Peggy's Story Is Over

In a new interview, Hayley Atwell reveals when she shot her Avengers: Endgame scenes, whether there were any Peggy Carter moments that didn't make the final cut, her role in What If?, and much more!

By JoshWilding - Aug 17, 2019 12:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
Avengers: Endgame ends with Steve Rogers finally getting to share that dance with Peggy Carter, a woman he's been in love with since World War II. Unfortunately, 70 years on ice means their romance never got off the ground, but one of the benefits of time-travel is that Captain America could seek her out and get his happily ever after. 

Now, Hayley Atwell has opened up about her role in the movie, and that scene, for her, happened a long time ago. "I think we shot that maybe two years ago," she reveals. "So, it was maybe a few weeks before then that I got the call saying, "We’re thinking about this… What do you think about it? It might end the whole franchise." Then, it was an afternoon of filming about two years ago."

As for her reaction to the scene, Atwell adds:

"I thought it was a fitting end to a story that has affected so many people. I thought it was very endearing, innocent and wholesome in the way that it keeps those characters in their time. I thought it was quite beautiful and very tasteful of Marvel to finish this 10-year story in a very simple storyline about two human beings — and one of them doesn’t even have any superpowers. So, I thought the tone of it, to end there, after some extraordinary things of trauma, action, effects and powers… to just have two people slow-dancing was very beautiful."

After confirming that the only things she shot were that dance and the scene in S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Headquarters back in the 1970s, the actress went on to reveal that she's already recorded her lines for Disney+ animated series What If?. "I’ll do half an afternoon on Endgame, or then you’re in the studio for a couple of hours on What If…? Because so many fans love this franchise, it’s so much bigger than the time that affected my actual life, which is a remarkable thing."
 
Finally, talk turned to her future as the character, and Atwell admitted that if she never gets to play Peggy again, she's quite happy with the time she's spent in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. 
 
"I feel really fulfilled. It was a great time, and I think they ended it beautifully with Endgame. It feels like a fitting end to that narrative. I’m a classically trained theater actor so I want a stab at the challenging parts in the canon for theatrical actresses. That’s something that I’ve always aspired towards. So, I feel lucky to have played her, but she’s one aspect of my career. She’s one part that I’ve played. With every job that I’ve done, I’ve taken the job because I’ve seen something within the character that I’d love to explore or try and be challenged by. With a leading part, it requires a lot of my focus and passion, but it’s the same focus and passion whether it’s Peggy Carter or it’s Rebecca West in Rosmersholm on stage, which I just finished. It’s the same curiosity to see what each character’s world is."

There are, of course, rumours that we'll see Peggy in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s final season, but, for now, it definitely feels like Agent Carter's story has reached its end in a satisfying manner. 

Hit the "View List" button for a recap of all the big
reveals from Avengers: Endgame's Director's Commentary!

How Captain Marvel Found The Guardians' Ship

Tony-Stark


Captain Marvel met Earth's Mightiest Heroes at the end of her solo movie, but we don't know what happened between then and the moment she flew into outer space to rescue Tony Stark.

Well, according to the Russos, she was brought up to speed with what was going on off screen and there was some sort of homing beacon on the ship that Carol was able to use in order to track Iron Man down. That addresses what some fans have claimed is a plot hole since this past April. 
 

The Russo Brothers' Favourite Easter Egg

Hulka


Now that we can watch Avengers: Endgame at home, we're bound to start finding Easter Eggs we missed the first time around. One of those has now been revealed by the Russos, and they say that it's their favourite. It can be seen when the team is sitting around a table and The Hulk is snacking on Ben & Jerry's "Hunka Hulka Burnin' Fudge."

As you may recall, Doctor Strange and Tony Stark discussed ice-cream flavors in Avengers: Infinity War when we learned that Iron Man also had a flavour named after him: "Stark Raving Hazelnuts."
 

What's The Deal With The Red Skull?

Red-Skull


Believe it or not, the movie's writers and directors seem to be unable to agree on what happened to the Red Skull once the Soul Stone was taken from Vormir. Confirming that Captain America would have had to have bumped into his old foe, the filmmakers discussed whether the Skull would have been freed from his bonds or if the Stone returning would have then pulled him back.
 

The Team Suits Are Entirely CG

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During the scene where Hawkeye travels back in time to find out whether the time-travel tech actually works, we get to see one of those awesome "Team Suits" in action for the first time. 

As that sequence takes place, Joe Russo confirms that "None of this suit exists" and confirms that they're all brought to life solely with visual effects rather than practical costumes. 
 

How Thanos Travelled Through Time

Thanos-Time


If you've been wondering about how Thanos managed to travel through time in order to confront Earth's Mightiest Heroes, there is actually an explanation. According to the filmmakers, the Mad Titan and Ebony Maw managed to reverse engineer the Pym Particles from Nebula's suit in order to shrink their ship and make their way to the present day. As explanations go, that's not too bad. 
 

