Marvel May Be Planning To Replace Jonathan Majors As Kang, But We Shouldn't Expect Announcement "Anytime Soon"

Marvel May Be Planning To Replace Jonathan Majors As Kang, But We Shouldn't Expect Announcement "Anytime Soon" Marvel May Be Planning To Replace Jonathan Majors As Kang, But We Shouldn't Expect Announcement "Anytime Soon"

It sounds like the rumors that Marvel Studios is indeed planning to cast a new actor as Kang the Conqueror might well be accurate, but fans shouldn't expect an announcemnet anytime soon...

By MarkCassidy - Jan 06, 2024 08:01 AM EST

After being found guilty last month of assault and harassment of ex-girlfriend Grace Jabbari, Jonathan Majors was fired from his role as Kang in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but that doesn't mean that the powerful villain won't be returning to the screen.

We've been hearing conflicting reports about Marvel's plans for the character, with the latest rumor claiming that the studio does intend to recast The Conqueror (Colman Domingo was recently mentioned as a possible replacement).

We still don't know for certain if this is accurate, but a post from Deadline's Justin Kroll would seem to suggest that, yes, another actor will be stepping into the Kang role... eventually.

"See a lot 'who will play Kang next' and 'here is a top contender for Kang' comments this week, and all I’ll say is this, don’t expect that news anytime soon," Kroll writes. "There will be plenty of Marvel breaks in coming weeks on various fronts but don’t hold your breath on that one."

"This isn’t dismissing any rumor this week about potential contenders for the role," he added. "I don’t have any intel on those being true or not true it’s just letting you know, if I were betting what gets announced first, Kang or the field, I’d put money on the field."

Jeff Sneider also weighed in with the following.

It sounds like we'll be getting word on several other big MCU projects and Marvel's ongoing Phase 5 and 6 plans before any Kang announcement, but that doesn't mean Kevin Feige isn't already considering potential replacements.

As for the next Avengers movie, it's believed that The Kang Dynasty subtitle has been dropped (no surprise there), and the project is being referred to internally as "Avengers 5" for the time being. To what extent the current story will be altered remains to be seen, but Marvel revamping it as "Secret Wars Part 1" is sounding more and more likely.

Sneider has heard that "Secret Wars is basically shaping up to be a giant five-hour movie with a year-long intermission.”

As we know, Loki writer Michael Waldron was hired to pen a new draft, but reports indicate that the events of Loki season 2 are still going to inform the main plotline, which means Kang would remain on as a central character.

Majors will sit down for his first on-screen interview since his conviction this Monday, and you can check out a preview here.

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Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/6/2024, 8:18 AM
The order of priorities makes sense, even if I don't trust this scooper as always giving fact based leaks, however in regards to a recast don't think they will announce that until well after sentencing even if contracts are already signed for new actor(s) for the various Kangs. Could easily see them playing safer and having both younger and older variants cast thus could easily be upto three new faces in the roles (one of which could be bringing in a young Iron Lad).

Could be fun just to throw a curce ball to have the actor who played Eli Bradley appear as Iron Lad only to later show it is a Kang Variant when faced with the real Eli in the role of Patriot. I would tend to think however that they avoid (or a least minimise) the storyline of Bradley abusing a temp super serum and instead could do a needs a blood transfusion from Gramps instead resulting from those two facing off with each other.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/6/2024, 8:56 AM
@Apophis71 - having different actors take on the role of the same character is actually pretty smart. It worked for The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, so it's not breaking new ground either
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/6/2024, 8:18 AM
Low-key slaps, not gonna lie:

Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 1/6/2024, 8:58 AM
@DrReedRichards - reminds me of breaking bad and better call saul days
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/6/2024, 9:11 AM
@Gabimaru -

Reminds me of Jessica Jones and Black Sails, but I hear those two you're saying.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 1/6/2024, 9:35 AM
@DrReedRichards - I'm not a fan of the beginning percussions. Like it's being recorded in a generic metal factory. Picks up at the one minute mark, though. My industrial days are long behind me.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/6/2024, 9:41 AM
@Reeds2Much -

Nah, I'm guilty of still being a sucker for those beats, but that's not even my favourite part. It's folk blend with rock/metal background riffs that does it for me. Like, folk metal is literally my absolute favourite subgenre of music.

