EDITORIAL: The Avengers Movie Skates On Thin Ice!

EDITORIAL: The Avengers Movie Skates On Thin Ice!

Though Iron Man along with a number of other Marvel Studios films have done well, The Avengers may not follow the same path...

Editorial Opinion
By TheBoyBlunder - Jun 04, 2010 11:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers

Though I am very excited for The Avengers in 2012, my expectations remain low for the film itself. Its understandable that the villan(s) have not been revealed yet (though it is rumored to be the skrulls) due to how far away the release date is. Hearing who exactly this is may change my mind, hopefully for the better.

Marvel Studios better know what they are doing when making this film. Most of the Marvel Studios productions or movies involving Marvel characters provided very inviting settings and plots for their prospective audiences.

“Inviting” accurately describes the way each of the film’s main characters and their back stories were set up; from the outset of each film, the audience was presented with an opportunity to connect with the character.

Take The Marvel Studios Hulk film for example. In the beginning, the film focuses on Bruce Banner’s struggles internally as he wrestles with his other half and whether or not he even wants to lead such a life. As an audience, it is easy to connect with Bruce Banner and understand his characters struggles. This is what’s most important for a film and its main character.

If one has the ability to understand and connect with the main characters struggles on a humane level, it sets up perfectly for that character to be developed and for an audience to fall in love with the character.

Iron Man takes a similar approach, as Tony Stark is trapped in a cave faced with the daunting task of escaping. The process is an introspective one, one that invites the audience to become one with the character and learn about them. This is essentially the function of the character that accompanies Stark. He is someone whom the film uses to break open the persona of Tony Stark and reveal it to people.

Iron Man 2 is set up a bit differently; as its goal is to develop pre- existing characters all while introducing new ones. Director John Favreau does this in a masterful manner, as he balances the two most important aspects of a comic book film. The degree to which the audience can relate to the main character as a human being is one aspect. The other is the ability to portray the Marvel universe for what it is, while not scaring off the average viewer. Without this, the film will only capture the hearts of a small cult following.

Iron Man and Iron Man 2 showed audiences that The Marvel Universe has the potential to be vast and that the on goings of the film are only a small part of a bigger picture. This captures every type of audience, comic book fan and regular family alike.

All this being said, the ability for an audience to connect with a character will always be greater in an origin story, hence the phrase “the original is always better than the sequel”.

There lies the issue with The Avengers movie.

It does not have this luxury one bit.

The full scale Marvel Universe has will be revealed revealed and the cast (meaning confirmed and rumored) is a testament to that.

Once the monster in the scary movie has been revealed,It’s not scary.

It never is.

One is always most afraid prior to seeing the monster, because of how abstract it is.

The Marvel Universe goes from abstract to concrete quite quickly when an “Avengers” movie is made. Without an origin story to welcome audiences, the one speck of glue left which could prevent the film from becoming an on screen adaptation of Power Rangers is gone.

Audiences no longer feel like they are among these characters (aka being unrealistic and far-fetached). The contents of the film are now too fantastic much for people to believe.

When one sees the Thor Hammer or the Super- Soldier Serum in Iron Man and The Hulk, they get excited because it hints at the presence of other characters, much like footprints in the mud hint at the presence of a monster in a horror film.

Right now, Marvel studios is coasting along and their “monster” has captured audiences around the world.

But no one has seen it yet.

When they do. Marvel just may regret ever letting that monster out.

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McLovin
McLovin - 6/5/2010, 12:34 AM
Interesting point. So you're suggesting that the prospect of seeing all of these characters, may actually be better than the actual achievement of seeing them in the movie?

Allow me to elaborate, if I may be so bold. You're saying it's like fantasizing about [frick]ing the girl next door, and doing so for several years. Now during the course of those many years, your fantasies have become more and more imaginative, perverse and quite wild! So much so that, if indeed you actually got to sleep with her, there is no possible way that any sexual encounter could possibly live up to experience?

LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/5/2010, 5:56 AM
I have a handful of issuses with IRON MAN 2 as for THE AVENGERS, it'll be perfect if they recast SLJ! : P
1chris2
1chris2 - 6/5/2010, 6:17 AM
i think leader should be the villain useing abomination,and hulk to battle the avengers,and creating ultron to battle as well. i also thin that winter soldier should appear,and loki useing absorbing man to get to his brother thor would be cool. the skrull battle is to soon,but i would love to see that for the sequel.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/5/2010, 7:47 AM
@ 1chris2

dude, thats way too many villains/characters for one movie.
TheBoyBlunder
TheBoyBlunder - 6/5/2010, 8:09 AM
@mclovin

I cant respond to your analogy, but what im saying is that after all the buildup of seeing all of these characters on screen, it could very well turn out to be stupid.

Just picture in your head right now RDJ, Evans, and Hemsworth all sitting around in their respective outfits talking to one another. The thought of it is pretty stupid.

Now.

I WANNA see this. Just like I wanna sleep with the girl next door, and though seeing this movie as a comic book fan will be satisfying, as will sleeping with that girl, there is a chance that its just not as good as I imagined.