Nebula Doesn't Know How Gamora Died

Nebula


Interestingly, while Nebula may have figured out on Titan that her sister Gamora was killed by their "father," McFeely explains that she wouldn't know exactly how that ended up happening.

"No one knows other than anybody who was there," the writer reveals. Instead, Nebula "just knows her sister didn't come back, and he left with the stone." Sadly, her body is likely still there. 
 

Robert Redford's Final Role

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Robert Redford announced quite some time ago that he was retiring from acting, so fans were suprised when the 82 year old actor appeared in Avengers: Endgame

According to Markus, Redford himself said that it would be his last big screen appearance, so that makes this Marvel Studios movie even more historic given what a legendary actor he is. 
 

A Surprisingly "Controversial" Line

America-s-Ass


Marvel Studios always stays in the PG-13 realm, hence why we've never heard an F-Bomb in the MCU. However, according to Joe, "probably the most controversial joke in the whole movie" comes when Ant-Man praises Captain America for having "America's Ass."

He adds that the line was "hotly debated," and that it was even more controversial when Steve said it to his past self. 
 

Smart Hulk's Scrapped Debut

Hulk-Buster


When Avengers: Infinity War was released, we saw toys featuring The Hulk bursting out of the Hulkbuster armour. That moment never came in the movie, and McFeely confirms that it was a scene originally meant to take place in the 2018 release before it was ultimately cut because there wasn't space for it.

"He was fighting in Wakanda," McFeely says. "The whole arc of the story was Banner and Hulk were not getting along. Hulk wouldn't come out to help him. And at his hour of greatest need, they make some sort of compromise, and Smart Hulk rips out of the armor and beats the crap out of Cull Obsidian and destroys him."

"It was pretty clear that the movie could not handle this weird success,"
he continues. "The movie needed to just stay in its succession of losses in the third act, which meant some hustling on the part of VFX late in the game."
 

Tony Stark's Gaunt Appearance

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In order to make Tony Stark look so gaunt at the start of the film, VFX work was needed to change Robert Downey Jr.'s appearance. "Our VFX team did an exceptional job taking some weight off of him and making him look like he is on death's door," Joe reveals. "And the intent here was to make you believe, if momentarily, that we may actually kill Tony Stark at the start of the film."

Joe went on to say that Tony lecturing Captain America about everything that had happened between them was a highlight for him. "The moment here is one of my favorite acting moments of the movie. This is their essential conflict, and Tony can't get past it."
 

Why Hawkeye Was Cut From Avengers: Infinity War

Ronin


We've heard this in the past, but it's confirmed during the movie's Director's Commentary that Hawkeye's scene with his daughter was originally going to be included in Avengers: Infinity War

However, the Russos say they found it "too disorientating" to cut from Thanos' snap to what's going on with Clint Barton's family and notes that "We're already cutting between a lot of people at that point in the film" so a random scene with the archer might have been too much for audiences. 
 

When The "I Am Iron Man" Scene Was Shot

Tony-2


We know that Robert Downey Jr.'s final scene was the last one he filmed, but it was also the last shot of the entire movie.

According to Joe and Anthony, it was filmed during reshoots back in January at Hollywood's Raleigh Studios, a location right by where the actor did his first screentest for the role of Tony Stark/Iron Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Awesome, eh? 
 

A Different Take On Captain Marvel's Introduction

Carol-D


We mentioned at the start of this post how Captain Marvel was able to track down Tony Stark and Nebula, but her introduction in the movie was originally going to play out much differently. 

It would have taken place when she returned to Earth with the ship rather than in outer space. "We felt like it was not as successful of a reveal. We just didn't like the transition," Joe explains before Markus adds: "[The] idea will be that there'd be orange light on Tony's face. He'd see something. The audience wouldn't see it, and then only would you reveal what happened there."
 

A Thor And Korg Sitcom?

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One of the movie's best moments comes when we catch up with Thor and find out that he's been living in New Asgard with Korg and Miek. Joe compares the entire thing to "a sublime BBC comedy" and jokes that he'd love to see seven seasons of this as a TV show. "I'm also very fond of the fact that the magical weapon he took the entire last movie to get a hold of is now a bottle opener." 
 

How Iron Man Removed The Stones From The Gauntlet

Thanos-Titan


There's been a lot of discussion about how Iron Man was able to remove the Infinity Stones from the Gauntlet Thanos was wearing, as it did seem a little convenient that the hero had somehow created that tech. Well, the filmmakers elaborated on that by explaining that Tony used nano tech in both his suit and the Gauntlet he created so that they would be able to talk to each other. 
 