Symphonic folk metal.
Symphonic ethnic folk metal.
Symphonic ethnic folk power metal.
Instrumental symphonic ethnic folk power metal.

...okay, I'm done.
StSteven
StSteven - 1/6/2024, 3:18 PM
@DrReedRichards - Thanks for sharing that track. That was pretty banging. If you like symphonic stuff you might dig this:

https://www.amazon.com/Us-Them-Symphonic-Pink-Floyd/dp/B0000040UZ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=18F1ZTT47G48Y&keywords=us+and+them+symphonic+pink+floyd&qid=1704572037&sprefix=us+and+them%2Caps%2C100&sr=8-1

I got a copy back in my college days and just found it while looking for something in my CD collection and it still holds up, even if I'm not stoned out of my gourde these days 😉.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/6/2024, 3:49 PM
@StSteven -

Thanks for sharing yours too, man! I love reorchestrations, so yeah, I'm familiar with that album. My favourite single track has to be the orchestral version of Led Zeppelin's Stairway To Heaven, but my absolute favourite symphonic rock album is Scorpions' Moment Of Glory, and my favourite symphonic metal band has to be Nightwish.
StSteven
StSteven - 1/6/2024, 4:00 PM
@DrReedRichards - I'm familiar with all of that except for "Nightwish" so I'll have to check that out sometime. Like I was saying a little while ago the last time we were discussing our respective musical tastes, mine got to be VERY broad and eclectic over the years, and I especially appreciate it when bands/groups take songs from one genre and redo it in another. Phish is a good example of this, as they are all jazz-trained musicians and they can take jazz songs (and other genres) and redo them in really jamming ways you wouldn't expect. Like I have one of their live albums somewhere where are doing just this banging rendition of "Take the A-train" and manage to seamlessly work "The Simpsons" theme song into it.

I mentioned before that when I was in college I gained an appreciation for classical music through a good friend of mine (in exchange for me really getting him into rock 'n roll) and we had a "band" where we would all just get together (we all lived in the same house), get f**ked up, and just jam. And one of the things that we would do is take classical songs and turn them into upbeat trippy jams. Like one of my favorites to do that with was "In the Hall of the Mountain King". You can really swing the hell out of the rhythm with that one.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/6/2024, 5:24 PM
@StSteven -

I feel like we're more or less on the same page, so I think you'll at least appreciate the sound of Nightwish. They're a symphonic / power metal band from Finland, with a hint of folk element too.

I personally play the keys, whether it is classical piano or the synth, though never having undergone any formal musical education, just playing it by ear. Typically into old school rock sounds as a teen (born in '91), later going more into metal and its subgenres, and through cinema I got more and more into orchestrations and symphonic arrangements, whether it os original classical music or renditions of more modern riffs.

Those redo's of tracks that you mentioned is why one of my favourite gaming franchises in terms of soundtrack (besides the obvious Zelda and Final Fantasy and such) is Monster Hunter. It's heavily symphonic with ethnic instrumentations, and has released dozens of albums with renditions of its score in rock, jazz, swing, music box, you name it. Hell, even in the recent One Piece adaptation of Netflix, my favourite track of the score is one where the main theme is played over and over again in different styles, depending on the characters shown on screen.

As for Hall Of The Mountain King, yeah, it's an earworm that I whistle several times a day, haha. Though my personal jam is a 3/4 walz rendition of Gerudo Valley from Ocarina Of time. I spent over a year experimenting on that thing, and still add small changes to it every time I play it.
StSteven
StSteven - 1/6/2024, 10:38 PM
@DrReedRichards - Yeah, it sounds like we have a lot of the same tastes in music (as "non-conventional" as they may be). But I think that that comes as a result of being a musician. Even if you don't LOVE some particular type of music, you have a respect for it because you know what goes into making it.