See my point?
claybo4131
claybo4131 - 6/5/2010, 12:17 PM
I agree with @mclovins analogy, and I think this was a poorly written article IMO

@anil I agree too, they can all act, I dont get what his worry is about this film. Its still 699 days away, be patient and let Marvel do their thing. They know they cant screw this up and they know they are taking a risk.
TheBoyBlunder
TheBoyBlunder - 6/5/2010, 12:17 PM
I didnt say that them merely being together would be stupid. But dressed up like superheros yeah the image of it is stupid. If you could read you would have seen that I mentioned that it was them in their outfits that seems stupid. Not just them.
claybo4131
claybo4131 - 6/5/2010, 12:25 PM
Avengers not in their costumes, ok well how are they suppose to fight off Loki?

You failed to mention Loki IS one of the villians in The Avengers, that is confirmed, Tom Hiddleston has confirmed it.
claybo4131
claybo4131 - 6/5/2010, 6:00 PM
Cant see them in costumes, then what is a superhero without a costume, and why are you on this site, just go away, a non comic fan doesnt come to sites like this, what did you think it was going to be REAL, cmon its a MOVIE, we know the COMICS arent real, geez can we get this article off of here please
Kyos
Kyos - 6/5/2010, 6:05 PM
@McLovin: :D
McLovin
McLovin - 6/5/2010, 9:42 PM
I actually thought this would have been deleted by now ...

@ Anil - I agree with everything you said in your 1st statement. If they were simply having a chat in full costume, then sure, FAIL!! But given the right script, direction, special effects and character portrayal, this movie will be the MOTHER OF ALL CBMs!!!!!!!

@ claybo4131 - for real? They confirmed Loki in Avengers? SWEEEEEEEET!!! CHIKA,CHIKA, YEAH!!! LOKI IN DA HIZSOUSE!!!!

@ TheBoyBlunder - Dude, you're over thinking this too much. It is better to regret fcuking her than not fcuking her. Just by a 12 pack of beer, a few packs of condoms, some lube, a pocket rocket, pop the viagra about 30 mins prior and give it hell!!! Worse comes to worse call a couple of your friends and have them on stand by. Cause it ain't no fun, if the homies can't have none ;-)

But seriously, how can you not give this movie a fair shot before Thor and Cap even come out? Don't be so negative dude.

AverageCitizen99
AverageCitizen99 - 6/5/2010, 9:46 PM
I think, like teabag said, that whether they have seen the other films or not they will still get that same connection even if it is more than one character. The audience can still feel something for these characters if they are given the right amount of screen time.
contrast
contrast - 6/6/2010, 2:34 AM
In my opinion, your argument, while good, folds in on itself...because I view The Avengers as exactly what you do not; an origin story. True, it isn't the origin of Captain America, or Thor, or Iron-Man, or The Hulk...but it is the origin of the team.

Furthermore, it's almost 100% certain that the team won't be just Cap, Tony, Thor, and (possibly) Hulk; We've also got possible teammates like Hawkeye, Antman, Wasp, Mar-Vell, and Ms. Marvel...characters who have not yet been introduced, and in all likelihood, won't be until The Avengers. So even if you don't want to look at it as the origin of the team, you also have at least one origin story for a new supporting cast member such as one of the abovementioned characters.
claybo4131
claybo4131 - 6/6/2010, 7:15 AM
@contrast Very True, there are Characters that have yet been Introduced. And Jerremy Renner said many months back that he did see the Hawkeye outfit design, and he doesnt have a mask, he said it was something like Sunglasses (If anyone can find that for me that will be cool)

@Mclovin Yes Tom Hiddleston said in an interview Loki will be in it, it was already a done deal before they shot Thor, I beleive it is also on the Marvel website.

McLovin
McLovin - 6/6/2010, 9:40 AM
@ claybo4131 - That's cool man. I was hoping to see Loki in the Avengers. I wonder who the other villains will be. I'm sure he can't be the only one, since he is prob the main villain in Thor.

Btw, I think the look they are going for Hawkeye is something like this:

contrast
contrast - 6/6/2010, 10:18 PM
Also, in what blue hell of a way was The Incredible Hulk an origin movie? I mean, all they did was quickly flash a few images at the beginning... and it was still a quality flick. It wasn't as well-recieved as Iron-Man, but still, that's probably due to everyone's general hatred of the Ang Lee Hulk, and the confusion as to whether this was a reboot or sequel...
SkylerMystwood
SkylerMystwood - 7/11/2010, 1:39 PM
I think Marvel has done a great job so far of finding the write writers and directors for each of their movies. Faverau captured the charm and comedy in Ironman, Brannaugh is a master with Shakespearean themes, and will no doubt bring that to Thor, and Joss Whedon has the knowledge of comics, and the masterful art of combining large, diverse casts with equal parts action and humor.

And I don't think the characters will sit around a table in their costumes, doing a lot of talking. I picture them more working and fighting together, exchanging comedic quips as they fight insanely epic battles. Nothing silly in my mind about that.
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