The Rat That Saved The Universe

Scott


In movies, a lot of big moments happen because of a coincidence and that's exactly how Scott Lang is brought back to the present day when a rat steps on the control panel in his van. 

"Now, we have a rule in writing that, you know, sort of coincidences," McFeely explained. "You're sort of allowed them in act one. A coincidence late in the movie is perhaps lazy. I'm delighted that a rat has saved the universe." As coincidences go, it's fair to say that it was a pretty good one. 
 

1970s Peggy Carter Nearly Didn't Make The Cut

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During those scenes set in the 1970s, Steve Rogers finds himself in Peggy Carter's office and watches her from afar. However, that scene wasn't included in earlier versions of the movie. 

"Our first draft did not have this, and it would have been a shame," confirms McFeely. "It's really lovely. Just the structure of the scene. The production design, setting up this office in such a way that he can be in shadow and she can be in light." Joe adds, "And that performance from [Chris] Evans, the longing on his face without a single line of dialogue, you understand how important she is to him and how much he misses her." It also reminded fans about their relationship.
 

How Thanos Was Able To Destroy Captain America's Shield

Steve-Cap


In the comic books, Thanos manages to destroy Captain America's shield with his bare hands. While his big screen counterpart is equally as powerful, Avengers: Endgame takes things in a different direction by having the villain use his sword.

Apparently, while Vibranium is the strongest metal on Earth, whatever Thanos' sword is made of is stronger (and it could be that Eitri created it). 
 

A Key Moment At The End Of The Movie

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Here's something you probably didn't notice: at the end of the movie when Captain America and Peggy Carter finally get their dance, the door to her house is open. That's because this scene takes place minutes after he arrives at her front door, which obvioulsy suggests they didn't want to waste any time after being reunited.

It's a small touch, but one that shows how great the Russo Brothers are. 
 

Captain America's Severed Head

Steve-Cap2


We've been hearing a lot about a scrapped sequence featuring Captain America's severed head, and that's elaborated on during this Director's Commentary. "There was another version where Thanos opened up a large portal on the battlefield where it became evident that in his own time frame, he had come to Earth," Markus explains.

"And he walked up to them [present day Avengers] and tossed 2012 Captain America's head on the floor. It seemed like it was never gonna make it, but it was. For a movie that began with essentially Thanos' head on the floor, it was a shocking reversal." That definitely would have been quite something, but wouldn't Thor's head have been more fitting? 
 
 
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Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 8/17/2019, 1:23 AM
Atwell got a bit of a raw deal. Everyone loved her in a part that was never really meant to be more than a one movie starring role, then she got overexposed in a TV spin-off that didn't do her or her character a huge amount of justice. Then she weirdly got relegated to a send-off without any lines where the focus was almost entirely on what she means to Steve rather than what they meant to each other.

She's great and I wish her all the best (and fingers crossed for a "Cap's Cross-Time Caper" movie that fleshes out her and Steve's splinter universe).
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 8/17/2019, 1:26 AM
Maybe some enterprising YouTuber will stitch together some of the more maudlin scenes from the Agent Carter series with the movie stuff for Cap's side to make that reunion feel more symmetrical.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 8/17/2019, 2:20 AM
@Spock0Clock - I don’t know... I personally could feel what they really mean to each other all along from all of the establishing work in The First Avenger as well as the Agent Carter series (season 1, which did the most with her feelings for Steve.).

That she was brought back for that solo series, as well as Winter Soldier (both in current time and in newsreel footage), Agents of SHIELD, Ant-Man, quoted in Civil War, and had speaking lines in Endgame in the 70’s running SHIELD, and is still getting a What If? centered around her makes her feel like way more than the leading man’s subplot, but a realized character in her own right. That neither she or Steve had any lines together or in that final shot seems appropriate enough as a send-off to them both... I don’t know that anything needed to be said.

You’re definitely right though that her role would have been a one-off had audiences not loved her as Peggy Carter.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 8/17/2019, 2:43 AM
@Chewtoy - She's definitely a well realized character when you put the pieces of her character together (though a lot of her solo series meanders), but I guess I'm still a bit dissatisfied with how she was depicted in Endgame. It was a packed movie, so I understand not having an entire subplot about her, but having the major set-up being Steve peeping into her office just struck the wrong note for me.
CLTMAN29
CLTMAN29 - 8/17/2019, 2:53 AM
@Spock0Clock - The weirst thing about that, given how good their continuity is, is there was no effort to make her look older. 30 years after Agent Carter and only 10-12 before the opening scene of Ant-Man where she's in her late 60s. I know it was probably to keep the idea of you her youth and beauty alive for Steve, but it just didn't ring true at all. Jarvis too had not been aged in the slightest.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 8/17/2019, 3:04 AM
@Spock0Clock - I think the issue is her romance with Steve is idealistic and not realistic. I was weirdly thinking about my favourite couple in the MCU and I'm sure most people would pick Steve and Peggy, but when I do think about it, it's really Tony and Pepper.