Likewise I was never "formally" trained in music theory, although 12 took guitar lessons for 12 years throughout which I don't think my instructor ever had much hope for me as a serious musician so he'd just put some chord charts, modes, or scales in front of me without really explaining what it all meant. Then he'd just have me learn random songs that he liked (I distinctly recall "New Kid in Town" by the Eagles being in there) until I started developing my own taste in music, which was when I was getting into hair metal bands (i.e. Motley Crue, Skidrow, etc.) along with Metallica and then into Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, etc. So I was bring those songs in for him to teach me (probably to his chagrin).

During the last year or so of high school is where I learned drums and bass, but I didn't start learning piano/keys until I hooked up with that friend of mine in college that I mentioned earlier. We were in a fraternity together and our rooms were next to each other (there were 4 of us living the basement of the house which was where you went if you wanted to party any time of the day/night) and we had a pretty open policy about wandering into each others' rooms. So I would go over to my friend's room (he was also a piano/keys guy) and sit down at his keyboard and learn how to play songs that I knew on the guitar on the keyboard (I think the first one was "Wish You Were Here".

He helped me to start to get a feel for music theory, but I really learned it hardcore a couple of year later when I was still making my way through college. I even wrote the first chapter of a book on music theory for guitar players for this girl that I was trying to hook up with who was as aspiring guitar player. Did it work? Well I'll just say that I never made it past the first chapter because I didn't have to 😉.

Anyhow, speaking of crossing genres, particularly with classical, I'll leave you with this to jam out to:



It's Phish doing a rock/jazz/funk/whatever the f**k version of "Also Sprach Zarathustra" from a show a couple of months ago. My "band" and I would do something similar when we would jam, but nothing even close to this. Enjoy!
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/6/2024, 11:11 PM
@StSteven -

Totally worth the share. Thanks, man! Now, if you'll allow me a shameless plug for a fellow compatriot...



...yeah, this has to be the one for me. Vivaldi is a classic (pun heavily intended) but Yanni's instrumentation with the full orchestra, his synth in the background, the violin duet and the harp solo? Mwah, chef's kiss!
StSteven
StSteven - 1/7/2024, 1:07 AM
@DrReedRichards - You had me at Vivaldi (I'm a sucker for the Baroques), but I'm getting a "not available in your country" error from YouTube.ut I'll be imagining it when I crash. I mean, f**king YANNI for Christ's sake? C'mon! 😊
StSteven
StSteven - 1/7/2024, 1:14 AM
@DrReedRichards - Also, regarding that cut from Phish, one of the things that I love about them is their ability to improvise (i.e. JAM) live, which you don't often see with bigger name bands during large performances. I mean most have their rehearsed solos and whatever, but I do love "jam-bands" (and for Phish that goes back to their jazz roots I think). For example, when I was looking up a good cut of that "ASZ" jam to share, I watched a couple of different videos just from this year and the were all quite different (with the exception of the common "ASZ" chords). One cut from MSG in July actually ended with them transitioning into the chords from "Hold Your Head Up" by Argent at the end. Gotta love that kinda improvisation, especially during live performances.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 1/8/2024, 3:33 AM
@StSteven -

Gentlemen,

This has been a wonderfully revealing discussion to follow

However

I would be incredibly remiss

In not pointing out that

YES and EMERSON, LAKE, and PALMER absolutely smoke them all

Every. Single. One
StSteven
StSteven - 1/8/2024, 2:44 PM
@SauronthePower @DrReedRichards - Damn you! You beat me to it! I was literally thinking about them after I posted my last post when I was off doing something else around my house and I meant to mention them and forgot. Yes, Keith Emerson is a f**king god. I don't know if you've ever sen them in concert, but I did once when I was an undergrad and it's a crazy-ass story: my buddies and I drove from UIUC up to Chicago to see them and the show was itself amazing. Keith was dressed like Zorro and probably the craziest part was when he was going off on a solo and dragged this small organ out from backstage and was hammering away at it and rocking it back and forth so that the reverb box (or whatever it was) in it would crash in rhythm. The he took 2 daggers (yes daggers) out from his belt and jammed them in between the keys to hold the chord. He threw the organ away them went over to his grand piano, whacked the arm out from under the lid, climbed on top of the piano, and played the rest of the solo upside-down laying on his stomach! Jesus!!!

Then (and I'm not saying these events were in any way connected) my car caught fire and exploded on the way home (looping in @bkmeijer1 just so I don't have to repeat this story as this is going to be a lot of typing). Seriously. We had crashed at one of my buddy's places in Chicago after the show and headed back to school the next day. And about 30 miles north of UIUC, my engine started overheating (which was odd because I had thoroughly inspected everything before taking the roadtrip, topped off all the fluids, etc. - I should mention that it was a '85 Mercury Topaz so there's that). Anyhow, I pulled over, popped the hood, and saw that the blower had become disconnected. So I put it back on, got back in and started driving again. A couple of minutes later the car started overheating again, so I pulled over again. This time it was the radiator cap that had come loose, so I added some fluid, put the cap back on and got going. Now there was smoke coming out of the tailpipe but I figured that it was just the engine burning off the radiator fluid that had splashed all over when the cap came off, so no big deal. Then some people in another car pulled up next to me (we were doing about 65mph on the highway), rolled down their window, and said "You car's on fire!". I was like "What's wrong with the tire?" They said "No your car is on fire! You need to pull over!". And I was like "whatever" and my friends were like "What's wrong" and I told them that those people think the car is on fire because there's smoke coming out of the tailpipe but I'll pull over and take a look anyway.

So I pulled over, opened the hood and the f**king engine was in flames! So I shut the hood and grabbed a handful of my buddy's clothes from the trunk to bat the flames out with (we had stopped at our respective places along the way to get our winter clothes) and went to open the hood again but the hood had melted shut and there were flames coming out from underneath (my hand also ended up with very nasty burns from grabbing the hood). Anyhow I ran back and basically told my friends "Um, yeah, the car's on fire and it's going to explode any minute so we need to run!". So we all. ran a ways away and when I turned around the car was engulfed in 6-8 feet of flames (naturally there were idiots driving by who would slow down to look at it including -and I'm not making this up- a school bus). And then the flames hit the gas tank and kablooey! The only thing left of the car was the charred chassis. We lost everything that was in the car including those clothes, all our CD's, cell phones, my buddy who was a music major's binder of original music (yes, DrReedRichards, that same piano player friend of mine), all my equipment (I had a side job as a contract painter at the time), etc.

We got a ride back to town in an ambulance (for my hand) but the kicker was that the hospital was on the other side of town so we had to walk back to campus.

So, again, I'm not saying that there was a connection, but as I said ELP and especially Emerson were really... on fire during that show.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/8/2024, 4:53 PM
@StSteven - knew there was more to that car story. Didn't expect Keith Emerson to be a part of it though
StSteven
StSteven - 1/8/2024, 5:32 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah, I figured that I'd get around to telling you that one sooner or later so now seemed like a good time as it folded into our discussion on music and specifically ELP. If you ever get a chance to seem them, just remember:

Keith Emerson == 🔥
dragon316
dragon316 - 1/6/2024, 8:23 AM
Be fools not replace him keep him as kang shows people it’s ok for crimes he has done
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/6/2024, 8:34 AM
OFF TOPIC

Check-out the latest Marvel Studios Echo Trailer. Blood, Guts, Action Please

Echo is Kingpin's Daughter and she has a very long history with Daredevil in the comics even dated.


lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/6/2024, 8:36 AM
Kang just seemed like not worthy of the BIG BAD status. I don't read Marvel (LOVE their movie universe) so I wouldn't know much about Kang. On screen, he just didn't seem like a big threat.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/6/2024, 9:09 AM
@lazlodaytona - He would have if they knew what they were doing,it doesn't help that Majors over acts, look at Timely and having Kang get defeated in every movie or show.

Watch Avengers:Earths Mightiest Heroes that's how you do a Kang story.