What makes these two really work is that their relationship feels the most real with superhero stuff thrown in. Pepper pretty much deals with a man who has an addiction who promises to her again and again that he will change and quit but he knows he can't. He puts her in danger multiple times but she can't be too mad about it because he's a good man trying to do the right thing. They break up because of this like adults but they get back together too because Pepper learns to love the man Tony Stark is, not who she needs him to be. Their relationship has compromise, ups and downs, but there's real love there.

Peggy is basically the one that got away with Steve. They never had a real relationship, as far as we saw. Peggy symbolizes ideally what Steve could have had if there was no war. It's all about the dance they never got to have, going to the movies, all that stuff. It also doesn't help that Peggy's attraction to Steve starts immediately after he becomes buff. Yes the film establishes that Steve has an intrinsic value of goodness compared to the other candidates but Peggy isn't attracted to him before the SSS. He's more something she's curious about.

I think this fits both Tony and Steve's characters perfectly when you think about it. Steve being more of an idealist gets the happy ending. He gets his dance with Peggy and as far as we know they grow old together loving each other. We don't see them have a real relationship, a real marriage, kids and all that. It's presented as a dream come true from a fairytale. Tony on the other hand, dies and leaves a wife, daughter and a boy who needs a father figure behind. He's more of the realist and he knew everything he was risking.
Timerider84
Timerider84 - 8/17/2019, 7:38 AM
@Spock0Clock - I would have had Steve knock on her door at the end, she opens the door, in shock and awe. Steve says to Peggy, "I'm sorry I'm late" Peggy tells Steve, "Don't let it happen again" they embrace and kiss. Then they show them dancing.
Radders
Radders - 8/19/2019, 7:36 AM
@DnA - I understand your point of view, Tony/Pepper is the depiction of a relationship but Steve/Peggy is a relationship that never happened. Its more romantic and is something people can probably identify with or a "great romance" they long for.

However, I don't agree with your interpretation of Peggy's attraction only starting after he became buff. She was attracted to the spirit of the man, his heart, him becoming buff was a bonus. After all, the photo that Peggy has of Steve is always pre-Cap.
Robby
Robby - 8/17/2019, 1:26 AM
If anything I believe her part as live action Peggy which is a shame. Can't wait for that one episode of What If...? tho
JDL
JDL - 8/17/2019, 2:00 AM
Interesting. Lost of folks think the final season of AoS will be centered on her because of Enver Gjokaj (agent, then love interest) getting the gift given to cast members at the end of S7 filming. If she's in S7 there certainly is no sign of it here.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 8/17/2019, 2:24 AM
@JDL - She’s the founder of SHIELD... she can keep a secret. ;-)

They already filmed the final season of AoS, haven’t they? So either way she’s done playing the character of Peggy by the time of this interview.
JDL
JDL - 8/17/2019, 5:12 PM
@Chewtoy - H.A. might be done but if Peggy is in AoS S7 the character is not. The quotes are worded such that one would assume the character has no more appearances left.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/17/2019, 3:37 AM
I'm not ashamed to admit that I teared up during that final scene in Endgame....and before that, and before that....
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 8/17/2019, 3:49 AM
@RorMachine - Same. But only three times!

*Puffs out chest in manly fashion.*
DaHyro
DaHyro - 8/17/2019, 4:28 AM
Still feel like it wasn’t in character :/

I mean, they set up his romance with Sharon three years ago.(not saying I prefer that relationship, but its what was established)

I totally imagine that this was done only because Chris didn’t want to do more, otherwise he never would have went back
JonC
JonC - 8/17/2019, 9:55 PM
@DaHyro - having the hots for Sharon (when you are searching for compatibility as a man out of time) is not the same as a life-long romance with the one that started your journey to love in the first place.
Repian
Repian - 8/17/2019, 5:03 AM
Peggy Carter has to return to see the team dynamic between Peggy and Steve in the new "secret past" of Cap. Maybe Cap and Peggy as agents of SHIELD during the Cold War.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 8/17/2019, 5:51 AM
"I thought it was quite beautiful and very tasteful of Marvel to finish this 10-year story in a very simple storyline about two human beings"

That quote pretty much summarizes why Marvel are who they are. They really made a movie that has both of these scenes and they BOTH hit


Nebula
Nebula - 8/17/2019, 6:02 AM
CWBNGAJEEPGUY85
CWBNGAJEEPGUY85 - 8/17/2019, 6:38 AM
I finally saw this movie last night. Hands down the best Marvel movie. Even after reading all the spoilers, the articles and your reactions, the movie still got me a little emotional. Job well done Marvel!
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