He was great in that.
Vigor
Vigor - 1/6/2024, 9:59 AM
@lazlodaytona - I agree with @marvel72
Watch avengers EMH for a really memorable Kang

But even there he had a villain of the week kind of flavor (he just kept coming back). And that's how Kang is being built too. But instead of 1 Kang from different timelines. They're variants. I guess it's the same thing in a sense
ReverseFlasher
ReverseFlasher - 1/6/2024, 10:11 AM
@marvel72 - total agreement, I thoroughly enjoyed his first appearance as HWR, but he was over the top as Kang and Timely.

And earths mightiest is also the version of Kang I enjoyed most, his first appearance specifically.
AvalonX
AvalonX - 1/6/2024, 2:39 PM
@lazlodaytona - Kang is easily a top 5 Avengers villain. They just changed him way too much from the source material. Its the MCU's version that is watered down.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 1/6/2024, 8:39 AM
One does not simply replace THE GREAT MAN.

They can list priorities from Hell to Breakfast and it won't matter.

The MCU is DOA and no amount of spin doctoring will change that.

Aquaman 2 has ALREADY eclipsed The Marvels - a write off movie from a DEAD franchise in a DEAD universe and it will beat Girl Brand Marvels like they were Jonathan Major's significant other.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/6/2024, 9:18 AM
@Batmangina -

I'm sorry, but that is by definition untrue.

DOA stands for Dead On Arrival, and the MCU has been a thing for over a decade and a half. How is that DOA in any sense of the word?
Vigor
Vigor - 1/6/2024, 9:56 AM
@DrReedRichards - don't pay attention to him
Batmangina
Batmangina - 1/6/2024, 4:34 PM
@DrReedRichards - It just looks and sounds better on the page - how about 'The Marvels was DOA and signaled the official end of the MCU as a creative and financial juggernaut?'

'MCU is DOA' is WAY more punchy.

You can argue semantics but that won't bring the MCU back to life.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/6/2024, 4:43 PM
@Batmangina -

So, you wanna sound more aggressive against the MCU? For what, being once (and still) the most financially successful cinematic franchise?

It's one thing to want it dead, it's another to call it before it's even out of the top.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 1/6/2024, 4:55 PM
@DrReedRichards - The 10 year old me on the inside will forever rejoice in the 2012 reveal shot of The Avengers on the bridge and will always tear up when Cap FINALLY lifted Mjolnir (like we knew he could) to save Thor in Endgame.

If you think anything they've done since then is even remotely close to the Spirit of Marvel Comics as moments like those, you are mistaken.

That same inner 10 year old will now sit in the bleachers and root for the absolute destruction of the MCU as it stands now and for DisMarv to lose as much money as humanly possible for taking the best cinematic achievement (IMO) and turning it into a total [frick]ing embarrassment.

DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/6/2024, 5:03 PM
@Batmangina -

"...will now root for the absolute destruction of the MCU..."

Batmangina
Batmangina - 1/6/2024, 6:11 PM
@DrReedRichards - I freely admit that now and forever until they stop the flow of shitty content.

How many things have to be ruined before it's finally enough?

Star Wars?
Indiana Jones?
Marvel Comics?
Marvel Movies?
Doctor WHO?

Give me one IP on that level that has been improving since the DEI checklists were brought out.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 1/6/2024, 6:12 PM
@Vigor - How dare you assume my gender.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/6/2024, 6:30 PM
@Batmangina -

Wouldn't say quite say "freely", if you need to preceed your rant with a belated 2012 praise. Typical "I'm not a hater, buuuuut-" bs. Wasn't the first, won't be the last.
Vigor
Vigor - 1/6/2024, 6:52 PM
@Batmangina -

"If you think anything they've done since then is even remotely close to the Spirit of Marvel Comics as moments like those, you are mistaken."

She hulk and hawkeye are accurate af
You haven't read a comic in your life have ya?
Your issue is that they are now focusing on the women heroes when before it was the men

BTW this guy is only 21 😒
Batmangina
Batmangina - 1/6/2024, 7:00 PM
@DrReedRichards - Oh, I'm DEFINITELY a hater of the current shitty content. 100% Grade A Hater. HAY. TER.

Proudly. Gladly. Truly. Madly. Deeply.
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